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[MetalAlien]

No one friggen has it! I'd like to buy it, it'd be nice if it was availible.

 

[Rlan]

I'd like to buy it, but I don't know if it'd come out in Australia :\

Seriously, is there a way to softmod the PS2 and Xbox? [ie; play US games on a PAL machine without needing to fiddle inside the console. like a swap disc or some sort of Action replay card thing?

 

[bionic77]

How do you fuck up games from 20 years ago like Golden Axe, Outrun, and Columns?

 

[Cafeman]

Is there a way to play mirrored tracks on this version of VR? IF so, what is it?

 

[Shinobi]

Heh, got VR (& 9 stiffs) yesterday...game's a lot twitchier then I remember it being.

 

[MetalAlien]

I still can't find it in Vegas.....damn it to hell!

 

[op_ivy]

i picked mine up a few days ago.

VR is sweet, but the auto saving seems fucked for the career mode thing. i played through the first season, and half of the second (with the acceleration cars), then quit, and the thing had never saved...

the other games really arent all that bad IMO, especially space harrier.

sure, the graphics are shitty, but i think if you kept the same exact game of outrun or space harrier with really sweet graphics, it just wouldnt mesh well... so, in essence, these terrible graphics "fit" the gameplay, they are just redone in 3d. does that make sense?

overall though, VR is really the only game i give a damn about on the disc. i have my modded xbox to play the rest emulated, and really, for a classics collection, trhere are some really odd choices in there

 

[MetalAlien]

I finally got it! Man VR is really sweet! The graphics look arcade perfect, including the pop-up (i'm fine with it since the arcade popped up in the same way) but it all runs at 60FPS... Nice.

Outrun looks like ass though...shoiuld have left it alone I guess..still glad to have it... I haven't played the others yet...too much PSP.

 

[ManaByte]

Isn't VR a 32X port and not an arcade port?

 

[MetalAlien]

Isn't VR a 32X port and not an arcade port?

I dunno, but I had the 32X version and this looks way better IMO...

 

[Cafeman]

If this game is based on the 32x version, then they added a lot more detail. The 32X version was coded by SOJ themselves back in the day, and it ROCKED even on the horribly misdesigned stopgap adapter thingy which was 32X.

Anyway, I got a digital camera and I'm not very talented at using it to snap in-game pictures, but here are a few shots of VR:

http://cafeman.www9.50megs.com/Modern/vr.html

 

[MetalAlien]

I made some vid-caps to compare the 2..... Vr deluxe is taken from old video so it's not exactly fair, but I think you can clearly see VR1_PS2 is way more detailed.


http://www.angelfire.com/al/metalalien/pictures/vr1_vrdlx.JPG

 

[Buffy4ever]

I got the game today. This collection is not as bad as some make it out to be. VR Racing is great. I really like colums, outrun, space harrier, Bonzai Brothers, and alien syndrome. collums in original arcade mode , plays, sound and looks like the original game. the redone graphics really do fit the original graphics of outrun. Is the as good as Outrun 2. No way, but this was a budget title. I think I actually like this version of Alien syndrome more then the arcade version. it is more playable. the only really bad game in this colleciton is Golden Axe. I think people have been dissappointed in that game, so that why people give this collection a low score. they altered Golden Axe too much. the stages aren't the same. the jumping and then attack move is altered, and they put too much animation in the game. I see Golden Axe worked becuase it was 2d and the frames were limited.

 

[MetalAlien]

Here's another capture of VR, you can really see the detail in this shot.

http://www.angelfire.com/al/metalalien/pictures/VR1_overhead.JPG

 

[xexex]

my GAWD Virtua Racing on PS2 is damn FUGLY


original 1992 game

why to nice games for their time have to get mangled so badly ?

 

[xexex]

and this flawed collection is seriously fucked without After Burner II included, one of the better looking games in the 3D Ages series

 

[Sho Nuff]

my GAWD Virtua Racing on PS2 is damn FUGLY


original 1992 game

why to nice games for their time have to get mangled so badly ?

Uh, actually, VR is the best port in there, and it is arcade perfect geometry wise. This has been proven so many times it's not even funny.

 

[xexex]

Uh, actually, VR is the best port in there, and it is arcade perfect geometry wise. This has been proven so many times it's not even funny.

I'm not disputing that. the PS2 version is superior to the arcade in that its 60 FPS. it just looks bad in screen shots. I'll still buy it (the collection) though

 

[DCharlie]

"the other games really arent all that bad IMO, especially space harrier."

Space harrier is horrible.

WELCOME TO THE EURO-TECHNO-HELL-SHIT-GRAPHICS-MODELS-WITH-TERRIBLE-SLOWDOWN-BEYOND-LEVEL-10-MANTASY-ZONE



very few of the Sega ages games are above average , it's a crying shame

 

[xexex]

1990s Sega Ages > 2000s Sega 3D Ages


the 90s Sega Ages on Saturn were far better, because they were the original games.

