or maybe they finally found
the actress that played Heather and are now also including original VA for SH3
on 2nd thought,
no. They definitely need more time for downgrading lol
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Silent Hill HD Collection: New Screens/Video
- Thread starter Typographenia
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or maybe they finally found
on 2nd thought,
Backfoggen
Banned
More time to clean up the textures.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I think I'll just pick up some component cables and play these on my PS2. I can further simulate the full HD collection experience by doing horrible imitations of the trophy notification ping at random intervals.
Wishful thinking.
Wishful thinking.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Maybe they decided to swap James for a bald space marine and have Slipknot record a new theme song for SH2. Kids love that shit.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Maybe Silent Hill 3 is being reconstructed to better fit alongside the movie sequel coming soon to a theater near you.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Yes, but it seems to require more fog. The scene in the meat cooler looks nice, but there's too little fog.
As for SH3, I remember seeing footage of the light from Heather's flashlight being visible on her back. Hopefully that gets fixed if it hasn't already.
Backfoggen
Banned
Clean textures like the one on that street don't fit SH too well.
RadioHeadAche
Member
True, but based on what we've seen so far I wouldn't expect much from them.
How About No
Member
Delay? Maybe they found Heather Morris at the last minute and got her to sign on
"Would"?
"Would"?
RadioHeadAche
Member
I wonder if Konami is going to say anything about the delay considering the March 6th release date is in the recent trailer for the collection.
Typographenia
Member
How much was it pushed back, because it still shows march?
edit: Ah, two weeks. I doubt it's anything that significant. How much can they really accomplish in two weeks time? They have to be going gold before too much longer, if they haven't already.
nincompoop
Banned
But Silent Hill 3 still has better character models than like 90% of games that come out today.
D:
Oh God, please tell me that this is simply a failed attempt at creating character in CC or some fan mod. I refuse to believe that a Bethesda character designer saw this and said: "yeah, it's good; we can put this in the game!".
The truth is, the game still has better character models (and facial animations) than some of nowadays games, even some AAA titles.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
But Silent Hill 3 still has better character models than like 90% of games that come out today.
What the shit is that abortion in the second pic? Please tell me it's a borked, ugly mod and not something a developer actually put in a major game (looks like it's Oblivion or Skyrim?)
That character looks nothing like that.
EDIT:
Still looks like shit, albeit to a lesser degree. Wow, a 9 year old PS2 game actually has better character models than current gen games. Team Silent must've used some sort of black magic to wring that out of the PS2.
The only black magic they used were the ones named "talent" and "effort"
Of course it isn't fair to compare characters from a game that have four (living and fully human) characters to a one that has hundreds (or at least few dozens) characters.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Erm..Not trying to take credit away from Konami in the slightest but Bethesda has always been a generation or two behind when it comes to face technology.
They're running a street sweeper through the whole town. Gotta make sure all that unpleasant grime and debris is nowhere to be seen.
Maybe they'll make a nice well lit cement walkway on the path into town so it's not so scary.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I know it's the weekend, but it's interesting to note that neither Best Buy nor Gamestop have changed the release dates. Furthermore, the official Konami Silent Hill site still mentions March 6th as the release date, and no info about the release date change has been given on the Facebook page.
normalmode
Member
Just uploaded a 3 minute clip from SH2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd4kJUxAFjc
Be happy to take requests for a 3 minute portion of SH3, preferably something from the 1st-hour of gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd4kJUxAFjc
Be happy to take requests for a 3 minute portion of SH3, preferably something from the 1st-hour of gameplay.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
How about the part where Claudia and Heather first meet and the old man and Heather meeting?
Heather - Douglas conversation when they meet up for the first time would be fine.
I think everyone are curious how new voices sound and match facial animation.
How About No
Member
I can't be the only one thinks the theme songs should be played on that menu. Seems ill-fitting :/
plagiarize
Banned
what the fuck is with that SH2 title screen? eurgh. the collection screen is fine, but... damn.
Appreciated!
Just upload the Waking up at Happy Burger + Douglas / Heather introduction in the beginning of the game. Graphical effects, voices and facial animations are probably the biggest wishes.
kunonabi
Member
yeah the beginning for SH3 would work. Especially Heather talking with her dad on the phone. The voicework, writing, and facial animations were fantastic in the original game. If they botch that I know the rest of the game probably won't work. Not that I'm buying it but I want to see if they at least made an effort.
What are you talking about? It's the same as the PS2 version.
It's exactly the same as the PS2 version.
