Nice reply.Your sarcasm is noted and appreciated. Yes you may.
Its cool to See people having fun and not just hating each other.
Thanks 4 being cool
Nice reply.Your sarcasm is noted and appreciated. Yes you may.
So many wrongs i don't know where to start. People comparing game pass to PSNow are wrong too, the second was streaming only service for years (that i subscribe), that only changed mainly because of game pass _ a download only service that came some years later and made Playstation fans/clients with bad internet access (or any access to PSNow) start asking for the download option.Everyone keeps bringing up PSNow was before Game Pass, that's irrelevant. Nobody gave a shit about PSNow. It was extremely unsuccessful. Even though it was first it had only 10% the number of subscribers of Game Pass.
I don't troll game pass threads, im a big ps fan and again also a happy subscriber of Playstation plus (the original subscription service between the two companies and that started all up) since its beginning many years ago. I have hundreds of ps4, ps3 and classics in my plus library (as long as i continue subscribing the service) that i really don't need to buy games anymore for years now.For years now we've had Game Pass threads downplayed, trolled and derailed. We've had to hear how Sony fans have no interest and would never subscribe to a sub like Game Pass and how they would rather own their games than rent them. Now that Sony has revamped it's subs to be somewhat more like Game Pass, all of a sudden subs and renting games is great.
P.S. I'm not referring to you in the above, I know you aren't a troll and haven't been downplaying Game Pass which is why I chose to respond to you rather than any of the trolls. I'm not going to further derail or engage in back and forth with any of the trolls. I'm just giving YOU my opinion and how I view it.
So many wrongs i don't know where to start. People comparing game pass to PSNow are wrong too, the second was streaming only service for years (that i subscribe), that only changed mainly because of game pass _ a download only service that came some years later and made Playstation fans/clients with bad internet access (or any access to PSNow) start asking for the download option.
But first of all, if PSNow was so shit and unsuccessful like you said, don't know why Google and Microsoft followed its steps so many years later with Stadia and Xcloud _ there must be a bunch of morons running those places.
I don't troll game pass threads, im a big ps fan and again also a happy subscriber of Playstation plus (the original subscription service between the two companies and that started all up) since its beginning many years ago. I have hundreds of ps4, ps3 and classics in my plus library (as long as i continue subscribing the service) that i really don't need to buy games anymore for years now.
That being said, lets go to the biggest wrong in your post. Neogaf is a tiny fraction of the gaming community, and even if it was a mirror of it, you would still have people like me who subscribe services since their beginning (when game pass was still in its father nuts), ps fans who truly dislike the concept and haven't changed their mind, ps fans who changed their mind because it's Playstation,... and people just trolling.
Moral of the story, you can not generalize Sony fans like you do in your post, because you only see the troll comments when you are in a xbox thread, open your eyes for the rest of us and for the sake of your mental health.
Psychonauts 2 is their best game over the past two years, but it's AA.Psychonauts 2 and Flight Sim are AAA?
Yeah really annoying when the same people complaining in some threads about derailing and warring act like hypocrites and do the same elsewhereCat Lady was reply-banned for trolling and derailing the thread with silly platform wars BS.
The thread has generally enjoyed mature, healthy and interesting discussions since then. Let's ignore that person's derailing posts and continue with the more worthwhile, on-topic discussion.
This is great news! Thank you for posting it.
This is a well reasoned response that makes some good points, it actually made me pause and think about the story driven content Sony has provided lately. (and backed up with amazing graphics too)
As far as the delay, I mean a 6 or 12 month delay for games like GT7, Horizon, etc. If those start to hit at a regular interval, it's almost as good as day and date in terms of value for most people.
It might cause a new issue for Sony though, a big group of people who won't buy the game when it launces but waits for the pass, which effectively would mean all of the those customers are on a day 1 pass anyhow. (in terms of financials)
I’m not surprised at all, are you? She was hasty to say people were trolling on Starfield threads by saying Bethesda had a bad showing just to proceed and act like this here.Yeah really annoying when the same people complaining in some threads about derailing and warring act like hypocrites and do the same elsewhere
psychonauts 2 was crowdfunded
"With Psychonauts 2, we could see the end of our budget coming up, and so we had cut a lot of stuff [...] We had cut our boss fights. Now we are able to put those back in, and we're like 'we think people would have noticed if we didn't have those boss fights'. Being able to complete the game in the way that it was meant to be was very important."
As long as subs aren't their main business model,yeah.So, Sony fans love game subs now? Renting games is good?
No prob; I came across the tweet mentioning it. Would've linked it but I have lots of trouble embedding Twitter posts in comments. Kinda wish it were more straightforward.
Can say that this isn't just a concern for Sony on the sub side, but also on the PC side hence why they are very cautious about doing Day 1 for PC games as well. I think TLOU Remake is a "safe" test for them in that regard; it'll be Day 1 on PS5 and PC, but it's technically a remake of an almost 10-year old game. Remember that Demon's Souls Remake "mistake" graphic from their September 2020 show that said "PC" as well? I think Sony were probably considering trying this strategy way earlier, but maybe 2020 was too soon, so they backed off (I'm just speculating on that one).
