BruceWayneIII
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stupei said:
If you think that GDC is the only time platform holders are talking to developers - you're mistaken. Besides, AAA titles take time. Polish up before showing public.
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Sony GDC 2010 Press Conference (PS Move, PSWii Sports, PSWii Boxing, PSWii Party)
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If you think that GDC is the only time platform holders are talking to developers - you're mistaken. Besides, AAA titles take time. Polish up before showing public.
More press pics of the controllers here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?article_id=1003302
http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?article_id=1003302
DidntKnowJack
Member
I'm pretty sure it was. Looked just like him.thedrizzle34 said:
VibratingDonkey
Member
My opinion of this thing remains unchanged from when I knew nothing about it. These sort of games are kind of exactly what Nintendo showed a couple of years ago, and they're still not really for me.
As always it's primarily the software that has to convince you to purchase the hardware and I simply don't care particularly much about what Sony has shown so far.
Games like SOCOM...I can't see myself splurging out $69, or whatever the Move+subcontroller end up costing, to get Move support in a cover-based third person shooter that I wasn't planning on purchasing anyway. Even if it does work splendidly for shooters...I don't know, I don't really see a point to it. I don't think it would enhance the experience in any tangible manner. If I ever buy a peripheral it'll probably be a racing wheel.
The one demonstration I was intrigued by was the augmented reality one. That stuff is pretty cool. Game looked like fun too, for like en hour though maybe.
Shoulder shrug/10
What a terrible name that is by the way. Sub-controller. So what, it's not as good as a regular controller? Is that what you're trying to say Sony?
As always it's primarily the software that has to convince you to purchase the hardware and I simply don't care particularly much about what Sony has shown so far.
Games like SOCOM...I can't see myself splurging out $69, or whatever the Move+subcontroller end up costing, to get Move support in a cover-based third person shooter that I wasn't planning on purchasing anyway. Even if it does work splendidly for shooters...I don't know, I don't really see a point to it. I don't think it would enhance the experience in any tangible manner. If I ever buy a peripheral it'll probably be a racing wheel.
The one demonstration I was intrigued by was the augmented reality one. That stuff is pretty cool. Game looked like fun too, for like en hour though maybe.
Shoulder shrug/10
What a terrible name that is by the way. Sub-controller. So what, it's not as good as a regular controller? Is that what you're trying to say Sony?
LabouredSubterfuge said:
^ Sums it up quite nicely.
I try not to make absolute claims on whether something will fail or not anymore.
And considering how unpredictable this industry can be, I'm going to enjoy digging through this thread again next year and pulling out posts in case the Move actually does really well.
It doesn't have to be for you. Unlike the Wii, it's mostly optional.
Wow. This is a surprise news announcement to wake up to :lol
I look at it this way (as a Wii fan and PS3 owner).
Wiimote + nunchuk is fantastic control method for games sensibly designed around it. Love playing things like Metroid Prime or mario smash football or SMG etc with it. It can really feel natural.
Sony taking the design and emulating it (with what sounds like some impressive internal tech) only confirms to me that the Wiimote+nunchuk design was the right move to begin with. Everyone copied the dpad. It worked. Everyone copied the analogue stick. It worked too. (I dont think Nintendo invented the analog stick, but they popularised it). This 'freestyle controller' design works well and I am not surprised Sony has seen fit to use it too.
No complaints from me whatsoever, but it will be interesting to see if MS also adopt a similar controller in the future, as opposed to natal.
I look at it this way (as a Wii fan and PS3 owner).
Wiimote + nunchuk is fantastic control method for games sensibly designed around it. Love playing things like Metroid Prime or mario smash football or SMG etc with it. It can really feel natural.
Sony taking the design and emulating it (with what sounds like some impressive internal tech) only confirms to me that the Wiimote+nunchuk design was the right move to begin with. Everyone copied the dpad. It worked. Everyone copied the analogue stick. It worked too. (I dont think Nintendo invented the analog stick, but they popularised it). This 'freestyle controller' design works well and I am not surprised Sony has seen fit to use it too.
No complaints from me whatsoever, but it will be interesting to see if MS also adopt a similar controller in the future, as opposed to natal.
Valkyr Junkie said:
Why would I be? Sure, there's a Dual Shock already, but it takes away from the perceived value of the Move, relative to the Wiimote.
So if I'm a heavy multiplayer gamer, I need 4 Dual Shock 3s and 4 Moves in my living room. Silly, IMO. Sony Move's ergonomics should have considered multiple control options, with a D-pad on the Wand portion.
