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Totobeni said:so no d-pad on the Nunchuk
even Splitfish PS3 Dual evolution has d-pad on the Nunchuk.
No there is a D-pad on the Nunchuk. I say in my post.
Totobeni said:so no d-pad on the Nunchuk
even Splitfish PS3 Dual evolution has d-pad on the Nunchuk.
Galvanise_ said:Any more info on what that big button does on the Arc wand? I heard rumours a while back that they were thinking of making it a biometric sensor pad.
Totobeni said:so no d-pad on the Nunchuk
???ichinisan said:Nunchuck has an analog stick at the front, below that X and O and below that a D pad. Underneath is L1 and L2. Its actually long, not like the Wii Nunchuk.
Galvanise_ said:Any more info on what that big button does on the Arc wand? I heard rumours a while back that they were thinking of making it a biometric sensor pad.
ichinisan said:Nunchuck has an analog stick at the front, below that X and O and below that a D pad. Underneath is L1 and L2. Its actually long, not like the Wii Nunchuk.
Jonnyram said:
ichinisan said:Nope just a big fat easy to use button. Nothing special.
ichinisan said:Just saw pictures of Wand/Nunchuk so:
Nunchuck has an analog stick at the front, below that X and O and below that a D pad. Underneath is L1 and L2. Its actually long, not like the Wii Nunchuk.
As for the Wand it has one very big button on top and then all four facebuttons (X,O,Square and Triangle) and underneath is a big trigger called T.
ichinisan said:I'm guess the doubling up of X and O across the two is to keep full compatibility with single Wand set-ups.
ichinisan said:Anyway, I'm sure we'll see in the week.
SecretBonusPoint said::lol :lol :lol I'm going to assume thats among the "out there" rumours that has no chance of appearing in a 2010 mass-market product. Big Button is most likely for BUZZ! esque games and other casual stuff.
Wireless nunchuck sounds quite a bit more developed than I'd thought with a analog stick, buttons AND a D-Pad.
Y2Kev said:What the hell is this going to cost? Eyetoy + wand + nunchuk? How can they match the 60 wiimote price?
Galvanise_ said:Thats pretty disappointing. I think I'm going to grow to detest that button. Maybe some developers will use it to change the colour of the 'orb' in certain games that may require it.
Y2Kev said:What the hell is this going to cost? Eyetoy + wand + nunchuk? How can they match the 60 wiimote price?
Y2Kev said:What the hell is this going to cost? Eyetoy + wand + nunchuk? How can they match the 60 wiimote price?
itsgreen said:Well considering they (everyone) overprice peripherals...
gofreak said:I think the nunchuck will be marketed for people who absolutely can't live with a ds3 as nunchuck. i.e. not as a necessity.
gofreak said:I think the typical 'starter bundle' will be eye + wand + game. And I think they can do that at 60. Eyepet was eye + game @ 50 euros (and quickly got discounted to 40 or less round here). So I think a year on they'll be able to do eye + wand + game at 60.
That's definitely not a full BD game though. Maybe a download code (flower?).I think the typical 'starter bundle' will be eye + wand + game. And I think they can do that at 60.
Commanche Raisin Toast said:there's also the issue of the developers coming up with controls schemes that are (similar to the wii) dependent upon what hardware it detects.
ie: if it senses just the wand (and it doesn't require more than just the wand), it will enable the wand-only control scheme by default. if it senses wand + nunchuck, it will give you the option of the wand-only scheme or using the nunchuck too- showing you what all buttons do what. THEN... if you are using a wand + DS3, it will open that option up to you, and show you THAT layout, as there are more buttons available for a potential control scheme if a DS3 is involved, rather than just wand and/or nunchuck.
just a "T" button on the wand- no R1/R2 right?
i know im going to get flamed but this is actually exciting me for future games releasing with pure DS3 support AND arc support. if i get tired i can switch control schemes and sit down. :lol
Man said:That's definitely not a full BD game though. Maybe a download code (flower?).
Man said:That's definitely not a full BD game though. Maybe a download code (flower?).
Linkified said:From reading the descrition of the Arc + Nunchuck it makes be kinda worried as the Arc itself seems to have less buttons than a wiimote and the nunchuck seems to have too many. I guess I need to see software that incorporates both pieces of this puzzle though.
Well, From official picture of "wand" I saw there are about 6 or 7 buttons and XMB button.Linkified said:From reading the descrition of the Arc + Nunchuck it makes be kinda worried as the Arc itself seems to have less buttons than a wiimote and the nunchuck seems to have too many. I guess I need to see software that incorporates both pieces of this puzzle though.
ichinisan said:I am Alpha and Omega....
I jest, I have a friend with access to these. Hopefully I'll be proved right at GDC.
Y2Kev said:What the hell is this going to cost? Eyetoy + wand + nunchuk? How can they match the 60 wiimote price?
[Nintex] said:Well, I'm interested in seeing this tech again but I can't help but think that it'll be bad for Sony in the short run. MS is going to grab every chance they get to show off how inferior it is to Natal and how Natal is true innovation and more PR speak, while Nintendo will slam it for being 'the same' and 'late the party' even if that doesn't turn out to be true.
