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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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Father_Brain
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Man God said:
Not a surprise, obviously, but where was this confirmed?
For those interested in the Ness blurb, he's my best attempt at translating.
"Remember Ness?
Ness, the protagonist of Mother 2, who continually participates in the Smash Bros. series. He made an appearance as a hidden character in the first generation of Smash Bros. For him to make an appearance, how much hardship must we go through (now)? Incidentally, From a movie on the official Home Page, the throwing item "Mr. Saturn" is proven to continue to make an appearance."
So...there you have it. Nothing that points to a confirmation or not, as far as I'm concerned. Though, I'm sure that Famitsu probably knows better by now, considering they probably are playing the full version as we speak....lucky devils.
*looks to January 20th, 2007 with contempt*
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAY THE GAME SHIPPED! YOU'RE USELESS TO ME NOW!!!!
:lol
"Remember Ness?
Ness, the protagonist of Mother 2, who continually participates in the Smash Bros. series. He made an appearance as a hidden character in the first generation of Smash Bros. For him to make an appearance, how much hardship must we go through (now)? Incidentally, From a movie on the official Home Page, the throwing item "Mr. Saturn" is proven to continue to make an appearance."
So...there you have it. Nothing that points to a confirmation or not, as far as I'm concerned. Though, I'm sure that Famitsu probably knows better by now, considering they probably are playing the full version as we speak....lucky devils.
*looks to January 20th, 2007 with contempt*
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAY THE GAME SHIPPED! YOU'RE USELESS TO ME NOW!!!!
:lol
Oh, and I have no doubt that Jigglypuff will be returning.
You know, although it makes a lot of sense that Jigglypuff is THE most popular Pokemon in Japan (even above Pikachu, I hear), it completely threw me off guard -- in RGBY, I saw it as just a random cute Pokemon.
I do wonder why the anime Jigglypuff doesn't appear anymore, though.
You know, although it makes a lot of sense that Jigglypuff is THE most popular Pokemon in Japan (even above Pikachu, I hear), it completely threw me off guard -- in RGBY, I saw it as just a random cute Pokemon.
I do wonder why the anime Jigglypuff doesn't appear anymore, though.
Guys, probably very very stupid question, but all the characters shown so far, they're going to be available at the start? I thought we had to unlock the likes of Sonic and Snake?
I've heard that being thrown around the intarwebs, that Melee took 9 months to develop. I haven't found a source, tho. But assuming that's true, that would mean Brawl would be a fuckload bigger (understatement), considering the development time, and bigger team.
Zerodoppler said:
I've heard that being thrown around the intarwebs, that Melee took 9 months to develop. I haven't found a source, tho. But assuming that's true, that would mean Brawl would be a fuckload bigger (understatement), considering the development time, and bigger team.
Oblivion said:
As of right now, if we're to basically believe what a number of quotes have been stating, everyone besides Sonic and Snake are the only ones that we stand to need to unlock at the moment. We won't find out the truth until probably later, but we'll see.
9 months sounds feasible, considering what happened.
Most of what I heard was that Sakurai left DX/Melee's development towards the end, and with little else to do, it was all Iwata and crew could do, but to just keep chugging along, and then rush the game out for the GC's launch/Christmas.
So, I wouldn't at all be surprised...
SantaC
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holy shit, greatest melee fight ever!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lIcE_-tWv8
ShockingAlberto
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Most are pre-rendered, but it wouldn't be surprising if they used Kirby's in-game model for the cutscenes. There's not much else you can really do with him.fly high ~ayunite~ said:
There might also be a few in-game cutscenes here and there to save space. Hopefully Nintendo didn't go wacky with the compression in this game like they did in Galaxy (I thought my component cables were broken during the intro).
Holy Order Sol
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SantaC said:
Awesome, I had never seen it before.
One of my favorites : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-2-8Vx1lhM
MichaelEM3
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http://www.brawlcentral.com/
And sorry for posting this in the Dojo thread...junior status prevents me from making a new thread.