*edit*
Didn't see there was a D-Pad on the "Nunchuck" half. Still.
Rapping Granny
Banned
I never thought Sony will be stupid enough to create something that's as much of waste money and resources as Home, I guess I was wrong.
PR
OVERVIEW
PlayStation®Move offers a new and innovative gaming experience for the PlayStation®3 (PS3) system
by fusing realistic, high-definition gaming along with accurate, intuitive control. Consisting of
PlayStation®Move motion controller, PlayStation®Move sub-controller and PlayStation®Eye camera,
PlayStation Move enables sophisticated motion control and immersive gameplay only possible on the PS3
system.
PLAYSTATION®MOVE MOTION CONTROLLER
The corner stone of PlayStation Move, PlayStation Move motion controller combines advanced motion
sensors, a dynamic color changing sphere, vibration feedback, and an easy to use button interface. Equipped
with three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer and terrestrial magnetic field sensor, PlayStation Move
motion controller tracks the precise movements and the angle of the controller. The PS3 system also detects
the absolute position of the controller in 3D space by using PlayStation Eye camera. Highly sensitive
movement tracking can be accurately traced back to the game, allowing intuitive gameplay as if the player
is within the game.
KEY FEATURES:
o Works with PlayStation Eye camera to accurately track player position
o Includes action buttons of DUALSHOCK®3 and SIXAXIS® wireless controller for direct
input
o Sleek and Wireless
o Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
o Advanced motion sensors in the controller precisely track both fast and subtle movements
o Color of the sphere's light provides visual feedback during gameplay
o Vibration feedback is felt during specific actions
o Bluetooth® technology supports wireless gaming
o Simultaneously use up to four motion controllers with a PS3 system
o Charge the controller and automatically pair it with the PS3 system via a USB cable (Type
A - Mini-B)
PLAYSTATION®MOVE SUB-CONTROLLER
PlayStation Move sub controller is a supplementary controller, developed to further expand the experience
that PlayStation Move games can offer. It can be used in most PlayStation Move games that require
navigating an in-game character as it replicates the control features of the left side of DUALSHOCK 3 and
SIXAXIS wireless controller into ones PlayStation Move experience. PlayStation Move sub controller
adds an analog stick, directional buttons and two face buttons into the PlayStation Move's control scheme.
In addition, the sub-controller contains the L1 button, L2 button and L3 button for actions and commands
common in advanced gaming.
KEY FEAURES:
o Wireless control completely untethered from PlayStation Move motion controller
o Intuitive navigation of in-game characters
o Easy and intuitive XMB menu navigation
o Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
o Charge the controller and automatically pair it with the PS3 system via a USB cable (Type
A - Mini-B)
o Sleek curved body design that easily pairs with the motion controller
Note: DUALSHOCK 3 and SIXAXIS wireless controller can be used in place of the sub controller for all games
that are compatible with the sub controller
PLAYSTATION®EYE CAMERA
As an integral part of PlayStation Move, PlayStation Eye camera is designed specifically to work with the
next generation of PlayStation Move gaming titles being developed for the PS3 system. When used with
PlayStation Move motion controller, PlayStation Eye camera precisely tracks a users movement and the
motion controllers sphere to help bring every move into the game. In addition, PlayStation Eye camera
captures a players voice or image and when combined together with PlayStation Move games, will bring a
whole new entertainment experience to user only possible on the PlayStation® platform.
KEY FEAURES:
o Engineered to perform in low-light conditions so that the rooms do not have to be lit
brightly for the camera to deliver crisp, perfectly exposed video
o Two position zoom lens for close-up and full body options
o At 60 frames per second, captures a sharp, clear picture at 640 x 480 resolutions
o Frame rate of up to 120 frames per second for improved tracking, responsiveness and
smoothness
o A sophisticated microphone with the ability to reduce background noise and focus on
spoken word for smoother, more accurate speech recognition
PRICING AND AVAILABLILITY:
Available in North America fall 2010. Pricing to be announced.
OVERVIEW
PlayStation®Move offers a new and innovative gaming experience for the PlayStation®3 (PS3) system
by fusing realistic, high-definition gaming along with accurate, intuitive control. Consisting of
PlayStation®Move motion controller, PlayStation®Move sub-controller and PlayStation®Eye camera,
PlayStation Move enables sophisticated motion control and immersive gameplay only possible on the PS3
system.
