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So Im going on a date (or something) with a prostitute

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What's this "relationship" business you guys keep bringing up? Didn't she explicitly say they're going as friends? And I highly doubt dating a prostitute would be a fulfilling partnership.

Well, "friendship" is a type of relationship. And they are obviously already having sex, making it another type of relationship entirely.
 
Im still trying to figure out what present means?

Like an envelope of money?
I assume that it's illegal to give someone cash for sex but an item worth X dollars as a "present" is totally OK.

Is this true OP? Did you give her the receipt as well so she can get cash eventually?
 
Both are jobs where you provide a service to people for cash and tips. People are so damn weird about sex.
Dunno, call me old fashioned but I see a lot of difference between bringing me food and letting me penetrate them with my penis.

Although the line with waitresses of "so you just did one service for me, how's about doing another" is interesting
 
Dunno, call me old fashioned but I see a lot of difference between bringing me food and letting me penetrate them with my penis.
You're definitely old fashioned.

Sex is fun and it's easy. I can't wrap my mind around people that somehow think it's a worse way to make a living than waiting tables or some shit.
 
You're definitely old fashioned.

Sex is fun and it's easy. I can't wrap my mind around people that somehow think it's a worse way to make a living than waiting tables or some shit.

The sex trade exists entirely because sex is not easy.

Some may consider it on par with waiting tables, but in an emotional sense (when you have a relationship with a person who sells themselves) polygamy is not a natural urge and makes partners jealous.

That does not make people old fashioned. It makes people human.
 
The sex trade exists entirely because sex is not easy.

Some may consider it on par with waiting tables, but in an emotional sense (when you have a relationship with a person who sells themselves) polygamy is not a natural urge and makes partners jealous.

That does not make people old fashioned. It makes people human.

Polygamy is completely natural. Monogamy is the unnatural state. That "jealousy" is a learned thing.
 
My advice -- at this point you need to treat her like any other woman. Make it clear that you think she's special and be assertive. You said you have low self-esteem, but pretend like you don't, around her. Don't act like a jerk, but don't act like a doormat. If you've already slept with her, try to arrange it so you sleep with her again after the movie date. "I don't want tonight to end just yet," etc.

It's important that she respects you, instead of pitying you. If she just pities you, she'll only ever see you as a friend.

EDIT: Don't pay her for sex ever again -- if you have sex after the movie, and she asks for money, refuse and delete her from your phone.

This all looks good from here. I agree.
 
Are we really having a debate over whether someone should realistically differentiate between being a waitress and being a sex worker?

Conventions exist about sex. They're not going away. A lot of people associate sex with intimacy and would have a hard time being with someone who made a living out of having sex with other men - that doesn't make them prudish or judgmental. You can have an aversion to something without placing a moral judgment on it.
 
And we're saying you're wrong. It's a job just the same.

And they're saying that ordering a meal from someone and engaging in sexual intercourse with someone are on two entirely different planes as a service. So, you're not saying conflicting things.
 
Polygamy is completely natural. Monogamy is the unnatural state. That "jealousy" is a learned thing.

Only if you strip it back to it's raw animalistic essence.

Learned behavior is old fashioned? We are completely governed by learned behavior in everything we do. Would you turn up to work tomorrow with no clothes on because it's an learned behavior/unnatural state?

Having a partner that has sex with multiple men in the normal course of a work-week will probably not end well for the self-confessed "loser" OP with low-self-esteem. Any argument that his emotions are old-fashioned learnt behavior probably won't be much of a consolation.
 
Would you turn up to work tomorrow with no clothes on because it's an learned behavior/unnatural state?

I had been wondering why so many people had been showing up naked recently.

Also, you would turn up to work tomorrow with no clothes on if your work was
prostitution
 
To me it sounds like op is getting played. An escort has never been with another guy since op was last with her? Highly doubtful but good luck op
 
She is Korean and she studied in France, so I think we can cut her some slack for that.

Right. Its not like I cant bail after this, I really don't think I would like to have a relationship with her anyway for obvious reasons, but if she wants to hang out and see a movie with me why not. Maybe she is genuine. I will probably find out if she is not, if not I know GAF will rub it in my face when I tell them about it.

