Linkstrikesback
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That's nice. You still have to grind for the funbucks somehow. The system is intended to get people to spend actual money on the characters and not the other way around, else they'd just give them to everybody.
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So Capcom released an Early Access game, priced like a full one
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That's nice. You still have to grind for the funbucks somehow. The system is intended to get people to spend actual money on the characters and not the other way around, else they'd just give them to everybody.
Well, put a check on the final match, then, not on the entire Survival, because if the connection drops, like it happens way too often, you are prompted back to the main menu losing everything. It's a poor decision.
Primethius
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My point is that the online issues aren't going to persist for long. The online is already tons better then the immediate hours after launch. So when the online is stable in a day or so, the argument falls apart, no?
Hence my Siege comparison. Quite literally the same thing in many ways.
the game came out yesterday. what else were you expecting?
Psychoward
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a high profile franchise got a release this week and there's a lot of threads on it? No way! This is coming from someone who couldn't care less about fighting games.
I don't know how it parses out. I've completed story and easy survival for most characters, and a couple normal survival. I've played maybe 15-20 matches online (bronze rank), and I have about 285k.
So 300k was a bit generous, but not off by much if I do a few more normal survival modes.
I had a lvl 11 Bison go BUCK on me last night. He was doing links and everything. Showed me a new crush counter combo!
BotoxAgent
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I am very happy with the core mechanics of the game so far. It's so fun. Once online is smooth again, I will be wasting a fuckton of hours on this
I'm on NeoGAF every day and this seems pretty stunning to me.
Magnet_Man
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You're a monster.
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Oh, you're one of those conspiracy theorists that says all DLC must be ideas stolen from the main game and can't simply add on to an intended release package?
Psychoward
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there's only 3 threads on the FP right now. Compared to Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 this is hardly anything.
Cyber Caesar
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Day 2 and the servers are still spotty. I'm a little bit down, but I'll get over it as soon as they sort this all out.
Well, not exactly, because not all people play online. Not all people want to pay for Plus/Live. Some people want just a fighting game to play with, so there should be SP modes too.
Otherwise just to a multi only fighting game and sell it, but at least people will know what they are buying, exactly like Ubi did with Rainbow Six.
Both Sony and Capcom are to blame for this but most of the blame should fall on Sony! If you're going to claim this as a console exclusive you should make sure that everything is set in place for it to run as smooth as possible! How is it that Street Fighter 4 was release on multiple consoles without these problems!?!
You have 16 characters, 8 backgrounds, very little offline modes and all of them tied to being online to make progress. The game should've been priced at $40 bucks to be frank!
You have 16 characters, 8 backgrounds, very little offline modes and all of them tied to being online to make progress. The game should've been priced at $40 bucks to be frank!
everything is about the same shit tho. Like we are getting the same answers. The same back and forth.
Its not like each new thread adds anything
Psychoward
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Most of the blame should fall on the people who didn't even make and decide to release the game in this state?
Just_myles
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vcc said:
What do you mean? That seems awfully/carefully worded.
Primethius
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That's why I made the Siege comparison. That game suffered similar problems at launch, functions in much of the same way without an Internet connection and was outlined as such before release.
Capcom was pretty clear for the most part, so I can't agree with many of the criticisms regarding value (for me).
cantthink9
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i miss the days where people enjoyed video games instead of bitched about them
Of course the system is designed so that people who want everything will just spend money, but most players probably won't want every new character and will most likely be able to get the ones they want the most for free. I think it's a pretty good compromise.
Meanwhile you have games like Blazblue and Guilty Gear forcing you to spend $8 per character on DLC and that's horseshit.
Those days never really existed. You should look at these Usenet posts from the early 90s.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39840842&postcount=75
Psychoward
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as opposed to the hundreds of threads about how Witcher 3's combat sucks?
KingJ2002
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Street Fighter V release is very reminscent of KOF XII.
SNK Playmore spent so much time updating the graphics and the system that they didn't focus on the core content... so the game only had an arcade match, player match, and network match... with no story mode, survival mode, challenge mode or anything
One key difference is that Capcom will be providing additional modes & characters each month... and by june this game will be very different from what launched.
Like Destiny & Driveclub back in 2014... being an early adopter sucks... but give it time and you'll realize that the core experience with the addition of the new content makes for a great gaming experience.