PLAYSTATION®MOVE MOTION CONTROLLER
The corner stone of PlayStation Move, PlayStation Move motion controller combines advanced motion
sensors, a dynamic color changing sphere, vibration feedback, and an easy to use button interface. Equipped
with three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer and terrestrial magnetic field sensor, PlayStation Move
motion controller tracks the precise movements and the angle of the controller. The PS3 system also detects
the absolute position of the controller in 3D space by using PlayStation Eye camera. Highly sensitive
movement tracking can be accurately traced back to the game, allowing intuitive gameplay as if the player
is within the game.
KEY FEATURES:
o Works with PlayStation Eye camera to accurately track player position
o Includes action buttons of DUALSHOCK®3 and SIXAXIS® wireless controller for direct
input
o Sleek and Wireless
o Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
o Advanced motion sensors in the controller precisely track both fast and subtle movements
o Color of the sphere's light provides visual feedback during gameplay
o Vibration feedback is felt during specific actions
o Bluetooth® technology supports wireless gaming
o Simultaneously use up to four motion controllers with a PS3 system
o Charge the controller and automatically pair it with the PS3 system via a USB cable (Type
A - Mini-B)
PLAYSTATION®MOVE SUB-CONTROLLER
PlayStation Move sub controller is a supplementary controller, developed to further expand the experience
that PlayStation Move games can offer. It can be used in most PlayStation Move games that require
navigating an in-game character as it replicates the control features of the left side of DUALSHOCK 3 and
SIXAXIS wireless controller into ones PlayStation Move experience. PlayStation Move sub controller
adds an analog stick, directional buttons and two face buttons into the PlayStation Move's control scheme.
In addition, the sub-controller contains the L1 button, L2 button and L3 button for actions and commands
common in advanced gaming.
KEY FEAURES:
o Wireless control completely untethered from PlayStation Move motion controller
o Intuitive navigation of in-game characters
o Easy and intuitive XMB menu navigation
o Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
o Charge the controller and automatically pair it with the PS3 system via a USB cable (Type
A - Mini-B)
o Sleek curved body design that easily pairs with the motion controller
Note: DUALSHOCK 3 and SIXAXIS wireless controller can be used in place of the sub controller for all games
that are compatible with the sub controller
PLAYSTATION®EYE CAMERA
As an integral part of PlayStation Move, PlayStation Eye camera is designed specifically to work with the
next generation of PlayStation Move gaming titles being developed for the PS3 system. When used with
PlayStation Move motion controller, PlayStation Eye camera precisely tracks a users movement and the
motion controllers sphere to help bring every move into the game. In addition, PlayStation Eye camera
captures a players voice or image and when combined together with PlayStation Move games, will bring a
whole new entertainment experience to user only possible on the PlayStation® platform.
KEY FEAURES:
o Engineered to perform in low-light conditions so that the rooms do not have to be lit
brightly for the camera to deliver crisp, perfectly exposed video
o Two position zoom lens for close-up and full body options
o At 60 frames per second, captures a sharp, clear picture at 640 x 480 resolutions
o Frame rate of up to 120 frames per second for improved tracking, responsiveness and
smoothness
o A sophisticated microphone with the ability to reduce background noise and focus on
spoken word for smoother, more accurate speech recognition
PRICING AND AVAILABLILITY:
Available in North America fall 2010. Pricing to be announced.
KratosKilla
Banned
Yes it was.thedrizzle34 said:
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
This fighting game looks really terrible.
Why are they showing it?
Why are they showing it?
mercenar1e
Member
Kevin Butler will move more PS3's then the Move can... guaranteed
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Haha gamespot is awesome right now, watching this guy try and throw punches is great.
Dead Man Typing
Member
richisawesome said:
I mentioned Metroid Prime Trilogy having smooth controls on Wii, the reason it works so well (and RE4) is because it was designed for one analogue stick control on the Wii. For other shooters like Call of Duty and Red Steel all use thoe bounding boxes for turning when you aim at the edge of the screen, I hate that, and it would be sorted with a second analogue stick. A PC is dual analogue, well, mouse is right analogue stick and keyboard left. The mouse pointer always stays in the centre of the screen, with the Wii/Move it doesn't. You can aim at any part of the screen but once you get close to the edge the camera shifts, sometimes in unpredictable ways.
Devs have done great work on Wii with customisable controls on the recent CoD games and The Conduit, but a second analogue stick would have made those massive customisation controls unnecessary.
