The Kaptain rocks that red coat
He also has one of my favorite lines of dialogue in all of gaming: "OONK!"
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He also has one of my favorite lines of dialogue in all of gaming: "OONK!"
Lunchbillion
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ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Don't get my hopes up.
I really feel like DKC/2 nostalgia is the only reason people want him. He's such an ugly beast.
C....Kaptain K rool looks nice enough. The other 2 tho...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I only want James Bond if it's Pierce Brosnan Bond.
EastOfEden
Member
Hmm, I guess it's hard to tell the logical 'slots' people from the irrational ones. But there certainly are people who talk about slots on here who share the same opinion as me...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The best Bond games have Brosnan in it.
My experience with people being worried about slots is elsewhere, mind you. So there's that.
My experience with people being worried about slots is elsewhere, mind you. So there's that.
Characters to tell a story, even if it's a simple one. Miku/Ronald weren't created to tell a story, they were created to sell a product.
While Mario has become more of a marketing tool by plastering him on games that otherwise might not sell-- his sole creation was more akin to a character in a novel (Harry Potter and Katniss for example). It's a thin line where you can create something as a character to tell a story, and to sell something at the same time too...like GI Joe or Star Wars.
Basically- we don't even know what ads are anymore...
Red Arremer
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Wrong.
There's more reasons to create a character than just "tell a story" or "sell a product".
Already Torn
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So they're like ROB?
GiantBreadbug
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Man I really do not know whether or not to consume any delicious leaks
Hmm
Hmm
Red Arremer
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Miku and Old Spice dude have nothing in common, though, other than being mascots for their respective properties.
Miku is closer to the Wii Fit Trainer, the paperclip assistant in Microsoft Word, or, to bring another example, those virtual agents. You know, some websites have a character that is supposed to make the interaction between user and site easier to visualize and makes it seem friendlier than just text. Something like this:
This lady is not used to market PayPal in the slightest, but she still exists as a tool. A part of something, used to assist and visualize aspects of the software. Just like Miku.
If Sarah had become a massive hit and caused an enormous boost of popularity in PayPal's helpdesk, then I'm sure PayPal would use Sarah more often, and would've considered marketing her beyond just being the digital agent, like branding PayPal using her image. The same way Crypton did with Miku, essentially.
*goes back and reads posts* Huh...I never said that.
But yeah sure, I'm wrong and Miku will be in Smash because she's totally a game character and wasn't created as a way to sell a program to Japanese people who like anime characters and is in no way like the marketing character Ronald McDonald...
So they're like ROB?
I've already mentioned he was a marketing tool...not sure...what you're getting at here.
Already Torn
Banned
I'm not sure what you're getting at really. If she's like characters that are already in Smash, what's the problem?
Lunchbillion
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Well, here are my character hopes: ranging from impossible to double impossible. #KungFuManForSm4sh
Of these, I would be ecstatic to have Banjo-Kazooie, Inklings, Wolf, and Master Chief.Well, here are my character hopes: ranging from impossible to double impossible. #KungFuManForSm4sh
Blood Diamonds
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where the fuck are the leaks
Red Arremer
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Are you trying to just argue against me cause you're blatantly wrong and don't know when to give up, or are you seriously so thick?
Miku was created as a part of the music software she came with, as a virtual agent to visualize the music that was created in the Vocaloid 2 software - the first Vocaloid did not have this feature, by the way.
She was one of several characters that were created this way, and Crypton didn't even start with marketing Vocaloid towards non-professional musicians or manga/anime fans before Miku became such a massive success. They did not intend for her to become as popular as she is originally, they just are riding on that popularity now.
Is she being used as marketing icon now? Yes. Was she solely created for this purpose alone? Not even in the slightest.
Let's not forget who the mascot is.
This man. Is there anything he can'tn do?
Other than recover when he is in his doctor suit.
I have been following the Smash coverage of these forums now since Smash 4's announcement. The fun and coverage you guys have brought to Smash are what made even bother making an account. I just wanted to say that no matter what gets announced and whether or not its the final dlc announcement, its been an honor and a pleasure gentlemen.
Viewtiful Joe please!
Oh got ya.
Miku was created as a way to sell a program that isn't gaming related, and has been moved to games as time has moved on. Her main purpose wasn't to sell games and isn't a neat throwback to gaming history (unlike ROB). In this sense, to me it's like adding Ronald McDonald- he's had games, but his main purpose isn't in gaming and never will be. The reason she's even on the games is to sell them or endorse them as being good, so in that sense I guess it'd be more similar to the Madden franchise where the only thing Madden has ever done is allow his name, image and voice to be used.
