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[crowphoenix]

There has got to be some explanation for why Sonic games keep selling.

Because we are stupid and secretly hate ourselves?

Edit: I know that's true for me.

 

[Somnid]

Sonic... fans?

It's one of the biggest furry groups on the net. Also, check out the sheer amount of crap you can dig up about Sonic and his shitty friends on Wikipedia.

 

[Darkpen]

:lol Yeah I did. At least if I had to be so thoroughly owned, it got to be from someone as rad as Sakurai. Whoever said that it seems like Sakurai reads GAF is right O_O

Pretty unlucky that the ONE NIGHT I decide to get into heavy discussion about how Snake wouldn't be shown is the same freakin' night it happens. Grrr

Oh well... I wonder what this means at this point:

1) Snake is a starter character,
or 2) Sakurai doesn't mind showing unlockable content on the site before the games release,
or 3) Number 2 is in effect ONLY for Snake because he's a special case (since Sakurai and Kojima are buddy buddys)
or 4) Nothing is possible to predict anymore, just stop trying!

I think you guys are over thinking it. He's either A) available from start, or B) the first or third unlockable.

 

[Darkpen]

I'm really thinking it's just #4. Count me in the camp that was sure that Snake's profile wouldn't be mentioned on the site, and lo and behold, we get Snake, MGS music, and Snake's moves all in one day! :lol
Not that I'm complaining, since I can finally prove to some of my friends that, yes, he is still in the game and not cut for some weird reason.

Considering that Snake was shown at the MGS event in TGS earlier (with pictures online from Famitsu and other sources), it really wasn't a surprise to see the long-awaited MGS update.

 

[Starchasing]

How could Sonic not be in SSBB, when something like "Mario&Sonic at the Olympics exists?

 

[CreatureX3]

Is anybody else a little dissappointed that Nintendo isn't leveraging Snake's Smash Brothers appearance for a Metal Gear game on the Wii. When this generation is over, think about how many people will have played Smash Brothers. It's not a stretch to say that this could be the Wiis best selling game for the whole generation.

But meanwhile MGS4 is being billed as the PS3 killer app and it's being shown at TGS right now. And with Brawl Nintendo is actually advertising a Playstation exclusive property.

You should drop a line to nintendo and let them know that they could use your advice in matters of business.

:lol :lol :lol

MGS4 PS3 can only dream of getting the sales numbers that SSBB will pull in!

 

[traveler]

Holy crap at awesome update!

This is the first we've heard of that particular music, no? (Although it did sound sorta PotC-ish) Only problem is (and this is simply a HUGE pet peeve of mine) the MIDI. Gargh! I understand they won't ever do it in the game, but I hope we get an orchestrated version of the Brawl soundtrack at some point. (ala Smashing Live)

And WTF is up with the arguing over the Snake "deal?" This isn't a deal at all- Kojima admired Sakurai and his work on Smash Bros. and begged to have him to put in. It's due to a friendship, not a business arrangement. (And I seriously doubt either company will benefit noticeably more than the other.)

Edit: :lol :lol at the thread title.

 

[Yoboman]

Snake should have a man-cannon weapon

 

[EktorPR]

Holy crap at awesome update!

This is the first we've heard of that particular music, no? (Although it did sound sorta PotC-ish) Only problem is (and this is simply a HUGE pet peeve of mine) the MIDI. Gargh! I understand they won't ever do it in the game, but I hope we get an orchestrated version of the Brawl soundtrack at some point. (ala Smashing Live)

Are you sure it isn't orchestrated? That piece sounded very much orchestrated to me!

 

[Starchasing]

Holy crap at awesome update!

This is the first we've heard of that particular music, no? (Although it did sound sorta PotC-ish) Only problem is (and this is simply a HUGE pet peeve of mine) the MIDI. Gargh! I understand they won't ever do it in the game, but I hope we get an orchestrated version of the Brawl soundtrack at some point. (ala Smashing Live)

Wasnt the final music supposed to be orchestrated?

 

[traveler]

Are you sure it isn't orchestrated? That piece sounded very much orchestrated to me!

Yeah, I'm positive. Non-orchestrated music is my "uncanny valley."

Edit: Smash Bros. has never had an orchestrated soundtrack in-game, so I doubt it. (Aside from the main theme) There have been releases after the fact.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Kinda surprised there wasn't a separate thread made for Snake...considering all the other ones that were made.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

My guess is Sakurai doesn't consider third party characters as part of the "can't be shown on the site" thing. The main reason we didn't get Snake in screenshots on the site before was because it had to go through Konami first and it wasn't worth the hassle.

Konami showed Snake off at TGS yesterday, so it was the best opportunity to reveal them. Any other third party characters will probably be bullet points instead of secrets.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Kinda surprised there wasn't a separate thread made for Snake...considering all the other ones that were made.

There was. 2 years ago.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Yeah, I'm positive. Non-orchestrated music is my "uncanny valley."