[Nintex] said:Well, I'm interested in seeing this tech again but I can't help but think that it'll be bad for Sony in the short run. MS is going to grab every chance they get to show off how inferior it is to Natal and how Natal is true innovation and more PR speak, while Nintendo will slam it for being 'the same' and 'late the party' even if that doesn't turn out to be true.
The Nunchuck isn't wire connected like the Wii. So you can navigate Menus simply by holding the Nunchuck alone while holding whatever else in your right hand.TTP said:I don't understand the need of X and O on the Nunchuck but seeing as there is a D-Pad I wont complain
Baki said:$69.99 is too much for ARC + PSEye + Mini-Game Collection. $59.99 seems like the right price and Sony will be getting a decent margin on that (unless they include the nunchuck, which I think they should).
$69.99 seems more like the right price for a Killzone 3 bundle. But to be honest, you can't play Killzone 3 without a "nunchuck".
gofreak said:Everyone already has a nunchuck though. It's called a DS3. If you buy - say - a KZ3 bundle with an eye and Arc, you've everything you need to play the game.
I don't see Sony doing any bundles with the nunchuck. It'll be a 'pro' tool, an option sold seperately.
ichinisan said:Just saw pictures of Wand/Nunchuk so:
Nunchuck has an analog stick at the front, below that X and O and below that a D pad. Underneath is L1 and L2. Its actually long, not like the Wii Nunchuk.
As for the Wand it has one very big button on top and then all four facebuttons (X,O,Square and Triangle) and underneath is a big trigger called T.
I'm guess the doubling up of X and O across the two is to keep full compatibility with single Wand set-ups.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll see in the week.
gofreak said:Everyone already has a nunchuck though. It's called a DS3. If you buy - say - a KZ3 bundle with an eye and Arc, you've everything you need to play the game.
I don't see Sony doing any bundles with the nunchuck. It'll be a 'pro' tool, an option sold seperately.
Wireless.RockmanWhore said:
Do you know if the nunchuk is connected to the Arc via a cable like the Wiimote/Nunchuk or is it wireless?
SolidSnakex said:Then this thing is dead. People are not going to want to play this thing with a DS3 in one hand and the wand in the other. It's uncomfortable.
Baki said:But if you want mass adoption of the product then, yes, you do "need" a nunchuck. Again, my suggestion is in regards to mass adoption. If SCE wants this thing to take off, the nunchuck HAS to be included (and affordable). If you don't, people will try the cheap option and will be immediately put off. Obviously, there will be some that will invest in the "pro" option but you do not want to take that risk (i.e. to see how many people are willing to invest in the pro-option).
DMeisterJ said:I'm glad that you came back from the future and were able to tell us what everyone wanted. Some people, like myself, see no need for the wand, having two perfectly good DS3s laying around. I'll be using those. Damn the nuchuck.
And it is not uncomfortable.
If holding the DS3 with one hand is uncomfortable, you're doing it wrong. The correct word is 'inelegant'. Yes, it's not an elegant solution, but the comfortability is fine.
gofreak said:You have to trade that off against price though. What impact on adoption with another x bucks on your starting price?
With a game like KZ3, too...Sony knows the audience. They know the guys playing KZ3 are probably more likely to know about and splash out on a nunchuck vs the people buying My Fashion Boutique 12. I think that'd probably go for a lot of games using the nunchuck - they aren't likely to be the games pushing this thing out to 'mass adoption', so I think any damage to such adoption by non-inclusion of a nunchuck would be very limited. If any games push this out to mass adoption, it'll be the kind that only need a wand anyhow.
Can someone do this?shagg_187 said:Draw a MSPaint mockup?
DMeisterJ said:I'm glad that you came back from the future and were able to tell us what everyone wanted. Some people, like myself, see no need for the wand, having two perfectly good DS3s laying around. I'll be using those. Damn the nuchuck.
And it is not uncomfortable.
If holding the DS3 with one hand is uncomfortable, you're doing it wrong. The correct word is 'inelegant'. Yes, it's not an elegant solution, but the comfortability is fine.
gofreak said:You have to trade that off against price though. What impact on adoption with another x bucks on your starting price?
With a game like KZ3, too...Sony knows the audience. They know the guys playing KZ3 are probably more likely to know about and splash out on a nunchuck vs the people buying My Fashion Boutique 12. I think that'd probably go for a lot of games using the nunchuck - they aren't likely to be the games pushing this thing out to 'mass adoption', so I think any damage to such adoption by non-inclusion of a nunchuck would be very limited. If any games push this out to mass adoption, it'll be the kind that only need a wand anyhow.
SolidSnakex said:The DS3 wasn't meant to be held with one hand. The fact that Sony is actually creating a nunchuck, a device that is meant to be held with one hand, shows that they understand this. Now there's no reason for them to bullshit and not bundle that with the wand.
SolidSnakex said:The DS3 wasn't meant to be held with one hand. The fact that Sony is actually creating a nunchuck, a device that is meant to be held with one hand, shows that they understand this. Now there's no reason for them to bullshit and not bundle that with the wand.
Baki said:One reason. Money.