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Skyward Sword new media depot [Latest: Lyre Trailer] [Spoilers may vary]
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EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Crunched said:
I completely disagree. Twilight Princess was ripe with amazing climaxes and dense areas, but almost all of these were towns and dungeons. The rest of the overworld was stretched far too thinly, in my opinion.
JimboJones said:
Right, and all the travel mechanics have been solved in Skyward Sword.
The Hermit
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BY2K said:
And there goes my blackout about SS info...
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!
BlazingDarkness
Member
The story bits looks promising but I'm not sold on the gameplay/exploration stuff yet
Think I've been spoiled by Xenoblade
Think I've been spoiled by Xenoblade
milkyjay20
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yeah, i'm weak, no willpower, looks beautiful. especially that two seconds where you see a lot of greenery and a crazy draw-distance.
no way, but tp zelda is still the hottest.
Mik2121 said:
no way, but tp zelda is still the hottest.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Majora's Mask overworld was quite wonderful, detailed and filled with stuff you could do, even depending on the time of day sometimes (ie: certain characters would be out and about, different enemies, etc). It felt "larger" and better than Ocarina of Time's overworld just because of the stuff available to you... At least, that's what I think anyway.CrazyDude said:
toastyToast
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OH FUCK
Dark Souls then this. Oh my Gawd
Dark Souls then this. Oh my Gawd
I guess we can agree on this.EatChildren said:
They've been solved in Phantom Hourglass already so I don't see what they could have done to make it worse anyway.EatChildren said:
ST only streamlined it further.
Still it's still a cop out to not have to make a decent secret filled overworld on the scale they should provide.
I mean really it's not something someone who played all Zelda expect when you tell him the next Zelda has an overworld.
I don't know how you can disagree that TP has more overworld content than WW. I agree that it could have had more for the size of it, but it wasn't simply empty. Out of curiosity, when was the last time you played both games?EatChildren said:
WW has like one point of interest per square, but most of them are single rooms. It all felt unfinished to me.
blackpensnowbird
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is that music in the combat tutorial new? sounds really good.
another thing you guys, watching that new trailer from the website it is only logical that i have come to the conclusion that this game will have the best animation we've seen yet i mean just look at that girl (fina?) dancing on the water, it's amazingly well done.
edit: can someone who's good at making gifs make one of fina dancing across the water?
another thing you guys, watching that new trailer from the website it is only logical that i have come to the conclusion that this game will have the best animation we've seen yet i mean just look at that girl (fina?) dancing on the water, it's amazingly well done.
edit: can someone who's good at making gifs make one of fina dancing across the water?
Glass Rebel
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Yeah, this will be awesome and my GOTY. Just when I thought Zelda held no more power over me I'm being pulled back.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
So the twist in this game is that Ganondorf is flamboyantly gay?markot said:
Thats definitely ganondorf >_<!
pfft, there was exactly one island per square of the overworld with a fish to provide the map of the island on each square.Man God said:
There's a grand total of 3 towns (I'd argue 2.5 myself) with very little to do inside.
the major optional sidequest was the photograph thingy that was an annoyance more than anything.
If Tp's overworld was a barren desert with a hole to get to the cave of Ordeal it would have provided a more compelling overworld already.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Mael said:
I don't really know what to say. I don't equate 'overworld' to 'connected terrain'. I was happy to see them try something new with Wind Waker, to varying degrees of success, and I'm happy to see them trying something fresh with Skyward Sword. I don't need Zelda to have a terrain based overworld.
If you're disappointed because that's where your taste directs, fine, but calling it a 'cop-out' as if it were a promise or expectation is fresh.
Crunched said:
I played through Wind Waker a few months ago, and I'm playing through Twilight Princess again right now (see: shots in the Dolphin thread, and other SS thread). Wind Waker's overworld was far from perfect. I don't mean to give the impression that it was rich with content and stuff to do. Just that Twilight Princess was just as bad on every single front.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
michaeltraps
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This game looks incredible - the art style, there are no words.
I, for one, am happy with the WW take on the overworld - traversing the fields in TP were the more tedious parts of that game. I remember the sense of adventure I'd feel in WW when seeing a small island in the distance and watching it get larger and larger as I approached. Haters be damned.
I, for one, am happy with the WW take on the overworld - traversing the fields in TP were the more tedious parts of that game. I remember the sense of adventure I'd feel in WW when seeing a small island in the distance and watching it get larger and larger as I approached. Haters be damned.
Mael said:
Damn, why do people want things so normal and cliche?
Its fantasy. Its a game, it has levels.
Who cares about some traditional over-world concept?
The sky is the over-world if you want to see it that way.
As a matter of fact, even our own Earth is mostly not traversable.
Its not like you can walk to Australia from Japan.
We live our own lives in pockets,
and use some form of transportation to go from one pocket to another.
