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Sonic Adventure 3 may never happen
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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JeremyEtcetera
Unconfirmed Member
I always thought this was technically SA3 based on the Japanese title:
Also, nostalgia is a hell of a drug if people are in this thread saying Adventure had really tight/great controls. I'll give you decent level design but SA 1 and 2 have way too many flaws to be put on the pedestal people want it to be on.
Also, nostalgia is a hell of a drug if people are in this thread saying Adventure had really tight/great controls. I'll give you decent level design but SA 1 and 2 have way too many flaws to be put on the pedestal people want it to be on.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
I knew I woke up in an alternate timeline because people started actually liking 3D sonic games.
Good! They shouldn't give us Adventure 3. Actually calling any future game Sonic Adventure 3 would just be asking for trouble.
What they should do is give us a game that plays pretty similar Sonic and Shadow stages, and maybe it could have a Chao Garden. Lost World was a step in the right direction for what I'd like to see: a fully 3D action platformer that gives the player more precise control than the boost gameplay does. Lost World suffers from other design decisions, though, and I ended up enjoying the game less overall than Generations.
What they should do is give us a game that plays pretty similar Sonic and Shadow stages, and maybe it could have a Chao Garden. Lost World was a step in the right direction for what I'd like to see: a fully 3D action platformer that gives the player more precise control than the boost gameplay does. Lost World suffers from other design decisions, though, and I ended up enjoying the game less overall than Generations.
I would even hesitate to say that it's because ST was inept. The development of S06 was a total shitshow. It was rushed so that it could be an anniversary game, and the team split mid-development so that they could make Secret Rings for the Wii. If it was up to Sonic Team and not the higher ups, I doubt they'd done either of those things.
shoryukens
Member
That's okay with me. Knowing how things are nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if Sega made the Chao game a f2p mobile game.
Star Orpheus
Member
I've missed the last few Adventure threads so I'm just gonna say this here.
I like the treasure hunting stages.
I like the treasure hunting stages.
Except Mad Space.
SatoAilDarko
Member
After Sonic the Fighters and that I want another Sonic fighting game as well.
You have so many characters to add now. Like Team Chaotix, Babylon Rogues, The Sinister Six, Cream, Silver and Blaze. You can include Boom versions and Sticks as well.
I mean look at the Sonic side of Mario & Sonic at the 2016 Rio Olympic games.
I always thought this was technically SA3 based on the Japanese title:
Also, nostalgia is a hell of a drug if people are in this thread saying Adventure had really tight/great controls. I'll give you decent level design but SA 1 and 2 have way too many flaws to be put on the pedestal people want it to be on.
Even more evidence.
LordKasual
Banned
It already happened.
.....Twice.
Sega just isn't who they used to be, and they stopped caring about giving off the illusion that they were ages ago
The horrible truth:
Sonic Adventure 3 will never happen as you want it to.
And even if it did...it would just be terrible.
.....Twice.
Sega just isn't who they used to be, and they stopped caring about giving off the illusion that they were ages ago
The horrible truth:
Sonic Adventure 3 will never happen as you want it to.
And even if it did...it would just be terrible.
Xist2inspire
Member
So wouldn't opening up the levels a bit and tightening the controls solve this, or at least scratch that itch a bit more? Is the Boost gameplay really that unsalvageable to where it can't possibly be improved, or is it just another case of Sonic fan hyperbole?
I dunno, I just don't get how we can complain about Sega throwing the baby out with the bathwater and failing to build on what works, but then turn around and demand that Sega do exactly that and either scrap everything and start from scratch...or scrap everything and go back to whatever the new hotness is in the nostalgia department.
I mean, it wasn't that long ago when the general consensus was that the Adventure style and all it represented was as fundamentally flawed and in dire need of a total overhaul as some claim the Boost formula is now. People were wrong to dismiss the positives back then, and history's repeating itself these days. Is it really that hard to take a look at the entire series and determine what worked, what could work, and what clearly didn't work, and go forward from there?
Arc Christelle
Member
I'm okay with that. I just want to play with characters outside of Sonic, grandiose story-lines featuring talking animals in a world of humans, and satisfying gameplay that rely on speed and response.
Also Chao Garden.
Also Chao Garden.
I'd buy a Sonic 06 Remake/Kiwami just for a perfected version of a game I had issues with functionally.
But hedabes doe.You're already enough of an embarrassment by being a Shadow stan.
Agreed.
- Gameplay allows full 3D control
- Just need to expand from what Generations started. You can only go forward in so many ways, and any game where Sonic has to turn around is most likely ass that isn't a Genesis joint.
- 3D Pinball Physics don't exist outside of the natural slope provided to pull the ball down, and making a game around that would probably be as fun as Sonic Labyrinth or.... Sonic Pinball.
- As long as the level designs and mechanics aren't as shitty as Colors and Lost World, it's lit.
