Why would a mini be that much cheaper? Where are they saving money?
EDIT: I guess no dock + joycon dock but still...
I already have a Switch so here's my input....IMPROVE THE BATTERY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IMPROVE!!!
THE!!!!!!!
BATTERY!!!!!!!!!!
LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Higher res screen, newer Tegra chip and better battery life, if they can nail those three things down I'll definitely upgrade. Higher res screens exist, Tegra X2 chip exists and higher capacity batteries exist, just comes down to when they can get the price down for those components.
This thread is giving me anxiety about potentially getting a Switch this fall. Goddammit
GAF knows nothing. It's almost always wrong in regard to predictions. You should get a Switch. It's a wonderful device and platform.
also new versions of things always come out. if you wait till the 'right' time you'll never buy any tech.
This thread is giving me anxiety about potentially getting a Switch this fall. Goddammit
It shouldn't. This thread is just filled with people who magically think the detachable controllers are contributing significantly to the cost and simply want a smaller version.
I wouldn't worry at all
This thread is giving me anxiety about potentially getting a Switch this fall. Goddammit
The switch is on 20nm chips and next year we are looking at 7nm becoming a thing. We should be able to see a revision with better battery life come soon.
Honestly i would just expect a new new2ds with the the internals of a Switch, better battery life and Doc compadability.
I think an X2 Switch with a 1080p screen and a VR dock is a possibility. Budget VR with a flagship Nintendo title would be very attractive to lots of folks by then, I would think. The device could also offer a Pro-like boost for the device when used normally, provided developers supported that.
2020.
I don't understand why you're being so defensive in this. It's not a criticism of precious Nintendo to say that they want a better battery life. It's the best that could have been achieved at the time for a fair price point, but for a revision it should definitely be a focus. Comparing to tablets is bizarre, tablets aren't dedicated games machines. Ultimately the battery on Switch is kind of annoying.Min brightness which is honestly fine as long as you aren't outside and the battery life is honesty pretty fucking good. Comparable or better than tablets if all you did was game on them even at higher brightness. What do you want? A 13000mah battery? Then get a portable battery charger and call it a day. If you want that from Nintendo the device would be twice as thick and cost at least $50 more. No thanks.
Switch XL with a bigger screen and bigger joycons, more batery life and a 1080p screen would be nice.
A dockless Switch SKU makes sense as well. A Switch mini seems logical at first sight, but thinking about it makes it seem not likely at all. The joycons are already small enough and non detachable joycons just goes against the Switch design.
A power dock seems likely to me as well further down the road.
Nintendo can go after two different markets. Some people are not interested in tabletop mode at all and just want a dedicated handheld device. The two versions can exist side by side. That's the beauty of what Nintendo has done, they have one single game ecosystem but they can release it on multiple different hardware systems. Theres no reason why in 5 years time we wont have the regular switch, a mini handheld switch and a beefed up home console only pro switch all existing together.i just don't think a switch mini would work at all.
if the joy cons are attached then that kind defeats the whole purpose of being able to play with a friend or using it in tabletop mode. they'd need to include a controller and not just a plastic grip which is going to add more cost. plus if the joy cons are already small as it is. any smaller and they will be straight up uncomfortable. and if they don't include a dock...then you can't even play it on your TV. at that point you might as well stop calling it a Switch because you won't be able to switch between portable/docked.
it just doesn't make any sense.
Nintendo can go after two different markets. Some people are not interested in tabletop mode at all and just want a dedicated handheld device. The two versions can exist side by side. That's the beauty of what Nintendo has done, they have one single game ecosystem but they can release it on multiple different hardware systems. Theres no reason why in 5 years time we wont have the regular switch, a mini handheld switch and a beefed up home console only pro switch all existing together.
It's not just hardware that sells systems though, games sell systems too. There will be people down the line that want to tap into Nintendos new library of games but don't want to own a hybrid system. It'll make sense to release different SKU's at that point. Someone in this thread brought up Pokemon and it's a great example, not having a dedicated handheld available for this game will leave huge untapped potential.They're already going after two different markets by having a device that does both. Ditching your main selling point only makes sense if that main selling point isn't working. The Switch is clearly still selling very well and so people like the idea of it. This isn't like the 3DS where nobody bought it to start with because nobody gives a shit about 3D so they knew that down the line they could remove that and nobody would care.
Also it amazes me that people feel the need to make this exact same topic every week.
X2 with 1080p screen will have the same battery life as the current switchX2 and a 1080p screen is my guess. I think battery is a limiting factor though?
It's not just hardware that sells systems though, games sell systems too. There will be people down the line that want to tap into Nintendos new library of games but don't want to own a hybrid system. It'll make sense to release different SKU's at that point. Someone in this thread brought up Pokemon and it's a great example, not having a dedicated handheld available for this game will leave huge untapped potential.
Without comprimising the vision for the Switch - which is more useful and compelling than either the WiiU or the 3DS' unique features:
- Die shrink to lower power consumption
- If they can pull it off, passive cooling instead of a fan without compromising performance
- With other components being lighter and lower volume, they could in principle simply increase the size of the battery, too
- Screen size increased / bezel decrease while maintaining the same overall form factor
- Fucking DRAMATICALLY improve the weak-ass kickstand. I don't care if they have to get down on their knees and beg for table scraps from Panos Panay, what they included in the Switch was very poor and there are a lot of better designs out there in the wild they could "take inspiration" from.
Making it thinner is questionable. The tablet could certainly be made thinner, but the joycons can't without causing compatibility issues. Without shrinking the Joycons to match, this would mean that a future revision would be slim in the middle, while the joycon attachment points suddenly bulged out in an unseemly manor. I find it unlikely they would choose to do something like that.
Other than the bezel being a bit unseemly and the poor kickstand, the device is actually already very well designed and aesthetically solid.
We're talking about a company that went from a Gameboy Advance to a GBA Micro (and all the SKU's inbetween). They also removed the 3DS's unique selling point in two separate iterations (clamshell/flat 2DS). The removal of 3D wasn't just one of price either, it was a decision made partly to target a younger demographic of gamer.Only if the Switch were a bad handheld which it isn't. It's not like removing the dock and joy con rails would decrease the price dramatically. Removing the Switch part of the Switch doesn't have any net benefit beyond being able to say "Hey, it has less functionality, isn't that awesome?"
Nobody in the mainstream cares about a "Dedicated handheld" if a hybrid handheld has Pokemon on it, they'll buy it for Pokemon.
We're talking about a company that went from a Gameboy Advance to a GBA Micro (and all the SKU's inbetween). They also removed the 3DS's unique selling point in two separate iterations (clamshell/flat 2DS). The removal of 3D wasn't just one of price either, it was a decision made partly to target a younger demographic of gamer.
I find it hard to imagine Nintendo just leaving their hardware lineup with just the Switch in it's current form, seeing as after the 3DS dies this will be their one and only ecosystem.
I used to think this until I pulled out my New 3DS, and geez the Switch has such a good battery.
I expect:
Firstly, maybe as early as next Christmas, a mini version, handheld only, with a separate dock you can buy for it, fully compatible with joycons etc. you can obviously buy separately.
Seems like a great idea. "Here's our new handheld only Switch, it costs basically the same as the regular one, with less functionality and you can add the functionality back in by buying add ons!"
You joke, but this is exactly what I want.
I think the additional dock hardware power is the next iteration.
With incremental upgrades to the handheld as battery tech improves / other components shrink to allow for a bigger battery. How much more do we need out of a handheld?