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[thefro]

best update ever

 

[rollingstart]

Playable Ridley.

Yeah, I went there.

playable Ridley would be awful anyway, much better suited as a boss character in adventure mode.

 

[Eteric Rice]

There has to be another Smash Bros.

He will return...

Someday...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

So that's where the cat comes from.

 

[miyuru]

I'm just trying to figure out how they will prevent it... Say the game knows when you're about to place the final tile that will fully enclose the stage and doesn't let you fill in the gap. (This would be a stage with one tiny hole, as you describe above).

Well, couldn't you put another floor a bit above the gap so that technically there is a still a gap, but no one will ever get knocked under there?

It will be interesting to see what limitations this has.

Yeah for sure. But you have to see the big picture - regardless of whether or not you could make such a stage, who really cares? I wouldn't play a stage where you can't win more than once. You'd have to play it in HP mode for it to be useful.

 

[Tim-E]

playable Ridley would be awful anyway, much better suited as a boss character in adventure mode.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks so. It blows my mind sometimes how many people think a playable Ridley would be a great idea.

 

[Kodiak]

Hey don't hate on forge, thread title! YOU CAN'T DROP TANKS ON MARIO, CAN YOU?

Thats what I thought.

 

[MrCheez]

Yeah for sure. But you have to see the big picture - regardless of whether or not you could make such a stage, who really cares? I wouldn't play a stage where you can't win more than once. You'd have to play it in HP mode for it to be useful.

Oh yeah, it's not a big deal at all either way. I'm just really curious about what this editor will and won't let you do. :lol

 

[MrNibbles]

(The editor will be this robust, but if Sakurai / someone working with him sees this, please make it happen!)

PONG STAGE IDEA:

Simply a PONG board/field.

You have a top and bottom, so you can only be killed by flying off to the sides.
The paddles on the left and right play a game of pong, (and actually keep score!).
If you fly to he side, you can be saved by crashing into one of the paddles.
Characters that can wall jump can jump off of the paddles.
You can be hit by the pong ball for MASSIVE DAMAGE (like Birdo's egg).
You can catch and throw the pong ball as well.


TETRIS STAGE IDEA:

A Tetris field.

You are in the well, so the only way to die is by being shot up and out.
As pieces fall (like tools in Game & Watch's stage, but only a few at a time), you can be hit by them.
The stage plays a game of Tetris which gets faster and faster (and then goes back to the starting speed after reaching level 9 or so).

As the stage builds higher and higher, you are easier to kill.
You can help clear lines by catching a Tetris piece, rotating with B, and droping it to place it.

You can throw the Tetris piece at other players as well.

If you clear lines your opponents will take damage.
If you get stuck in the field, smash the blocks to get out! If a piece crushes you, you take massive damage and fly up.

Imagine grabbing a line (I piece) and spiking it down the well to clear 4 lines, while also killing the poor sap who fell into the well.

And of course, the music!!

 

[HolyCheck]

This is fucking amazing.

There's only one thing that can top this - being able to make your Mii into a custom character. Or Viewtiful Joe as a secret character. Either or.

every time my soul dies a little.

I swear you all do this to me on purpose

 

[miyuru]

Oh yeah, it's not a big deal at all either way. I'm just really curious about what this editor will and won't let you do. :lol

:lol

 

[AndoCalrissian]

playable Ridley would be awful anyway, much better suited as a boss character in adventure mode.

FALSE

 

[Axalon]

In before people get off the update high and start speculating that xxx feature won't be in the stage editor and therefore is a letdown or that you can't script actions or something else.

 

[Golden Darkness]

Hmmmm... if this stuff is savable to SD cards...

Could this mean we could have online archives of fan made stages online run by fans?

This could skip the Friends code requirement.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

I fully expect this. I would be really surprised if Miis aren't playable

I'm now totally expecting Sakurai's blog building up to reveal this glorious moment. He will also announce that you can buy moves for your Mii with in-game coins or unlock them with some kind of custom adventure mode. Also, you can download Miis to fight against - like Shiggy, Reggie, Iwata, Sakurai or pretty much anyone who works at NCL, NOA or NOE.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

So Sakurai chose the second best song in Donkey Kong Country history for the game.