Marty Chinn
Member
Third Party Developers and Publishers Supporting PlayStation®Move platform
Company Name (in alphabetical order, as of March 10, 2010)
505 Games U.S.
Activision Publishing, Inc.
AQ INTERACTIVE Inc.
ARC SYSTEMS WORK CO.,LTD
ATLUS Co., LTD.
Bigben Interactive
CAPCOM CO., LTD.
CCP
Crave Entertainment
CYBERFRONT Corporation
Disney Interactive Studios
Electronic Arts Inc.
FromSoftware, Inc.
Game Republic, Inc.
GUST CO., LTD.
HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD
IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
Koei Co., Ltd.
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Majesco Entertainment
Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
ONGAKUKAN Co., Ltd.
Oxygen Games
PAON CORPORATION
Q Entertainment Inc.
Q-GAMES, LTD.
SEGA CORPORATION
Sony Online Entertainment
Spike Co., Ltd.
SQUARE ENIX GROUP
TECMO, LTD.
THQ Inc.
UBISOFT®
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Zoo Entertainment, Inc.
Company Name (in alphabetical order, as of March 10, 2010)
505 Games U.S.
Activision Publishing, Inc.
AQ INTERACTIVE Inc.
ARC SYSTEMS WORK CO.,LTD
ATLUS Co., LTD.
Bigben Interactive
CAPCOM CO., LTD.
CCP
Crave Entertainment
CYBERFRONT Corporation
Disney Interactive Studios
Electronic Arts Inc.
FromSoftware, Inc.
Game Republic, Inc.
GUST CO., LTD.
HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD
IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
Koei Co., Ltd.
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Majesco Entertainment
Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
ONGAKUKAN Co., Ltd.
Oxygen Games
PAON CORPORATION
Q Entertainment Inc.
Q-GAMES, LTD.
SEGA CORPORATION
Sony Online Entertainment
Spike Co., Ltd.
SQUARE ENIX GROUP
TECMO, LTD.
THQ Inc.
UBISOFT®
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Zoo Entertainment, Inc.
dragonflys545
Member
Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
Makes it much easier.
Makes it much easier.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
This guy on Gamespot keeps 'accidently' saying Wii. :lol
Spatial absolute positionning. Can be useful to some games, won't matter much to many, but still nice to have, even if it makes the package more expensive.A.R.K said:
AFAIK, it's RGB leds, it won't die.A.R.K said:
A couple of new ideas... I would have been pleased with something like echochrome, for example. Just one or two things that are not ripoffs.A.R.K said:
MvmntInGrn
Member
Somewhat off topic: Why do Wii FPS games use a drag look vs how it works on PC with a mouse?
I ask because I don't think Socom looked like it was doing the drag thing (not sure though).
I ask because I don't think Socom looked like it was doing the drag thing (not sure though).
RandomVince said:
Pretty much.
This will work splendidly for games that are designed well around it, and for FPS.
There were a couple of showings that were definitely not rip-offs. Besides, just because echochrome wasn't shown doesn't mean it's not in development or can't be developed for the controller. They're trying to reel in developers with this. It was only formally shown today as something other than a concept.
BlazingDarkness
Member
fighting game looks wank
MickeyKnox
Member
:lol :lol :lolMan said:
Does no one else see that logo as a face down doggy-style stick figure?
I guess the Wii has not taught people anything.
Calling the Move a failure before it comes out is the ultimate failure.
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Anyway, I'm still on HYPE/10. SOCOM 4 looked good, the boxing looked fun, and so did eyepet. While the rest didn't look good at all, they weren't games I'd be remotely interested in, and to the people that will buy them, the games looking like that won't matter (look at the Wii library). I do hope more 'core' games are announced come E3, but I'd buy it just for SOCOM 4 and RE5: Gold.
Calling the Move a failure before it comes out is the ultimate failure.
--
Anyway, I'm still on HYPE/10. SOCOM 4 looked good, the boxing looked fun, and so did eyepet. While the rest didn't look good at all, they weren't games I'd be remotely interested in, and to the people that will buy them, the games looking like that won't matter (look at the Wii library). I do hope more 'core' games are announced come E3, but I'd buy it just for SOCOM 4 and RE5: Gold.
bigboss370
Member
fml i never should have watched the ustream, some ass spoiled ending of GoW3, or at least i think he did.
i wonder the exact price of the move+camera bundle..
i wonder the exact price of the move+camera bundle..