Edit: Smash Bros. has never had an orchestrated soundtrack in-game, so I doubt it. (Aside from the main theme) There have been releases after the fact.

The standard in the game industry is to use MIDI for sampler tracks...when all the tracks are finalized and written up there's usually one large recording session with the orchestra done shortly before alpha.

I'd be very surprised if the in-game music is still MIDI from all the info we've heard so far.

 

[EktorPR]

Yeah, I'm positive. Non-orchestrated music is my "uncanny valley."

Edit: Smash Bros. has never had an orchestrated soundtrack in-game, so I doubt it. (Aside from the main theme) There have been releases after the fact.

But I thought the Poké Stadium theme in Melee was orchestrated!! That chorus couldn't have been "created", no sirre.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

There was. 2 years ago.

Didn't stop all the other silly separate update threads, just surprised considering the sheer amount of Snake fanboys around here is all.

 

[traveler]

The standard in the game industry is to use MIDI for sampler tracks...when all the tracks are finalized and written up there's usually one large recording session with the orchestra done shortly before alpha.

I'd be very surprised if the in-game music is still MIDI from all the info we've heard so far.

Yeah, but look at Melee, or Twilight Princess, or Corruption, etc. Hey, I'd be the happiest of all if it turned out to be true, but I don't think it will happen.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

But I thought the Poké Stadium theme in Melee was orchestrated!! That chorus couldn't have been "created", no sirre.

You can still sample a chorus effect in synth you know.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Sakurai originally said all in-game music will be orchestrated. Considering the budget they're pouring in to the music now, I don't think he or Nintendo will arbitrarily go "Yeah, fuck that, back to the MIDI keyboard for you."

 

[Somnid]

Yeah, but look at Melee, or Twilight Princess, or Corruption, etc. Hey, I'd be the happiest of all if it turned out to be true, but I don't think it will happen.

Melee did have a few orchestrated tracks, like both Kirby stages.

 

[EktorPR]

Melee did have a few orchestrated tracks, like both Kirby stages.

I know I wasn't insane!! Take that traveler!

 

[traveler]

Melee did have a few orchestrated tracks, like both Kirby stages.

I guess I was mistaken then. I remembered the main theme being orchestrated, but that was it.

Can someone find me a link to where Sakurai says the Brawl soundtrack will be orchestrated?

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Yeah, but look at Melee, or Twilight Princess, or Corruption, etc. Hey, I'd be the happiest of all if it turned out to be true, but I don't think it will happen.

I don't think any of those games stated that they were going to have a fully orchestrated in-game soundtrack, did they?

Did they explicitly say they would for Brawl, or was that just for Nobou's piece? That would seem a bit inconsistent if they just leave it at that one track...

 

[Starchasing]

The standard in the game industry is to use MIDI for sampler tracks...when all the tracks are finalized and written up there's usually one large recording session with the orchestra done shortly before alpha.

I'd be very surprised if the in-game music is still MIDI from all the info we've heard so far.

They all should record their orchestral music in Prague or in Romania or Latvia... very cheap i heard...

 

[Firestorm]

I woke up at 2 randomly, so turned on my laptop and saw 3 Snake updates thought "woah Sakuai random" and went to bed.

The legendary mercenary makes his miraculous Smash debut! This law-breaking news roared around the world.

He comes fully loaded with cool and showy weapons that only he could possess. Couple them with these different worlds, and it will clear a path to new horizons.

MGS4 Wii Port confirmed.

Funny how his music is from a PS3 game :lol

 

[traveler]

I don't think any of those games stated that they were going to have a fully orchestrated in-game soundtrack, did they?

Did they explicitly say they would for Brawl, or was that just for Nobou's piece? That would seem a bit inconsistent if they just leave it at that one track...

The main tracks have been orchestrated though. (and it looks like a few select others as well) That didn't stop the others from being MIDI though.

 

[koam]

This game needs a "Create-a-Character" mode... on top of Mii support (should it support Mis of course)

 

[Rancid Mildew]

I thought orchestration was an absolute certainty until that Pit's Descent video.

 

[Grecco]

Wow that Snake update is all sorts of awesome. I cant wait.

 

[Shig]

This game needs a "Create-a-Character" mode... on top of Mii support (should it support Mis of course)

No it doesn't. This game is about iconic video game characters.

 

[GotchaForce]

While the new MGS4 music is awesome I'll be forever sad Snake's theme isn't the MGS2 theme

 

[Akai]

While the new MGS4 music is awesome I'll be forever sad Snake's theme isn't the MGS2 theme

Two words: My Music...

 

[Shig]

Two words: My Music...

Seriously, people. Do try and keep up.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I guess I was mistaken then. I remembered the main theme being orchestrated, but that was it.

Can someone find me a link to where Sakurai says the Brawl soundtrack will be orchestrated?