Regardless they're going to monitor TLOU Part 1 Remake market performance very carefully; what the split looks like between PS5 and PC, if it turns out PS5 sales are lower than projected, if PS5 system sales come in lower than projected, if any of that can be tied back to stuff like TLOU Remake Day 1 on PC, and what the revenue on the whole is looking like. If there are negative trends that end up reducing projected revenue, then they'll step away from that strategy. If projected revenue increases are hit or exceeded, they'll continue that strategy. If revenue growth is flat, they'll probably drop the strategy considering the extra costs involved for little to no gain.
It's similar with their approach to Day 1 in their own service, for reasons as you mentioned. They have to make sure that 1: The revenue coming from the subscription service is enough to cover potentially multiple $100+ million 1P games' revenue losses from players waiting to access them through the service instead of buying them, and 2: do so in a way where revenue from the sub service isn't simply "absorbing" that lost revenue, but adding on top of it.
For example, say Sony announces Spiderman 2 is coming to PS+ Premium Day 1. Because of that, say they have a drop of 40% of potential sales as a result, for Day 1/first month. The game comes out for $70 and let's say they would've normally done 8 million in the opening month of sales. However, now they're only going to do 4.8 million, that's 3.2 million less units being sold. That's $224 million in lost revenue, that PS+ Premium would have to make up for, in order to justify that action. However, since that strategy is inherently riskier than the traditional strategy, a company like Sony would probably only consider it if the sub service could generate MORE revenue (in terms of covering the portion that are lost sales) than simply skipping Day 1 for the service altogether.
It's just too big a risk to take for a game of that scale; however, for a much smaller game, say if they made a new Tomba! with the production values of Kena or Stray,...I can definitely see them using that as a test for this type of strategy. Start small, see how that goes, then scale up if it's successful. If there's a certain ceiling, stick with it. If it doesn't work, scale back on that approach. It's not only pretty simple in concept, but a great approach towards risk management, too.
Not for me (EU) it states you need PremiumThey're on extra.
Why? But do let me know when they do though?So you guys are all gonna cancel your subs as soon as Sony starts putting 1st party day one right?
If you don't want to get addicted, don't play Returnal...This is like crack.I just upgraded to Premium and the game library is pretty darn surprisingly high quality.
A surprising number of PS5 games I was gonna buy, e.g. Demons Souls, but now just come with the sub.
It's a very strong value proposition, imho. And the service doesn't even need Sony's FP games on it day one.
Games like Returnal, I was always on the fence about buying, I can play as part of the sub. That's gotta be great for increasing the visibility of less mainstream games and game genres.
So why didn't you ignore this thread?Why is this news worthy?
Gamepass promises 100+ games and gives you 400+. They didn't wrote an article then.
So PS Plus only just started? Just like you'll claim streaming only started when MS did it eh?So, Sony fans love game subs now? Renting games is good?
Valhalla is mid as fuck but the Guardians game is so much fun.
I still have faith that one day you’ll find that in your heart there is a place to classic games and you’ll love them.Yeah I was about to upgrade to Extra mostly for this game, then it was either $30 for Extra or $45 for Premium. Then felt like Sony talking to me.
Well...
No fucks given to PS3-2-1 games.
Just checked and it doesnt have trophies unfortunallyTHIS.
Was this answered?
Literally the only thing that could pry me away from Duckstation at this point.
Flight simulator is AAA. No argument there.No, they are not, stop reaching.
It might be high quality, but I don't think it had the budget of AAA games.Flight simulator is AAA. No argument there.
Pretty sure it's AAA. It was not inexpensive to develop. And from googling it, it seems that it is generally accepted as AAA.It might be high quality, but I don't think it had the budget of AAA games.
Ah yes, the game no console gamers play, just talk about in the great war. And yes, it is a pretty game with some nice tech behind it.
ps+ lvl 2 is great....the ps+++ level sucks because ps3 games are only streamable and run awful/input delay....
we need sackboy and Gt7 on on ps++ aswell
- Red Dead Redemption 2 - 20th September 2022
Hi guys,
My first time playing a streamed game for the PS3. Do all games run at lower framerates while streaming?
Playing God of War Ascension for the first time and it feels like sub 30fps.
No issues with my internet. Have a decent connection.
And Stray will be 1st AA game you’re referring to since the reboot to test the waters on day one.
Some funky math going on with those numbers, but I'll let it slide.
The more people that see gaming is prohibitively expensive only because companies make it so is great to me.
"Free*" games for everyone.
Movies and music did it years ago. It's about time gaming caught up.
When people are working to just be poor, instead of destitute, companies need to be working for that entertainment dollar, instead of assuming it will always be there for them.
Yeah I was about to upgrade to Extra mostly for this game, then it was either $30 for Extra or $45 for Premium. Then felt like Sony talking to me.
Well...
No fucks given to PS3-2-1 games.
They should put Tomba! On the sub already.
this points at the RDR2 next gen remastered version.Fuckin R* did that on game pass as well, RDR 2 only came there for 3~ months give or take if I recall.
Every other game is at least a year but R* only does 3~6 month deals at most.
I'm actually waiting for that to replay it again.this points at the RDR2 next gen remastered version.
this points at the RDR2 next gen remastered version.
No but they’ll will release it and people will double dip.Does it really need one?
No but they’ll will release it and people will double dip.
Does it really need one?