 

[xexex]

heh, 3D Ages: Golden Axe - Playstation2 (2003)

Golden Axe System16 (1989)

 

[Dave Long]

The 1UP review isn't comparing apples to apples with Super Monaco GP. The Sega Ages version is a remake of the arcade original, not the Genesis game with the same name that was completely different in style from the arcade game.

 

[MetalAlien]

Actually if you look closely of the pictures in the VR ads (thanks for flooding the thread with gianormous pictures), the PS2 car-wheels appear to have smaller blocks....if anything it's using a tiny bit more geometry... But either way it's clearly the best port of VR ever released....

I have video of the Saturn version if anyone wants to compare. I am a bit upset we didn't get a progressive scan or 16.9 option since clearly the original game did include at least a 16.9 version. It'd be nice for some full scene anti aliasing too. Shouldn't be too hard for the PS2 running flat polygons.

EDIT: here, I took the largest picture from that VR ad, and made a new screen capture (of the same scene) of the PS2 VR to compare.... you can see the geometry is almost exactly the same, except the wheels seems to be slightly higher poly count in the PS2 version....


http://www.angelfire.com/al/metalalien/pictures/vr_new1.JPG

 

[Cafeman]

Nice comparison shots, MetalAlien. (What product / method do you use for screen caps?)

There are tons of nice details that (maybe all of them?) that are in this PS2 VR.

Those palm trees -- if you hit them, coconuts fall. And the little trees, you can knock those over. Birds fly away at the beginning of the Bridge level and around the first lap's hairpin on the Acropolis. MetalAlien's comparison shots show the detailed city in Acropolis too.

VRDeluxe was good, but it did fake bgs with 2D background layers of moutains.

 

[MetalAlien]

Nice comparison shots, MetalAlien. (What product / method do you use for screen caps?).

I have a Dazzleb 80 and a Creative Webcam.. I use the dazzle hardware (with S-video) and the software from the webcam (ditched the camera itself) since the Dazzle 80 comes with crapware.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I'm LOVING this compilation.

Fuck everybody else.

Alien Syndrome > Me.

 

[MetalAlien]

I'm LOVING this compilation.

Fuck everybody else.

Alien Syndrome > Me.

Me and my nephew just beat Alien Syndrome, that's a cool game.. I've never played the original, but I like this version.

 

[Unison]

I have to say that I even like Golden Axe here.

 

[Buffy4ever]

I really like this collection. I can't figure out people saying this collection is all messed up. All the games, except Golden Axe play as good as the Saturn Sega Ages counterparts Outrun, Columns, Space Harrier, Bonzia Brothers,Virtua racing, and Alien syndrome all control and play well. Yes they alter the graphics, but they are just updates of the original graphics in Polygon form. Yes, Golden Axe has problems, and Monacoe all control and play well. Yes they alter the graphics, but they are just updates of the original graphics in Polygon form. Yes, Golden Axe has problems, and I would have preferd AfterBurner 2 over Monaco GP, but overall this is a fun colleciton. I believe if Sega had the same games in a collection that had used the games form the Saturn Sega Ages colleciton, i think people would still whin and bitch.

 

[Kumiko Nikaido]

It's good this collection costs only $20 dollars.....any more and it would've been a ripoff. The 10 games on this disc contains the original gameplay of each title in spirit, but whoa.....these so-called updated and "remastered" graphics are haphazard and ugly looking (with some exceptions of course).

The best games on this compilation are Outrun, Virtua Racing, Fantasy Zone, and Columns. Why Sega chose Tant R and Bonanza Bros. is puzzling, since both these games aren't all that known on this side of the Pacific. And gee, throwing in 3 racing titles!? Variety is the spice of life, and it could've been mixed up with the likes of After Burner II, Decathlete, or even Gain Ground.

Even though 3D-Ages used the RenderWare platform to remake these titles, it's surprising that the games have slowdown (save for Virtua Racing). Ok, so these are budget titles in Japan.....that's still no excuse for lazy programming. Ack!

Too bad the original renditions of the games weren't included. These remakes look sloppy, but at least the music is faithful. :\

 

[Shinobi]

I'm glad Decathlete wasn't included...gives me hope that the whole collection (also includes Winter Heat, Virtua Athlete) will be released here one day!

I'd also like to see a fighting collection with VF2, Vipers and Last Bronx on the same disc.

 

[FightyF]

LOL @ "Virtual Reality Surpasses Reality at Last!" text on the older VR screen

Anyone played VR with a forcefeedback wheel? Does it even support FF? Heh, does it even support a wheel?

 

[mosaic]

VR is sweet, but the auto saving seems fucked for the career mode thing. i played through the first season, and half of the second (with the acceleration cars), then quit, and the thing had never saved...

Seems this is a known bug. If you create a save file with any of the other games first, your V.R. save will be corrupt and won't record GP times or save unlocked cars. In order to avoid any problems, you have to play Virtua Racing first and create the save file... then all will work OK.