If we can get an official confirmation, this is big.My translator gave me a summary of that the image says. Here's what he had to say:
The top paragraph simply says that compared to Melee's 25 character roster, this time around Brawl will have 48 characters, nearly twice as much as Melee.
The next paragraph talks about Snake being included in the game and how it's sort of a crossover in fighting from a different series and not just Nintendo. But it mentions he was in a similar crossover fighting game a while ago called Dream Mix. Then it mentions Sonic and how he's also in a Nintendo/Mario game (Olympics). And Lucas is mentioned as he was going to be in Melee, but because the game didnt come out for the GBA in time, he wasn't in Melee.
We're not even sure if this image is real of fake, but that's what the text says. We're not even sure if this image is real of rake, but that's what the text says. Supposedly, this image is from Oita Godo-Shinbun, a Japanese newspaper.
And sorry for posting this in the Dojo thread...junior status prevents me from making a new thread.
layzie1989
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ahahaha tenshi you beat me by one minute :lol
48 characters. The 25 in Melee, minus the clones (roy, dr mario, pichu) makes 22. Add the newcomers we already know of (12) and you get 34. 14 more newcomers seems a little farfetched to me :\
48 characters. The 25 in Melee, minus the clones (roy, dr mario, pichu) makes 22. Add the newcomers we already know of (12) and you get 34. 14 more newcomers seems a little farfetched to me :\
crowphoenix
Banned
MrCheez said:
True, but a roster in the 20's seems to low, as that would mean we've known a good chunck of the unlocakable characters for a while now.
Rancid Mildew
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48? I thought 35 would be the realistic limit but I guess Sakurai wanted to satisfy fans in every way possible.
I hope this is true. There is no possible way for Isaac to be passed over in a roster that huge.
I hope this is true. There is no possible way for Isaac to be passed over in a roster that huge.
layzie1989
Member
At this point I assume wind waker Link is 100% in this game. He's become a staple to the Zelda series.
MichaelEM3
Banned
I was expecting 35, too, myself. This is fucking incredible if true.
Now, there's always a chance it's really 44 characters and that it counts Sheik, Zero Suit Samus (assuming she'll only be accessible through the Final Smash), and the individual Pokemon of the Pokemon Trainer.
But still....at least 44 characters on the character selection screen....amazing.
Sakurai = God.
Now, there's always a chance it's really 44 characters and that it counts Sheik, Zero Suit Samus (assuming she'll only be accessible through the Final Smash), and the individual Pokemon of the Pokemon Trainer.
But still....at least 44 characters on the character selection screen....amazing.
Sakurai = God.
layzie1989
Member
TenshiOni said:
I think that it's really 48 selections. In melee zelda and sheik were counted as one in the character selection screen, so I would assume it's the same for sheik, zamus, and the pokemon trainer.
crowphoenix
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Naw, until I see it on the Dojo, I'll treat it as a rumor. A nice, tempting rumor, but a rumor.
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48 characters?
That sounds just a little too good to be true.
Then again, so did the Subspace Emissary, Sonic, and the Stage Builder.
So I wouldn't put it past Sakurai.
That sounds just a little too good to be true.
Then again, so did the Subspace Emissary, Sonic, and the Stage Builder.
So I wouldn't put it past Sakurai.
Rancid Mildew
Banned
Nevermind my excitement. That article looks like it was done on a word processor.
I bet this is fake:
A. No-one has actually seen the newspaper
B. This was supposedly yesterday's newspaper -- wouldn't the news have been reported MUCH earlier if that was the case?
C. The scan looks like it was typed out on Word and printed on A4. Look at all the WHITE SPACE
D. Isn't the text supposed to be vertical?
A. No-one has actually seen the newspaper
B. This was supposedly yesterday's newspaper -- wouldn't the news have been reported MUCH earlier if that was the case?
C. The scan looks like it was typed out on Word and printed on A4. Look at all the WHITE SPACE
D. Isn't the text supposed to be vertical?
The 9 months figure was from Rogue Squadron III. With Super Smash Bros. Melee being one if not the premiere Sysdolphin games, at least some of the technology for the game was being developed maybe even before EAD's.
