Pureauthor said:We need some sort of rule that prevents people from coming into Wii screenshot threads and claiming that it looks similar to 360/PS3 games.
Yeah and we also need the opposite (enough with the OMG N64 GRAPHICS AMIRITE).
Pureauthor said:We need some sort of rule that prevents people from coming into Wii screenshot threads and claiming that it looks similar to 360/PS3 games.
Lapsed said:Why? I almost posted how I didn't see anything to get excited about a couple times in the 360/PS3 screenshot/trailer threads. But I figured that would be interpreted as 'trolling' even if it is my genuine thoughts so I stayed quiet.
I'm not the 'hardcore gamer'. Some of the stuff GAF goes crazy over, I do not understand. But I do think the over-sensitivity on the subject is rather odd. Not everyone is a graphic whore. There are many of us like Dragona out there who honestly can't tell much of a difference going on.
I do know that HD TV sales are sluggish at best (no wonder prices keep falling). The HD graphics of Xbox 360 certainly isn't lighting any of the three markets on fire. Most customers seem happy with PS2 games currently.
I wonder if the fear that the mass market won't give much of a care about the crazy polygons and resolutions is at the heart of some of your responses. Most people aren't graphic whores. So what?
with 8xAA and 8xAF amirite?Twilight Rockstar said:I can confirm that those screens aren't touched up. Sure, two of them are obviously not in-game, but I've seen that rain scene running at 60fps, 480p with enemies and explosions, and I've seen that night-time outdoor scene running similarly well.
When it's all moving it does look really impressive.
I thought this was 30fps with some dips.Twilight Rockstar said:I can confirm that those screens aren't touched up. Sure, two of them are obviously not in-game, but I've seen that rain scene running at 60fps, 480p with enemies and explosions, and I've seen that night-time outdoor scene running similarly well.
When it's all moving it does look really impressive.
Twilight Rockstar said:I can confirm that those screens aren't touched up. Sure, two of them are obviously not in-game, but I've seen that rain scene running at 60fps, 480p with enemies and explosions, and I've seen that night-time outdoor scene running similarly well.
When it's all moving it does look really impressive.
jarosh said:with 8xAA and 8xAF amirite?
Please tell me why you would consider it wrong to believe that those shots don't look close a decent X360 game, because even I'm having a hard time picking the differences between this and a fair chunk of the 360 library.Pureauthor said:Red Steel looks massively improved over the E3 build, bullshots or not, but to claim it looks anywhere close to a decent 360 game (visually) is just plain wrong.
I agree man. Its almost as good looking at this game for sure!Mr. Pointy said:Please tell me why you would consider it wrong to believe that those shots don't look close a decent X360 game, because even I'm having a hard time picking the differences between this and a fair chunk of the 360 library.
Maybe they're bullshots, but I think Ubisoft can make Red Steel look that good at 480p.
The Black Brad Pitt said:I agree man. Its almost as good looking at this game for sure!
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Scalemail Ted said:How are the animations looking?
Batteries Not Included
Zoramon089 said:You graphic whore trolls are getting out of hand. I mean you're seriously starting to sound insecure now..."Oh NO teh bullshots that every other console had but I never *****ed about because teh graphics didn't matter until now!!!"
You sound angry.Zoramon089 said:You graphic whore trolls are getting out of hand. I mean you're seriously starting to sound insecure now..."Oh NO teh bullshots that every other console had but I never *****ed about because teh graphics didn't matter until now!!!"
Can you give us some impressions (controlls)? Or are you only hyped because of improved graphics?Twilight Rockstar said:That's something that's still up in the air for me. I've seen some bits that have amazing enemy animations. . . but then I've also seen bits that were decidedly average. I guess we'll know soon enough. The games have to be finished pretty soon so I'm sure you'll see impressions based on final code within the next two to three weeks.
I'm pretty excited about RS though. It started off as a 6 or 7/10 for me but after playing the new build (near-final, not the build that was at the events recently) I'm more hyped about it.
Lapsed said:Most people aren't graphic whores. So what?
Zoramon089 said:You graphic whore trolls are getting out of hand. I mean you're seriously starting to sound insecure now..."Oh NO teh bullshots that every other console had but I never *****ed about because teh graphics didn't matter until now!!!"
DieNGamers said:Can you give us some impressions (controlls)? Or are you only hyped because of improved graphics?
Amir0x said:That's Twilight Rockstar from Official Nintendo UK Gamer. Judging from that, You can be sure that the controls will change your life forever and you will never be the same after you play this amazing true next-gen title with the power of wiimote. (this message was sponsored by Nintendo)
DieNgamers said:Can you give us some impressions (controlls)? Or are you only hyped because of improved graphics?
Twilight Rockstar said:Hyped because it's all starting to come together. The controls are way better than E3 and Leipzig (which was the E3 version anyway). There are still issues though. . . sometimes the pointer freaks out and it takes a few secs to readjust. I'm hoping that will be sorted.
Also, it took me a good hour to get used to the controls but aftare a few hours I was running around and shooting with pin-point precision. The quick flick mof the wrist to reload and the d-pad weapon changing is really nice. It's quite satisfying to finish off a group and then nonchalantly flick your Nunchuk back to reload. And having zoom on the remote (by moving it forwards/backwards) works surprisingly well
Why? I almost posted how I didn't see anything to get excited about a couple times in the 360/PS3 screenshot/trailer threads. But I figured that would be interpreted as 'trolling' even if it is my genuine thoughts so I stayed quiet.