SNK Playmore spent so much time updating the graphics and the system that they didn't focus on the core content... so the game only had an arcade match, player match, and network match... with no story mode, survival mode, challenge mode or anything
One key difference is that Capcom will be providing additional modes & characters each month... and by june this game will be very different from what launched.
Like Destiny & Driveclub back in 2014... being an early adopter sucks... but give it time and you'll realize that the core experience with the addition of the new content makes for a great gaming experience.
Because Street Fighter 4 wasn't crossplay between two platforms and didn't have an ingame currency system. It quite literally could not have had these problems.
Cyber Caesar
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These new thread topics could all go in the OT thread.
Fright Zone
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How many threads do we need about SFV's lack of SP content on launch?
I feel like the topic's been done to death already.
I feel like the topic's been done to death already.
Xion_Stellar
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That's the price to pay for having cross play with the PC version because all it would take is one "clever" person to hack unlimited fight money into the game by messing with the game files on PC if this information was save locally instead of online.
If the PC version was not cross play than I'm almost sure Capcom wouldn't have put so much effort into trying to prevent cheating in the PC version.
Psychoward
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Driveclub's issues weren't similar to Destiny - the game felt complete for $60, its issues were server-side.
OrbitalBeard
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You know, I could say something equally absurd like "I miss the days where video games were released in a complete state".
Baron Aloha
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You actually can't even play the game offline at all on PC if you don't have a connection when you start the game up. If there is a way to advance past the title screen I haven't figured it out.
And the thing is, I'm sure there will still be someone "clever" to unlock all that stuff anyway. You may not be able to play online when that happens..but still. It just hurts the regular paying customers in the end.
And the thing is, I'm sure there will still be someone "clever" to unlock all that stuff anyway. You may not be able to play online when that happens..but still. It just hurts the regular paying customers in the end.
Alternative: game doesn't come out until late in the summer (or fall) and isn't at EVO this year.
What we have now: a gigantic beta test, and/or early access game, with pretty polished gameplay, and it will be at EVO. Yes you paid full price for it, but you have plenty of time to grind fake money out of the game so you don't have to pay for DLC in the future. If you play it enough, you'll still only pay $60 for the game over its lifetime. In that case, what does it really matter if you pay $60 and play some of the game for a few months, or wait a few months and pay $60 for all of the game?
What we have now: a gigantic beta test, and/or early access game, with pretty polished gameplay, and it will be at EVO. Yes you paid full price for it, but you have plenty of time to grind fake money out of the game so you don't have to pay for DLC in the future. If you play it enough, you'll still only pay $60 for the game over its lifetime. In that case, what does it really matter if you pay $60 and play some of the game for a few months, or wait a few months and pay $60 for all of the game?
That was stupid to if it happened. Not every "I hate this thing" topic deserves a thread
outunderthestars
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Congrats on being the first person to ever use my tag to personally insult me rather than actually reply. Seriously, congrats. Nobody has ever done that before. Very clever......
MatrixMan.EXE
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You do not understand what Early Access is, OP.
Psychoward
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Because if the game is lacking in content for $60 you shouldn't have to pay or grind for more content.
yeah after like 3 years
You won't have to pay or grind for the full game content. Only for characters. Story mode, arcade mode (if that's actually coming), more complete options/menus/functionality/etc, will be patched in free of charge.
If the game came out in the fall you'd still be paying/grinding for those additional characters beyond the first 16.
Jaded Alyx
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...training lacks options?
The only content you need to grind for is dlc characters/costumes. Everything else is free.
OrbitalBeard
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You don't have to.
You should wait until the content you want is there and/or the price point you want is reached.
naw, People were butthurt about that too.
Its just that they began to shut up, when Nintendo proved that the constantly adding stuff system worked. Capcom gets their shit together with the servers and next months additions and people will start to get quiet.
Psychoward
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Fair enough, I'm just talking theoreticals here - I have no interest in SFV lol.
People are angry and more people will listen to their opinion when its an OP.
I don't think SFV needs 8 threads of complaints either but I get why people are making them.
I'll clarify why i said that if you really need me to.
SF is not a niche franchise.
Yeah, but there's nothing more. If you read the content road map, only story mode is listed. And that will be 1.2 hours. The only other content listed here, excluding additional characters, is a generic "improved lobby".
No arcade, nothing else.
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