Also remember Smash Bros was fully playable with completed stages in May 2001 and released in December. There is no way they developed the E3 demo in 2-3 months.
Damn, I just wrote out huge post about character predictions, but it just got erased. I'll try again.
Anyway, based on Famitsu's projected 240 hours to complete single player with all characters, two logical character numbers are 30 and 40:
30 characters = 8 hours per playthrough
40 characters = 6 hours per playthrough
These are the simplest calculations based on the 240 number which is why I'm pointing them out first.
I'm trying to have realistic expectations for this game. The increase in characters from the original to Melee was huge, but the hardware jump from GCN to Wii is nowhere near as great, which is why I'm being more conservative in predicting about 30 playable characters. Another factor which lowers this number is that i believe Sakurai wanted to do away with clones for the most part.
Another thing, a lot of you are predicting a ton more newcomers to be announced, maybe as many as 10+ more. This would be great, but many of you are forgetting that we've already had 11, 12 if you count ZSS newcomers announced. That's already a pretty big number. As I said, I'm trying to be realistic here and not set myself up for disappointment. If Sakurai completely blows it out of the park with 35+ or even 40, that'd be absolutely insane, but I'm not expecting this at all. With all the stuff he's already crammed into this game, I'm thinking around 30 is more realistic. Then again, Sakurai's surprised us before, so who's to say he won't again.
After doing some calculations, some other possible character numbers are:
32 characters = 7.5 hrs per playthough
34 characters = roughly 7 hours per playthough
37 characters = roughly 6.5 hours per playthrough
So far 23 playable characters have been announced (ZSS and Sheik not counted).
IMO, these characters are pretty much guaranteed:
-Capt Falcon
-Ganondorf
-Luigi
-2 more Pokemon
Here are the "maybe"s
-Falco
-Young Link (cel-shaded or not)
-Another Pokemon
-Mr. Game and Watch
-Another Fire Emblem character
Looking at these, the minimum, not including more newcomers would be 28. So my bet would be 28 plus around 4 or so newcomers.
It really also depends on whether Sakurai is commited to bringing back everyone's favorites, or whether he just wants to do away with clones (Dr. Mario, Falco, Pichu, Fire Emblem, etc.)
If he brings back a good number of them, then we'll see 32ish characters with a few more newcomers, or around 35/36.
Anyway, if you didn't bother reading this, I don't care, I just thought I'd put in my two cents before the game was released. Just my predictions. Sorry for the long ass post.
Summary: My prediction 30-35 characters
Anyway, based on Famitsu's projected 240 hours to complete single player with all characters, two logical character numbers are 30 and 40:
30 characters = 8 hours per playthrough
40 characters = 6 hours per playthrough
These are the simplest calculations based on the 240 number which is why I'm pointing them out first.
I'm trying to have realistic expectations for this game. The increase in characters from the original to Melee was huge, but the hardware jump from GCN to Wii is nowhere near as great, which is why I'm being more conservative in predicting about 30 playable characters. Another factor which lowers this number is that i believe Sakurai wanted to do away with clones for the most part.
Another thing, a lot of you are predicting a ton more newcomers to be announced, maybe as many as 10+ more. This would be great, but many of you are forgetting that we've already had 11, 12 if you count ZSS newcomers announced. That's already a pretty big number. As I said, I'm trying to be realistic here and not set myself up for disappointment. If Sakurai completely blows it out of the park with 35+ or even 40, that'd be absolutely insane, but I'm not expecting this at all. With all the stuff he's already crammed into this game, I'm thinking around 30 is more realistic. Then again, Sakurai's surprised us before, so who's to say he won't again.
After doing some calculations, some other possible character numbers are:
32 characters = 7.5 hrs per playthough
34 characters = roughly 7 hours per playthough
37 characters = roughly 6.5 hours per playthrough
So far 23 playable characters have been announced (ZSS and Sheik not counted).