The Silver
Member
Why is it so damn hard to just make a game with that's an evolution on Sonic/Shadow Adventure level design/gameplay? I don't wanna be constantly on rails or play as a fuckin werewolf.
And where's my goddamm Chao Garden?
And where's my goddamm Chao Garden?
Professor Beef
Banned
Sonic Heroes frustrates me so so much because the central premise is soooo good.I always thought that was Sonic Adventure 4, and this was Sonic Adventure 3:
The entire concept of being able to switch between three different characters on the fly is really good. It allows you to create a larger platforming moveset and create more varied challenges, since you can design them around each of the different characters.
But none of this matters because the level design is complete shit and the controls are horrifically bad.
A sequel to Heroes that actually was competent in these areas could be something special. But noooooope, let's instead ditch it entirely. That's Sonic team in a nutshell. The moment they get a good idea, they will bungle it, decide it's not worth pursuing because they bungled it, and move on to another idea.
NegativeCero
Banned
Like most people here, I don't think Sonic Adventure 3 would be much different than any other 3D Sonics other than having the name and I guess expectations.
arturo2666
Banned
Saw the thread title and assumed it was a necro from 2010 or something. Really though, what the fuck.
pennypincher
Member
Sonic Team should just make something in the middle between exploration and boost. Give players the choice how to play and they will love you for this.
Insert boost formula as a reward, like in the early days with speed in general, bring back spindash for Modern, alternate routes to explore and find special items like in SA and add replay-value with missions to unlock new stuff and Chao.
A universal chao smartphone app compatible to a range of future Sonic-titles with constant input of new content and major upgrades every two or three years alongside the next big Sonic would print SEGA money. The ingredients are all there.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Sonic Adventure games were never good, tbh.
Star Orpheus
Member
I kinda liked treasure hunting so I wouldn't mind if they spruced that up.
Shooting stages can leave though. I found them way more boring.
GhostTrick
Banned
It's cool, I dont want Sonic Team to make Adventure 3. Because Sonic Team is just bad.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Give me a 3D Sonic with the boost gameplay from the non-Adventure 3D Sonic games, the platforming/exploration and character variety of the Aventure games, a non-cringe story, and full fledged Chao Garden.
If Sonic Team manages to pull this off, it'll be the most progressive thing they'd do so far with 3D Sonic, rather than half-baked, unpolished gimmicks everytime.
If Sonic Team manages to pull this off, it'll be the most progressive thing they'd do so far with 3D Sonic, rather than half-baked, unpolished gimmicks everytime.
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
I'm a huge fan of 2D Sonic and I can honestly say that Sonic Adventure series was never good even at the time I thought I was playing some type of mini game/warm up but it turned out to be the actual game...I laughed and turned that shit off. 3D Sonic AT BEST is 7 outta 10 fuck 3D Sonic in general should never have happened. Even the 'good' 3D sonic games are just average.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I want a Sonic Adventure 3 developed be someone completely external to sega. The question is, who?
You mean the classic games?
It's not like the Adventure games were works of art, but they had a level of charm that the following games couldn't match. So yeah, people want more of that, maybe with Sonic Forces... but Sonic 06 was already an "Adventure 3" but it got too ambitious for the deadlines it had...
I always thought this was technically SA3 based on the Japanese title:
Also, nostalgia is a hell of a drug if people are in this thread saying Adventure had really tight/great controls. I'll give you decent level design but SA 1 and 2 have way too many flaws to be put on the pedestal people want it to be on.
I never had a problem with its controls, for me, the thing that murders the gameplay is the camera.
Nowadays? Nah, but the levels were as ambitious as the story, some impressed me a lot back in the day.
SA1 was hammy, and had the chops to get away with it. It was Sega and Sonic team saying "Hold my beer, let me show some next gen platforming" and actually acomplish it.
That's something that's been missing since Sonic Heroes, feels like all they think is "let's do something BIG... But cheap", take the control out of the player, show Sonic running trough 30 loops per second and call it a day.
D.Lo
Member
I was going to say, Heroes was Adventure 3.I always thought that was Sonic Adventure 4, and this was Sonic Adventure 3:
Arc Christelle
Member
If they would kill off the wisps that would be an advancement.
2D Sonic? Nah that shit is boring
Pretty much this. Just bring back the Chao Garden and all its features. That's the only thing that made me cherish Adventure 2 as a game and play it for as long as I did.
Glendemonium
Member
I dunno, the Adventure games didn't click so well. If anything it was the start of the downward spiral for the franchise. Plus even though they're old, they aged badly. Generations found the right balance, they should of went with just speed levels and minimal characters to play as instead of throwing gimmicks left and right.
Also yeah Sonic 06 could of easily been Adventure 3, but that would of meant it'd tarnish the nostalgia of the Adventure brand so maybe that's why they didn't name it as such.
Also yeah Sonic 06 could of easily been Adventure 3, but that would of meant it'd tarnish the nostalgia of the Adventure brand so maybe that's why they didn't name it as such.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Its going to happen one day.
I imagine so.
