Shifty1897
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Gross. Sometimes I catch a whiff of 2006 Sony hubris nowadays and it scares me.
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Sony has had a patent approved for a “direct to consumer micro transaction store front, targeted by AI”
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joe_zazen
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Mobile f2p giants already manipulate the fuuuuuuuuck out of people include kids. Sony is one of these mobile giants doing these dastardly things. https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/01/25/sony-not-tencent-owns-the-highest-grossing-mobile.aspx
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Who is Al?
MiguelItUp
Member
Well, that's interesting, bizarre, and horrible.
This thread has been entertaining though. It's wild seeing fanboys flock to defend their brand of choice, lol.
This thread has been entertaining though. It's wild seeing fanboys flock to defend their brand of choice, lol.
CeeJay
Member
This isn't guessing and extrapolating, it's literally the example used in the patent.
Psykodad
Banned
Yes, example.
People are worked up over nothing. Talk about being concerned for the sake of being concerned.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Microsoft charging "$30" for a rechargable battery
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He's Canadian, cut him some slack. Their dollar isn't doing so hot.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
So Skynet doesn’t kill us with Terminators but instead personalized micro transaction bombardment
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MilkyJoe
Member
Symmetrical sticks down the bottom are for gibbons
He's right, it's a wanky controller.
CeeJay
Member
Haha, you guys! Sure it might not come to anything but to just brush it off as nothing is as bad as going too far the other way. If anything it signifies an appetite for intent.
Psykodad
Banned
I'm aware that it opens the door to pushing mtx, but if you take the time to read it mentions more than just a focus on selling you extras.
It could also be applied to hint systems, ingame recommendations of gear, whatever.
It's literally described in the patent.
It's clearly focused on retaining player engagement.
As long as it doesn't result in extremely aggressive in-yo-face ads and mtx filling every menu and half your HUD, I don't see anything inherently wrong with the system.
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MilkyJoe
Member
Wtf are you talking about? I've had the same 4 eneloops for the last 7 years. Fuck me the drivel that comes out of your mouth
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Amazing how Sony fans will defend absolutely ANYTHING they do.
Wtf are you talking about? I've had the same 4 eneloops for the last 7 years. Fuck me the drivel that comes out of your mouth
Eneloops are really the best option for any controller. I can't conceive a simple drawback. You don't buy normal batteries, they're pretty cheap, last a long damn time, and theres no issue with needing to replace the controller, or mess with a battery pack. Buy 4 eneloops and simple wall charger, swap as needed, done.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Anything that helps Sony harpoon those whales, huh?
Psykodad
Banned
Surprised to see you reply here and not in the Phil Spencer thread.
Expected more from someone like you.
Anything to get at Sony, huh?
Aidah
Member
Oh wow, as if microtransactions in a single player game isn't already a joke in itself.
"the methodology players use to find suitable or effective items for making progress within a game has not kept pace"
The methodology I use is to actually play the game.
Anyway, I think games that are intended to be beatable by anyone are already beatable by anyone. The only potential real benefit to a hint system like this to me is if it reduces the default handholding that's already in a lot of games.
"the methodology players use to find suitable or effective items for making progress within a game has not kept pace"
The methodology I use is to actually play the game.
Anyway, I think games that are intended to be beatable by anyone are already beatable by anyone. The only potential real benefit to a hint system like this to me is if it reduces the default handholding that's already in a lot of games.
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Oh...I'm so sorry.
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Psykodad
Banned
People rather scream bloody murder and grab their pitchforks.
Aidah
Member
One of the "big" upgrades in the new Elite controller is a built-in battery. LOL.
Animagic
Banned
I remember hearing similar arguments when horse armor first happened. Now look where we are. This industry’s greed has zero chill.
I’m not going to make a big fuss, I just won’t buy any of their shit. Full stop.
This is up there with one time use discs before the Xbox one launched as garbage ideas that will be misused and adopted rapidly on the new consoles. Big red flag for me, personally.