IMO, these characters are pretty much guaranteed:
-Capt Falcon
-Ganondorf
-Luigi
-2 more Pokemon
Here are the "maybe"s
-Falco
-Young Link (cel-shaded or not)
-Another Pokemon
-Mr. Game and Watch
-Another Fire Emblem character
Looking at these, the minimum, not including more newcomers would be 28. So my bet would be 28 plus around 4 or so newcomers.
It really also depends on whether Sakurai is commited to bringing back everyone's favorites, or whether he just wants to do away with clones (Dr. Mario, Falco, Pichu, Fire Emblem, etc.)
If he brings back a good number of them, then we'll see 32ish characters with a few more newcomers, or around 35/36.
Anyway, if you didn't bother reading this, I don't care, I just thought I'd put in my two cents before the game was released. Just my predictions. Sorry for the long ass post.
Summary: My prediction 30-35 characters
ratcliffja
Member
I'm skeptical, but 48 does divide into 240 evenly, leaving an estimate of 5 hours for an SSE play through.
First of all, can someone please give me a reliable website in which the 240 hours thing is confirmed? All I remember about it is some random ruliweb page which is as reliable as a wordpress blog, as far as I know.
Second, 48 characters is extremely unlikely, and I'm skeptical until I see a full picture of this newspaper and confirmation of someone having actually read it.
Second, 48 characters is extremely unlikely, and I'm skeptical until I see a full picture of this newspaper and confirmation of someone having actually read it.
How is this 240 hour thing worded? Cause there's no way you can sensibly divide it up between characters. Remember, SSE you don't choose a character then go through the whole scenario with that character. It's entirely story based, and each character has their own part in the story. It starts with the Mario/Kirby fight, and depending on which one of them you choose, and which princess you rescue, sets you on your path. You don't use an individual character to go through the story. Sakurai even did a Dojo update saying you'd have a team of the characters you'd picked up, and you choose one before starting a stage, and if they die, another member of the team takes their place. That does not make it seem like SSE is set up for individual run-throughs with a single character like Adventure mode was in SSBM.
Ok, I think I just discovered undeniable proof as to why this supposed article is fake. Go to wikipedia's Brawl article. Now go the japanese' version of the article. Check out the last two paragraphs:
Familiar? If I'm not mistaken, those are the last paragraphs of the so-called article. Unless the journalist published a shameless copy-paste just after giving away huge spoilers, that is :lol
Familiar? If I'm not mistaken, those are the last paragraphs of the so-called article. Unless the journalist published a shameless copy-paste just after giving away huge spoilers, that is :lol
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
SantaC said:
This should be watched by everyone. Fucking amazing.
Wow. That was amazing DI. 150% wow.
Although best match ever that I've linked 2 or 3 times to in this thread already:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8909279764024261011
Although best match ever that I've linked 2 or 3 times to in this thread already:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8909279764024261011
AlternativeUlster said:
Yeah that fight is amazing. So is that Aniki Link fight. Heck all of Aniki's Link fights. Has anyone given thought to the possibility that blizzard would have attempted to get a starcraft character into brawl? Is there some reason that wouldn't happen?
Justin Timberlake
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Crushed said:
Competitive smashers are awesome. Some of the coolest guys I have ever met. Not very photogenic though.
Damn. Wrong tab.
I will save it by saying "Crushed, wait for stream and fast forward you r-tard"
I'll also use this opportunity to say SAKURAI GIVE US A CREW BATTLE MODE PLEASE LOVE YOU MUCH K THNX
Edit: Wait a sec, this was the right tab. Sort of. MarkMan hi. Young Link? Hi.
I will save it by saying "Crushed, wait for stream and fast forward you r-tard"
I'll also use this opportunity to say SAKURAI GIVE US A CREW BATTLE MODE PLEASE LOVE YOU MUCH K THNX
Edit: Wait a sec, this was the right tab. Sort of. MarkMan hi. Young Link? Hi.
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