Bless the man.

 

[Dark Ninja]

am i the only one who thinks these spikes look like there from a Sonic level

 

[Iam Canadian]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks so. It blows my mind sometimes how many people think a playable Ridley would be a great idea.

Why wouldn't Ridley be a good playable character? Put aside the boss question. What makes Ridley unsuited for playability?

He's got a variety of attacks suitable for moves in this game. He's got claws, fire breath, his long prehensile tail, and his jaws, for instance. He could utilize the gliding mechanic with his wings. He would bring a needed villainous presence to the roster (seeing as neither Dedede or Meta Knight are really villains) and be a good heavyweight to boot.

 

[Linkup]

Guess I may have to turn WC24 back on.

 

[MindCollizion]

(The editor will be this robust, but if Sakurai / someone working with him sees this, please make it happen!)

PONG STAGE IDEA:

Simply a PONG board/field.

You have a top and bottom, so you can only be killed by flying off to the sides.
The paddles on the left and right play a game of pong, (and actually keep score!).
If you fly to he side, you can be saved by crashing into one of the paddles.
Characters that can wall jump can jump off of the paddles.
You can be hit by the pong ball for MASSIVE DAMAGE (like Birdo's egg).
You can catch and throw the pong ball as well.


TETRIS STAGE IDEA:

A Tetris field.

You are in the well, so the only way to die is by being shot up and out.
As pieces fall (like tools in Game & Watch's stage, but only a few at a time), you can be hit by them.
The stage plays a game of Tetris which gets faster and faster (and then goes back to the starting speed after reaching level 9 or so).

As the stage builds higher and higher, you are easier to kill.
You can help clear lines by catching a Tetris piece, rotating with B, and droping it to place it.

You can throw the Tetris piece at other players as well.

If you clear lines your opponents will take damage.
If you get stuck in the field, smash the blocks to get out! If a piece crushes you, you take massive damage and fly up.

Imagine grabbing a line (I piece) and spiking it down the well to clear 4 lines, while also killing the poor sap who fell into the well.

And of course, the music!!

Um, yeah you chose from pre-determined items and platforms you cant just go all out and create your own theme and background or anything...

 

[Xeke]

FALSE

Playable Ridley makes no sense at all.

Geno however...

 

[PkunkFury]

Hmmmm... if this stuff is savable to SD cards...

Could this mean we could have online archives of fan made stages online run by fans?

This could skip the Friends code requirement.

I don't see why not. Shouldn't be any different than what wiisave.com and such are doing

 

[Iam Canadian]

So Sakurai chose the second best song in Donkey Kong Country history for the game.

Bless the man.

What do you consider the best?

 

[Stormbringer]

Man, sharing stages online and trying them will be so fun. "Game of the Forever" indeed, as in "YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PUT THIS GAME DOWN...FOREVER".

 

[GamerSoul]

Judging by the first pic, there will also be tunnel like things to use to create stages. That would be a sweet theme for a stage.

 

[Hours Left]

So Sakurai chose the second best song in Donkey Kong Country history for the game.

Bless the man.

Is your first Aquatic Ambience? God, I love that song.

 

[AndoCalrissian]

Hmmmm... if this stuff is savable to SD cards...

Could this mean we could have online archives of fan made stages online run by fans?

This could skip the Friends code requirement.

I've never used SD cards with my Wii, how does it encode the files?

 

[Enk]

am i the only one who thinks these spikes look like there from a Sonic level

*spikey pic*

Or Mega Man.



(I'm never gonna let him die sp0rsk! NEVER!)

 

[ShockingAlberto]

What do you consider the best?

Gangplank Galleon

Ignore the actual video. I couldn't find one that matched to DKC in specific.

Also the video's pretty funny if you don't take it seriously.

 

[AndoCalrissian]

Playable Ridley makes no sense at all.

Geno however...

Playable Ridley makes a lot of sense, particularly given the addition of gliding to the game.