Enjoy closing boost ads in every game at critical moments of gameplay while they make it take the player exponentially longer to complete any tasks without buying add-ons as they progress.
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sadly
Yes, completely true. But when the games are designed to be virtually unbeatable without paying for most people, and a little screen pops up after 10 fails, it's like offering water to dying man in the desert. Its predatory, and the fact we could say no does not change that. And I also fear the games will become more and more designed to essentially require them.
Devs will probably push it as far as they can until gamers get sick of it
Then they'll push it even further. And then some dev with a failed game will be like "maybe we shouldn't have gone so micro-transaction heavy." And then a group of free thinkers will say that's crazy, micro-transactions are good and it was just a shitty game.
Pallas
Member
Seems out of touch, especially when you can easily gather the same info for free by YouTubing or even checking out the guide on Gamefaq, ign or whatever other game site for free on how to beat x boss or complete x puzzle.
Reminds me of the PlayStation tip line that would charge you per tip back in the PS1 days.
Reminds me of the PlayStation tip line that would charge you per tip back in the PS1 days.
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Aidah
Member
What's really sad is a controller that only works for 30hrs out of the box, unlike every other modern device. At least include the batter pack with it ffs.
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Kagero
Member
I see your point, but I still stick to my original comment. It is what it is. Never purchased a single DLC and never will. I see nothing wrong with this sort of business. It's still a choice.
LMJ
Member
The irony of the intro here
Which one MilkyJoe (sounds like an insult, is not lol)? Fig #2 the patent pic?
And I'm referring to the "no my controller is best" silliness on page one and continued from there
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Mad respect to your will power. Mine is decent, but when I play after a few hours drinking, I often wake up with "thank you for your purchase" emails that I'm scared to open.
Aidah
Member
It is both, as it clearly mentions. However, it's true that it's just a patent for now.MilkyJoe I clearly state that it may indeed lead to microtransactions, but it also could be referring to an in game resource IE the Turret Gun in Ratchet and Clank...
Hell likely both, but getting angry and booing what we haven't seen yet make no sense.
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Kagero
Member
Respect back to you for your honesty lolMad respect to your will power. Mine is decent, but when I play after a few hours drinking, I often wake up with "thank you for your purchase" emails that I'm scared to open.
Psykodad
Banned
Don't bother.
Hell likely both, but getting angry and booing what we haven't seen yet make no sense.
People are so up in arms that they completely ignore any rational thought.
For example, the patent mentions it could use data gathered from multiple players and the put it next to the players data to help find the best upgrades.
Upgrades could mean something like paid unlocks, but it could very well mean suggestions for upgrade paths in a rpg or weapon systen or whatever to complement the users playstyle.
(all literally mentioned in the patent)
But even the slightest mention of "Store" and it's all doom and gloom.
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Psykodad
Banned
Way to misinterpret my post.„Slightest“ mention of store? What?
the image says: BUY NOW
Did you read the patent, or are you just parroting others?
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
MilkyJoe
Member
Hell likely both, but getting angry and booing what we haven't seen yet make no sense.
Give it a rest, you tart. It's right there
zeorhymer
Member
What's the big deal? The patent just creates a method on how to get past certain areas of game so that players can continue playing.
Kid: Hey PS how do I beat the boss?
PS: From all the other people who beat the boss, you can do:
Kid: Hey PS how do I beat the boss?
PS: From all the other people who beat the boss, you can do:
- use XYZ in your inventory.
- use XYZ, but you don't have any in the invetory. Buy from the store.
- use XYZ, but you don't have any in the inventory, use 123 instead.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Makes sense.
Unskippable cut scenes. Pay $5 to skip
Make character walk faster. Pay $10 to make him jog
QTE fights. Pay $15 to automatically win button press battles
Unskippable cut scenes. Pay $5 to skip
Make character walk faster. Pay $10 to make him jog
QTE fights. Pay $15 to automatically win button press battles
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