If you're OK with John Madden getting in, then by all means I guess Miku can make it in.
I do find Tony Hawk to be slightly different (as he's had some say in promoting/making the games in the past) but I'd not really want him in either as it's a similar deal.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It was fake.
Red Arremer
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Except the Project Diva games were co-developed by Crypton.
So this argument:
Applies to Miku as much as Tony Hawk.
Also stop saying:
That's false.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Yup, apparently the song titles were all wrong. Not to mention PM looked like he'd been traced in Macromedia Flash really badly.
It was fake.
I would be so happy if Banjo and Kazooie got in. Master Chief? Weird but I would welcome him, he's a fucking videogame icon so he would still fit in.Well, here are my character hopes: ranging from impossible to double impossible. #KungFuManForSm4sh
Goku gets in and I'll be livid
for a bit before exploding from hype. I'd take it lol.
MaverickHunterAsh
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My prediction:
- Wolf
- Inkling
- Fountain of Dreams or Poké Floats
- Splatoon stage
My "this probably won't happen but hey, there's actually a small chance it could and I would be overjoyed if it did" hopes:
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Shovel Knight
- Dixie
- Sector Z or Corneria
- Magicant
- Mute City SNES
- Saffron City
- Kingdom II
My impossible dreams:
- Chorus Kids + a Rhythm Heaven stage
- Miku
- Sora
- Hyrule Warriors Impa
- A Link to the Past Ganon
- Frigate Orpheon
- Spear Pillar
Let's go.
- Wolf
- Inkling
- Fountain of Dreams or Poké Floats
- Splatoon stage
My "this probably won't happen but hey, there's actually a small chance it could and I would be overjoyed if it did" hopes:
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Shovel Knight
- Dixie
- Sector Z or Corneria
- Magicant
- Mute City SNES
- Saffron City
- Kingdom II
My impossible dreams:
- Chorus Kids + a Rhythm Heaven stage
- Miku
- Sora
- Hyrule Warriors Impa
- A Link to the Past Ganon
- Frigate Orpheon
- Spear Pillar
Let's go.
I want this.
oreomunsta
Banned
This is a fantastic list... Here is a virtual hug (>._.)>
Y'know, in the GX discussion (which was excellent, as always), Derrick said you didn't have a "ballot winner" in your list, but I think the Inklings could be just that. I know I voted for them, and I'm sure the entire Splatoon community did, as well.
Well, here are my character hopes: ranging from impossible to double impossible. #KungFuManForSm4sh
I wouldn't consider Inkling in the realm of "impossible".
Didn't Pixel say in the past that he wouldn't want Quote in Smash?
GiantBreadbug
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Cloud + Midgar
Wolf + Corneria ( 3DS gets a stage from Wii U)
Ice Climber + Summit
Snake + Shadow Moses Island
Inkling + Inkopolis
Chorus Kids + Rhythm Heaven
Plus some more past stages like FoD, Pokémon Stadium 1, and others.
I would ascend to a higher plane.
Wolf + Corneria ( 3DS gets a stage from Wii U)
Ice Climber + Summit
Snake + Shadow Moses Island
Inkling + Inkopolis
Chorus Kids + Rhythm Heaven
Plus some more past stages like FoD, Pokémon Stadium 1, and others.
I would ascend to a higher plane.
tonyh24613
Member
If they're going to add inklings and a Splatoon stage, they better not choose Arowana Mall, I hate that stage.
Did we ever actually have evidence that Chorus Kids existed some time in development? I know it was a rumor floating around forever, and I think it was in some lists that were all correct except for Chorus Kids.
I really really really want Snake back but I've honestly given up hope with Konami's shenanigans.
I'm wondering if they actually will stick to the "There's space for 3 more characters" thing, or was that an elaborate fake out? I don't think anything they will announce can possibly top Cloud, but I think at the very least there will be a semi-bomb dropped on Tuesday.
My predictions:
(Cloud obviously)
Wolf
Wonder Bayonetta
Yeah, that last one was a weird one. I feel like W101 and Bayonetta both deserve representation in the game, and this would be a really cool way to include both, and be able to deal with the potential CERO/ESRB rating issue with Bayonetta. It's a weird guess, but something I could totally see Sakurai doing.
He was caught (!) by Konami. Sent him to an isolated prison called pachislot.
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