I checked the website archives

...And as a special service to readers of this site, I can say that the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra.

 

[Haunted]

I'd like to see Alternate costumes and a confirmation of the Event mode, aside from that, I'm just along for the ride when new characters, stages and items are introduced from now on.

The game has already far exceeded my expectations in terms of sheer volume, content and fanservice.

:bow :bow Sakurai

No it doesn't. This game is about iconic video game characters.

.

That's why Miis will never be playable characters.

 

[traveler]

I checked the website archives

Friggin' awesome! Thanks!

 

[Oblivion]

I guess I was mistaken then. I remembered the main theme being orchestrated, but that was it.

Can someone find me a link to where Sakurai says the Brawl soundtrack will be orchestrated?

The main theme was created for us by none other than famed Final Fantasy composer, Nobuo Uematsu!

Additionally, opera singer Ken Nishikiori has also participated in this project on vocals.

...And as a special service to readers of this site, I can say that the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra.

It will be a deluxe chorus complete with lyrics in Latin.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122882


And I'm still pretty confident Sonic will be in the game considering 1) Mario and Sonic Olympics and 2) None of the other third party characters have been shown so far.


Edit: Goddamn it!

 

[SuperAngelo64]

So, I see Snake with his box.

And I remember earlier a long ass time ago, Sakurai said something about how Snake would definitely have his box in this game.

But since it doesnt really fit into any of his attacks.. it makes me wonder.

Will this game have custom stage entrances like Smash64? Maybe Snake's stage entrance is popping up from his box.

 

[WastingPenguins]

That's kind of ambiguous. I can't tell if he's just saying that the main theme will be orchestrated and someone translated that sentence poorly, or if he's saying that all the music will be orchestrated. The sentence right after that, "it will be complete with latin lyrics", makes me think maybe he's just referring to the main theme... who knows.

 

[Darkpen]

So, I see Snake with his box.

And I remember earlier a long ass time ago, Sakurai said something about how Snake would definitely have his box in this game.

But since it doesnt really fit into any of his attacks.. it makes me wonder.

Will this game have custom stage entrances like Smash64? Maybe Snake's stage entrance is popping up from his box.

maybe... maybe its a taunt.

or maybe... its an item?

Everyone in a cardboard box ftw?

I remember during an SSBM game with my friends, they were so involved with fighting each other, sometime during the fight, one of them called out "hey, wait a minute, where's <darkpen's real name>?" and it took them a while before they realized I had lifted a giant crate (I was pikachu, so I was squished), and hadn't moved at all :lol :lol

 

[Akai]

That's kind of ambiguous. I can't tell if he's just saying that the main theme will be orchestrated and someone translated that sentence poorly, or if he's saying that all the music will be orchestrated. The sentence right after that, "it will be complete with latin lyrics", makes me think maybe he's just referring to the main theme... who knows.

Ever since Sakurai announced the crapload of musicians working on the game, I always felt that complete orchestration had been compromised...Even more-so after the My Music update...But I'm a midi fan, so whatever...

 

[wind_steaker]

if Sonic is in the game, I hope you have to do some rediculous things to get him (like all the theorys about getting him in Melee) and that it is a complete secret.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

Ever since Sakurai announced the crapload of musicians working on the game, I always felt that complete orchestration had been compromised...Even more-so after the My Music update...But I'm a midi fan, so whatever...

Midis are alright, in fact sometimes I synth instruments. The only midi/synth instruments I can't stand are woodwinds (oboes, clarinets) Solo brass instruments (solo trumpet, and especially solo saxophone.) and the dreaded synth choirs (fake sounding 'ooo's and 'aaah's).

As long as they don't use those in abundance I'll be happy. But this is just an opinion thing!

 

[The Hermit]

I can totally see Snake´s Final Smash being Metal Gear Rex... it would be perfect!

 

[Iam Canadian]

I'm thinking that Snake's box might be his shield, like how Yoshi's shield is an egg.

 

[Darkpen]

I can totally see Snake´s Final Smash being Metal Gear Rex... it would be perfect!

...huh, that's something I haven't even bothered to think about.

What IS Snake's Final Smash?

For all we know, the screen could be flurried with porn mags, disabling opponents for a few seconds D: which would kinda suck once you got past the gimmick/humor.

I dunno...

....


....


calling in a fucking aerial strike

I'm thinking that Snake's box might be his shield, like how Yoshi's shield is an egg.

good point!

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I can totally see Snake´s Final Smash being Metal Gear Rex... it would be perfect!

no his final smash should be a boring poorly scripted melodramatic 25 minute cutscene that bores the other players to death!

pure genious

 

[rollingstart]

this was a pretty awesome update

aw, but no character intro confirmation.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

I dont think his final Smash will be a Metal Gear, Snake hates Metal Gears! plus, I don't remember him ever riding one, he fights them.

I COULD see a Metal Gear be an integral part of his stage though, that would make a lot more sense.