EatChildren said:
My point is that it's actually not fresh at all, it also depends on how it goes as well.
I mean they basically presented the game as you're on a ground above Hyrule and you fly to get to Hyrule.
the point is that you get a new transportation to get to Hyrule.
I mean Hyrule is the important part, we're meant to explore that place and that's the interesting part of the whole thing.
The rest is fine and all but there's a reason the game takes place in Hyrule and not fairy tale land #9843. If we don't get to see that place just for some BS reason like the flood in WW (which meant that you got teased for a much better game in the last 50min of the game) it's a cop out.
Link's Awakening is a much better game than Spirit Track if only because there's actually a place to explore in that game.
I mean, the way anyone would imagine a Zelda game where you fly to get where you want to go would be more :
you have the giant ass world below ala Zelda 2 or something
you can jump in and out of the overworld to get to another place much quicker.
It doesn't mean you're in Lake Hylia and can't reach Death Mountain on foot because the 2 areas are not connected.
MDX said:
Yeah but I can go from Vladivostoc to Johanesbourg on foot.
Discussion here is awesome, if I don't like shit I'm not allowed to discuss anything!BurntPork said:
Must I like Other M too or am I allowed to hate that PoS?
JimboJones
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EatChildren said:
Cool beans, I wasn't complaining about Skyward Sword I don't know much about it and hope to keep it that way until release, but good to people confident that traveling won't suck.
ThatObviousUser
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The_Technomancer said:
That's a twist? He had a whole race of women throwing themselves at him and all he did was shun them.
brotkasten
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Yeah, can't wait to play it in HD. I hope it runs well OOTB with WiiMotion+.CubeHands said:Having just seen the new trailers, the polish is really starting to show in some of those locales. On dolphin, this is going to look like a Wii U game
RPGCrazied
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WW was fine, except the fetch quest at the end. That was no fun. That and it was already said the game had dungeons cut.
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EatChildren said:
What about the "opening" trailer?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I absolutely do not agree with you in the slightest Mael, and hold nowhere near the specific attachment to Hyrule that you do. To put it bluntly, I'm glad Nintendo don't see eye-to-eye, as recycling and reusing Hyrule over and over is something I'm not interested in Nintendo doing.
But you're entitled to feel however you want to feel, so I'll leave it at that.
Couldn't find it unfortunately.
But you're entitled to feel however you want to feel, so I'll leave it at that.
Andrex said:
Couldn't find it unfortunately.
Majora's Mask had a pretty nice overworld, but that's mostly due to the rather small size. It's easier to design something interesting but small than to design something that is interesting and huge at the same time.Mael said:
Ocarina of Time's overworld was a nice achievement for its time, and it's certainly iconic, but I don't think the areas were really interesting at all.
I liked Wind Waker's overworld, but I always wished that it had some bigger "continents" between the small islands. I always thought that the exploration in the game was lacking (even though I liked the boat). However, from all that we know, we know for certain that Skyward Sword has more than just those "small islands". And we also know that the areas are filled with puzzles, which potentially makes them much more interesting to explore than the barren overworld of, say, OoT. I don't see a reason to discredit this, just because the areas aren't interconnected. Strikes me as a silly complain.
Franchuzas87
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Oh my.
Dwight Schrute
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EatChildren said:
Why does the sword trailer has the big HUD wiimote again ? it's an option?
EatChildren said:
I don't hold much attachment to Hyrule myself, my fav Zelda are either MM or LA...and you don't see Hyrule there anyway.
BUT in both games you have a rich overworld to explore.
I'm totally fine if the land in the cloud is full of stuffs and has more secrets in it than all other Zelda united.
the way they've made the games before lend me to believe that will not be the case however, I tend to see things by patterns so you can't really blame me on that part.
wrowa said:
I'd argue that's more due to 3D of the time limiting the scope of things that anything (I mean compare MM with the GBC zelda for example)
wrowa said:
A bit boring when you know how it works but still there's plenty of monsters to slay on any other places than Hyrule field while adult so I give it a pass.
I was reacting more to the "real overworld=land in the sky" which means that the rest is merely areas of interest disconnected. That also means that you can't actually choose the path you want to reach another place which is a bummer (if they're disconnected there's only 1 way : lake->sky->mountain).wrowa said:
Again I'm not writing it off, far from it.
I just see signs that it won't hold my interest as long as XB where the biggass environments are the primary reason why I'm even playing the game. It's really rare to see something like that these days, and that's a direction I wish they would take actually.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I understand.
Yes. There are three hud options, including 'Pro', which removes near everything.
JonStark said:
Yes. There are three hud options, including 'Pro', which removes near everything.
Dwight Schrute
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EatChildren said:
Awesome ! Thanks !
RPGCrazied
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I've never/ever had problems with my Wii. Sometimes the fan doesn't seem like its on, but then again the Wii doesn't get very hot, so.