Oh, come the fuck on, it's basically the same. It was simply redrawn at a higher resolution.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I don't know about the PS2 version (I have it, but I've never played it), but in the PC version there were footsteps when opening doors from what I can remember.
Yeah, it seems about the same to me...which is a disappointment. I was really hoping they would reduce or eliminate the loading between doors.
That plus the fact that they're using hard shadows like the PC version make for a pretty bad port. I suspect the fog is also lacking just like the PC port.
Yeah the loading times are horrendous. The PS2 version only takes "long" when entering whole levels, e.g. the entrance to the apartments, but entering rooms or parts of whole levels were relatively quick.
Check the first page. PC version *has* fog.
Check the first page. PC version *has* fog.
badcrumble
Member
Urgh. Not only do I think I'll wait and see what full reviews and GAF reactions are like, I'm also going to have to wait and see if there's a downloadable version of these that has better load times.
Solid warrior
Banned
but the PC has a 'toned down' fog, unlike the console version. I don't think it's a problem anyway.
There were footsteps, but loadings were much shorter; I don't remember ever seeing footsteps making it to the top left corner of the screen.
BTW. while we're talking about PC - PS2 differences, it always bothered me: was the in-game cut-scene with James meeting Eddie in prison cafeteria also that bright in the PS2 version, or was it just fucked up in PC release? In the CGI cut-scene (the "killing a person ain't no big deal" one) the whole scene is dark and James' flashlight is the only source of light; the in-game cut-scene, where the dialouge is continued, is bright, as if all lights in the room were turned on.
The same goes with the scene where James finds Angela lying on the floor. The CGI scene has this dark bluish tint while the in-game cut-scene has normal lighting.
Was the lighting messed up in PC version or did the team just changed their mind when it comes to lighting but didn't feel the need to update CGI scenes?
I don't mean to sound dramatic, but they should just fucking cancel this game. This collection could have been an amazing restoration of two of the best horror games ever made, but instead it has been botched in so many areas that it borders on travesty.
Who is this going to sell to? HD Collections typically target hardcore fans of the series, but we've all made it very clear that we won't support this abomination.
I've tried to keep a level head for a while about this collection, but I've hit my breaking point.
Who is this going to sell to? HD Collections typically target hardcore fans of the series, but we've all made it very clear that we won't support this abomination.
I've tried to keep a level head for a while about this collection, but I've hit my breaking point.
PC version does have fog, I never suggested otherwise.
The fog present, however, is much less dense than it is on PS2. Both the XBOX and PC versions suffer from this. There are fewer fog particles and their animations are less complex. It is most obvious when you exit the cemetery. Swing the camera around and look out into the background on both versions and you'll see the massive difference.
kunonabi
Member
Sadly the majority of the Silent Hill fanbase laps up anything with the Silent Hill name on it. Everything has been garbage post SH3 but that hasn't stopped them from buying every release although I must admit it took 4 awful games before I decided to stop buying SH games.. The fact that anybody can honestly try and defend SH4 is insane. I was appalled as what was by how much fan fiction they try and pass off as canon, Mary being a patient at Brookhaven for example, but their inability to look at the series in any objective fashion completely turned off the fanbase.
Typographenia
Member
I would almost bet you anything that they left the loading screen/time in there purely for aesthetic reasons. Can you imagine the outrage that would have occurred if the footsteps were gone because it loaded too fast?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But Silent Hill 3 still has better character models than like 90% of games that come out today.
Doesn't Silent Hill 3 have like, four characters?
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
If these games were in the same generation, that claim would have held more weight.
Really, Typographenia? You really think they on purpose let the loading times be longer than the PS2 version? You know, it is possible to have the loading screen *and* not have it be noticeable/significant loading time. Just look at the PS2 version. The scenario is not like either you *don't have the loading screen* or you have long loading times. There is a golden mean.
RadioHeadAche
Member
That video doesn't look too bad, and the load times don't seem any different than those found on the PS2. I feel that they should have chosen more ambient tracks for the title screen, or just used silence. It just seems too loud and contrasts a bit with the eerie layout of the selection screen.
I'd love to see some of Silent Hill 3. Preferably a mix of cutscene and gameplay similar to that SH2 clip. Hopefully, they fixed the light orb on Heather's back.
Also, has there been any word as to why this got delayed again?
I'd love to see some of Silent Hill 3. Preferably a mix of cutscene and gameplay similar to that SH2 clip. Hopefully, they fixed the light orb on Heather's back.
Also, has there been any word as to why this got delayed again?
Amazon says it was pushed to the 20th. Nobody is really sure as far as I can tell though.
Thread title "What a nightmare."