 

[Golden Darkness]

I don't see why not. Shouldn't be any different than what wiisave.com and such are doing

Only thing holding this idea back is probably the file size of the stages and how the data is stored and named. Could possibly make it tricky to manage fan stages outside of Smash.

 

[Suburban Cowboy]

guys, fox and captain falcon made less sense as playable characters in the first game than ridley does now. why is this so unacceptable?

 

[_Alkaline_]

Is your first Aquatic Ambience? God, I love that song.

Oh yeah.

I also loved the Mine music and Gangplank Galleon from DKC2.

The DKC series had some amazing music.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I hope that you can send stages directly to friends.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Gangplank Galleon

Ignore the actual video. I couldn't find one that matched to DKC in specific.

Also the video's pretty funny if you don't take it seriously.

Gangplank Galleon's pretty good...though I prefer Stickerbrush Symphony, Kannon's Klaim, and Aquatic Ambience.

 

[AndoCalrissian]

am i the only one who thinks these spikes look like there from a Sonic level

Good call. They do indeed.

 

[Tieno]

You guys should make a Running Out of Things To Complain About? SBB image macro.

 

[Lobster]

Just fucking blew my mind!

Will we be able to play these maps over Wi-fi though? Thats my only concern.

 

[Xeke]

It's gonna be Kannons Klaim

 

[MindCollizion]

I hope that you can send stages directly to friends.

um.... Did you read the actual update?

Also, if you’ve finished registering someone as both a Wii Friend and a Smash friend, you’ll be able to send custom stages to each other.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Only thing holding this idea back is probably the file size of the stages and how the data is stored and named. Could possibly make it tricky to manage fan stages outside of Smash.

Now, keep in mind that I am basically technologically illiterate...but is it possible that the level files will be nothing more than directions as to which assets from Brawl to load and where to put them, and not actually contain any in-game assets themselves?

 

[MrNibbles]

Addition of gliding?
What??

 

[Crocodile]

I said WOW! Followed by HOLY CRAP, amongst other words. *applauds Sakurai*

Knowing my self I'll probably end up making only one or two stages tops but I certainly look forward to playing on the stages of others. I just can't believe we are still more than 3 full months away and they still have megatons of this magnitude left to spare?!?!? Lord Almighty, I want to say "how can he top this?", but he's managed to do so each time. Fuck it, I'm going to say it! HOW CAN HE TOP THIS?!

*Waits for eventual update in which Sakurai tops the Stage Editor*

 

[GamerSoul]

Or Mega Man.



(I'm never gonna let him die sp0rsk! NEVER!)

nope, they look like Sonic's. If it were Megaman spikes Mario would be instantly obliterated.

 

[Eteric Rice]

Now, keep in mind that I am basically technologically illiterate...but is it possible that the level files will be nothing more than directions as to which assets from Brawl to load and where to put them, and not actually contain any in-game assets themselves?

That's quite possible, yes.

 

[Zerodoppler]

They should support the custom soundtrack feature if they want people playing the game forever.

 

[Dark Ninja]

It's gonna be Kannons Klaim

yeah thats frikkin awesome

I hope we get to choose to make the stage scroll up, down or sideways

 

[AndoCalrissian]

Addition of gliding?
What??

Some characters can glide. Read: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/technique05.html

 

[Jiggy]

-Today has brought us the 11th megaton, and also the 4th megaton of October--the others being co-op Subspace Emissary, the reveal of Sonic, and Replay saving. What an insanely great month for updates.

-For three Mondays running we've had a stage-related update.

-We've now escaped 30, count 'em, thirty days of updates--that's weekdays only, yes, no weekends--with no item. If ever there was a time to predict that tomorrow will bring something horribly lame, this just may be it. Not that it matters since we'll all still be on a high from this.

 

[Tieno]

Now, keep in mind that I am basically technologically illiterate...but is it possible that the level files will be nothing more than directions as to which assets from Brawl to load and where to put them, and not actually contain any in-game assets themselves?

That's probably it, similar to the Halo 3 saved films and forge custom maps. They only say 'this crate should stand there' or 'then I jumped, pressed triggers and threw a grenade'.