I mean you can discuss it but a lot of people here are acting like he is saying that the gamepad was a mistake when he didn't
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So uhhh Aonuma just admitted Wii U GamePad disrupts gameplay...
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I mean you can discuss it but a lot of people here are acting like he is saying that the gamepad was a mistake when he didn't
ReyVGM
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I see it in in this way:
They can't have ANYONE complaining about the new Zelda, so they removed the Gamepad stuff to avoid any of the complaints they've been hearing since the Wii U came out.
Also, it's coming to NX and they want both games to be the same experience.
Silphonica
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i want to play with pro controller anyway
Yeah pretty sure they realized this almost immediately with the Wii U. Only a handful of games even support it in an interesting way outside of a menu.
Would help if the controller were more ergonomic and it used a capacitive, responsive touch screen so interacting with it didn't require pulling so much focus from the current controls.
Would help if the controller were more ergonomic and it used a capacitive, responsive touch screen so interacting with it didn't require pulling so much focus from the current controls.
It has it's perks. Great for watching streams on the big screen and the internet browser.
brandonh83
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I laughed pretty good.
Splatoon was better for the Gyro.
Nintendo always abandons their system's gimmick. They abandoned the DS's second screen. They abandoned the 3D, even releasing a 2DS, and they abandoned waggle. Completely expected that they would abandon the gamepad screen. Par for the course.
truestatic
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fwiw Twilight Princess HD and Windwaker HD both worked fine with a pro controller.
If the screen is just off while you play Breath of the Wild, with none of the useful features created for those remasters, that's kind of a bummer. If it's seriously just a cut feature to make the NX version look better that's a real fuckin shame.
Movalpolos
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Bluewind098
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I'm not sure if I would call keeping 2 screens in their next handheld and giving their console controller a screen abandoning the concepts the DS introduced. They did move past waggle because they managed to find a better more intuitive alternative in Gyro which they do utilize. 3D you are more or less right even if the newer models were made with improving the 3D effect in mind.
But the gaffer you were replying to was talking about his willingness to incorporate ideas from young developers. No need to be obtuse
Yeah and BotW still uses gyro without the second screen functionality.
I much prefer having the map and stuff on a separate screen.
Especially with it showing live updates to ink placement and team positions and whatnot.
Yes, that can be shown on the tv. But that would just be a waste of space that could possibly be a blind spot for you.
i havent played doom so i dont know, sorry, i promise will play it soon
also to further my point, i dont think that you change weapons on doom as much as i change items in zelda, it is a very stupid comparison, honestly
salamander150
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Yeah, seriously, I'm more used to handheld gaming so laying down while gaming is always so much better for me. Though I'm hoping if NX has a handheld component, maybe off-tv will still be possible. It's such a neat feature, I'd hate for them to take it away entirely.
If you are any sort of man at all, you played it on PC and used the keyboard as your touchpad like God intended.
Where was he when they were making Wiiu
timetokill
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The touchscreen allowed instant map jumping and analysis of map cover, plus the Miiverse implementation was used brilliantly.
Movalpolos
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It actually is breaking news. This is the first time someone tied to the company has spoken negatively about it.
Movalpolos
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Played and finished on both console and PC including Nightmare. Both times with a controller. Guess that makes me more of a man because I don't have to rely on as fast of a turning speed than those that use kb/m.
Besides, I don't do my gaming at a desk.
Everything is better with a gyro
EXACTLY what came to my mind.
timetokill
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Uh oh
ShockingAlberto being real in this thread
But people will use it to reinforce whatever they believe anyway
It's why I'm not buying Star Fox and only like playing Off-TV games.
1st post. It's amazing how NeoGAF keeps doing this!
1st post. It's amazing how NeoGAF keeps doing this!
TheDinoman
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Let him helm a revival of Marvelous.
ShadowFox08
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wiimote controls please!
Movalpolos
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That would absolutely ruin the game for me. Like it ruined Skyward Sword.
Schnozberry
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I enjoyed the inventory management on the gamepad screen for Wind Waker HD, but maybe I'm the only one.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this has more to do with achieving parity with the NX sans Gamepad.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this has more to do with achieving parity with the NX sans Gamepad.
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ShadowFox08
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Nope. Outside a few mini games, it was great. What's your experience with motion controls on the Wii--how many games have you played with them?
Mixolydian
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I detect no lies. I've always despised second screen gaming in the vein of WiiU.
ViewtifulJC
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Just figured that out huh
He's only commenting on one usage case of the Gamepad screen. The idea of looking back and forth between the screen and the gamepad constantly aka like in Star Fox and how they rejected that control scheme for the Zelda game.
And, btw, there really hasn't been many if any other Wii U games besides Star Fox that make you look back and forth between the Gamepad and the tv. The Gamepad is mostly about off tv play or asynchronous play or touchscreen control or splitscreen.
Still, given the sales of the Wii U, I can't imagine Nintendo would go with the same idea for a controller again. Plus they have said many times the NX is a new way to play which means a different controller.
Oh and I think off-tv play was the biggest swing and miss feature of the Gamepad. When you go to sit on the couch you don't want to play a game on the tiny screen. You want to play the game on your big screen. I had many test subjects play the Wii U many a time and rarely ever saw any of them use the off-tv play feature. Mobile devices were for off-tv play. Nintendo's own 3ds was for off-tv play. No one needed or wanted off tv play for their console games especially when you had to be in front of the tv anyway. hdtvs were too plentiful and cheap too. and take up no room. No one needs to share a tv anymore so the idea junior could continue his game on the Gamepad while Mom&Dad used the tv never panned out at least in this household. I thought that feature was going to be a big selling pt when I first heard about it but in my experience these were some big macro reasons why that it was never going to happen.
And, btw, there really hasn't been many if any other Wii U games besides Star Fox that make you look back and forth between the Gamepad and the tv. The Gamepad is mostly about off tv play or asynchronous play or touchscreen control or splitscreen.
Still, given the sales of the Wii U, I can't imagine Nintendo would go with the same idea for a controller again. Plus they have said many times the NX is a new way to play which means a different controller.
Oh and I think off-tv play was the biggest swing and miss feature of the Gamepad. When you go to sit on the couch you don't want to play a game on the tiny screen. You want to play the game on your big screen. I had many test subjects play the Wii U many a time and rarely ever saw any of them use the off-tv play feature. Mobile devices were for off-tv play. Nintendo's own 3ds was for off-tv play. No one needed or wanted off tv play for their console games especially when you had to be in front of the tv anyway. hdtvs were too plentiful and cheap too. and take up no room. No one needs to share a tv anymore so the idea junior could continue his game on the Gamepad while Mom&Dad used the tv never panned out at least in this household. I thought that feature was going to be a big selling pt when I first heard about it but in my experience these were some big macro reasons why that it was never going to happen.
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