Just be a gentleman. Maybe she sees herself as more of a courtesan than a "prostitute", not that it matters. But yeah, don't test her love or be weird or anything. Just be a nice person and see a movie and try to have fun, and no you don't have to pay her, like other people are suggesting. GAF helps you over think things.
 
Both are jobs where you provide a service to people for cash and tips. People are so damn weird about sex.
The most intimate parts of the relationships with the girls I've dated weren't when they handed me food. I also wouldn't have gotten jealous if she handed other people food.
 
The most intimate parts of the relationships with the girls I've dated weren't when they handed me food. I also wouldn't have gotten jealous if she handed other people food.

Speak for yourself
As the saying goes, the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
 
Is it that weird? People end up dating people like waitresses and whatnot. So the business was sexual in nature. Who cares?

I don't entirely get why you keep trying to insist being a sex worker and a waitress are comparable. I suppose its true on some sort of cosmic level, but its disingenuous at best to suggest that prostitution is just like any other occupation.
 
I don't entirely get why you keep trying to insist being a sex worker and a waitress are comparable. I suppose its true on some sort of cosmic level, but its disingenuous at best to suggest that prostitution is just like any other occupation.

Because it really is just another job providing a service, and the only difference is what you've been taught to accept culturally.
 
Because it really is just another job providing a service, and the only difference is what you've been taught to accept culturally.

Except people don't just forget their cultural mores because on a totally basic level, every occupation is simply providing services. That argument is specious because it relies on the presumption that what we've been taught culturally is actually irrelevant; you can't just oversimplify everything down to some base level. You might as well argue in favor of dating an assassin since its just our culture that has told us that killing people is wrong.

I'm not saying prostitutes don't date people or that they can't be good mates, I'm saying that its asinine to act like a prostitute is functionally equivalent to a waitress on any level but the most basic one.
 
Because it really is just another job providing a service, and the only difference is what you've been taught to accept culturally.
The difference is no one is going to get mad when they're in a relationship with a girl and she has to go to work and hand people cheeseburgers. Pretending they're the same is disingenuous at best, because there are people that tie and have experienced personal intimacy and connection with another person during sex, and while I'm sure there's some fetish out there that will make people serving them food have the same effect on people, it's not nearly as common or understandable to the general public.
 
Because it really is just another job providing a service, and the only difference is what you've been taught to accept culturally.

Out of interest, would you offer up your sexual services to men should you need a job? It is after all, just the same as pulling an espresso in Starbucks or changing someones motor oil - with no emotional connection whatsoever.
 
Just don't piss her off and send her away, because she'll come back at your most vulnerable, like when you're being accused of murder, and implicate you.
 
I have seen a few escorts but none that I would ever take for a night out. I just prefer doing a lot of things (going to comedy shows, eating lunch/dinner, etc.) alone.
 
They both live off tips.

Not really, just the waiter.

Im still trying to figure out what present means?

Like an envelope of money?


I assume that it's illegal to give someone cash for sex but an item worth X dollars as a "present" is totally OK.

Is this true OP? Did you give her the receipt as well so she can get cash eventually?

You give her cash as a gift and she have sex with you without the two being related. I know its fucking stupid.


Update: I been in touch. She is working all weekend but she is going to tell me when she has time.
 
I don't know what it is about this particular situation, but I'm already incredibly invested in this whole thing.

I guess I really want the unicorns-and-rainbow ending of Pretty Woman to play out in real life.

Even though that's not too likely.
 
Out of interest, would you offer up your sexual services to men should you need a job? It is after all, just the same as pulling an espresso in Starbucks or changing someones motor oil - with no emotional connection whatsoever.

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And when is the date, OP?
 
Update: I been in touch. She is working all weekend but she is going to tell me when she has time.

This is such a mundane statement that given her situation's context becomes amazing. Anyway I dunno OP, think she does this befriending thing often to secure a repeated customer or do you think she legitimately wants a friend?
 
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