Amir0x said:False premise. You don't need to be a graphic whore to recognize the COLOSSAL difference.
Actually, we point them out in every thread. It's amusing that you don't want it to be pointed out in a thread because it's for a Wii game - note, that doesn't make you a graphic whore. It makes you in tune with reality. Ubisoft reality.
"The Ubisoft way."
That's Twilight Rockstar from Official Nintendo UK Gamer. Judging from that, You can be sure that the controls will change your life forever and you will never be the same after you play this amazing true next-gen title with the power of wiimote. (this message was sponsored by Nintendo)
Pureauthor said:I'm not used to entering graphics debate, but seriously...
That's a PS3 game, not a 360 game, but as far as screenshots are concerned, the difference is negligible.
Look at that. Now look at this.
Please tell me you can see the difference.
Branduil said:Yes, we should instead listen to your very unbiased and objective commentary on Wii games:
*dumb image*
DefectiveReject said:What the hell do you expect it to do? MAGIC?
Amir0x said:Is...that your idea of a photoshop? We got another winner, it seems! :lol
It's ok little Branduil i won't badmouth the waggle today just for you. One night only offer
Heh, I think he was merely responding to the people who couldn't tell the difference. Because if you can't, you're blind! Of course, like you said, we shouldn't expect it to anyway
DefectiveReject said:What the hell do you expect it to do? MAGIC? look at the size of it compared to the other 2 consoles? We know its not a god damn powerhouse.
DefectiveReject said:Yeah i can see the difference.
\Can you see the difference here?
What the hell do you expect it to do? MAGIC? look at the size of it compared to the other 2 consoles? We know its not a god damn powerhouse.
Pureauthor said:Um... this is how pretty much every single Wii screenshot thread turns out:
Step a) Screens get posted
If Screens are bad-
Step b1) People will come in and tell you the screens are bad. The usually also use the words 'gimmick', waggle wand', and 'current-gen'.
If screens are good-
Step b2) Lol bullshots
Following 'if screens are good'
Step c) People will defend the game's graphics based on hardware
Step d) Just as everything is winding down (or sometimes as things are winding up), someone will come in and state that the screens look nearly as good as 360/PS3 graphics. Sensible Nintendo fans slap their foreheads and groan.
Step e) Photoshops! (optional)
Step f) Thread dies.
Pureauthor said:Um... this is how pretty much every single Wii screenshot thread turns out:
Step a) Screens get posted
If Screens are bad-
Step b1) People will come in and tell you the screens are bad. The usually also use the words 'gimmick', waggle wand', and 'current-gen'.
If screens are good-
Step b2) Lol bullshots
Following 'if screens are good'
Step c) People will defend the game's graphics based on hardware
Step d) Just as everything is winding down (or sometimes as things are winding up), someone will come in and state that the screens look nearly as good as 360/PS3 graphics. Sensible Nintendo fans slap their foreheads and groan.
Step e) Photoshops! (optional)
Step f) Thread dies.
Nakasan said:What I would genuinely like to know though, isn't if "graphic whores" think the Wii stacks up well against 360/ps3, but whether they truely feel that the Wii has UGLY graphics.
I don't think anyone should really think that myself... otherwise surely these "graphic whores" wouldn't have bought any consoles up until now...
Any "whores" like to comment?
typhonsentra said:The shots are 1200x768. What could it possibly mean besides the final game supporting that resolution?
DefectiveReject said:Nah Amir0x, i just think that anyone claiming Wii will compare to PS3/360 should be shot, and anyone baiting that the graphics on Wii are bad should be shot.
Hey dont look at me i compared the thing to a ****en xbox.DefectiveReject said:Nah Amir0x, i just think that anyone claiming Wii will compare to PS3/360 should be shot, and anyone baiting that the graphics on Wii are bad should be shot.
Amir0x said:Are Wii games "ugly"? To me personally, most are yes. Most current gen games are not attractive to me. They have fidelity issues, they are often scaled down due to hardware limitations, and in the case of Wii it is not HD. There's exceptions... usually those who utilize artistic direction or which really push the hardware maximum. Like, Okami, RE4, Wind Waker, Ninja Gaiden and Kingdom Hearts II all hold up very well. And likewise, for Wii, there are pretty 'exceptions' - Mario Galaxy is one of the few ones I can point out for you this moment.
And here goes the same old shit again and again.
Pureauthor said:Um... this is how pretty much every single Wii screenshot thread turns out:
Step a) Screens get posted
If Screens are bad-
Step b1) People will come in and tell you the screens are bad. The usually also use the words 'gimmick', waggle wand', and 'current-gen'.
If screens are good-
Step b2) Lol bullshots
Following 'if screens are good'
Step c) People will defend the game's graphics based on hardware
Step d) Just as everything is winding down (or sometimes as things are winding up), someone will come in and state that the screens look nearly as good as 360/PS3 graphics. Sensible Nintendo fans slap their foreheads and groan.
Step e) Photoshops! (optional)
Step f) Thread dies.
Magicpaint said:So I take it then that most PSP games look "ugly" to you?
Amir0x said:They're amazing for a handheld... but Wii is not amazing for anything, in terms of graphics.
Pureauthor said:They're amazing in comparison to the N64!
*glances at Samurai Warriors Wave*
Kinda.