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[arnoldocastillo2003]

wtf arnold. So, you blabbed some BS and whatnot... and of course non of this can be verified. Should leave the "reportage" to websites. As is, I'm not taking you nor any of your posts seriously.

Sorry, you are completely right, what i am saying cannot be confirmed and i recomend to everyone to please not take my word for it. Thanks for the heads up, and i will step off this before something even worse can happen. Thanks for your advice and well, hopefully everything will be allright.

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

That's not what you said.

You said Sony doesn't want to go public because of bad PR.

Please don´t misunderstand, i am just saying what my source told me, he politely told me that he thinks that SONY won´t go public, that is all.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

 

[BobTheFork]

A free theme for your troubles.

For some reason I envisioned them giving us the Red Cross donation themes for free, which would just be horrible.

 

[Tron 2.0]

Please don´t misunderstand, i am just saying what my source told me, he politely told me that he thinks that SONY won´t go public, that is all.

They are compelled to by law.

 

[baekshi]

I wonder what we'll get for free out of this. I don't play online games much on my PS3, so I'm kinda excited about this due to what we'll get for free.

A free update for inconvenience.

 

[GraveRobberX]

For some reason I envisioned them giving us the Red Cross donation themes for free, which would just be horrible.

Watch them troll us by giving us either .detuned or Linger in Shadows (Tech demos lol)
or if very sneaky a MINI

 

[daffy]

First of all, thank you, arnoldocastillo2003 for this information. None of us would have known this otherwise. Even as a junior member, I'm glad I'm a part of this community.

Unconfirmed info as of now.

 

[Jinfash]

• Personal information: Name, Last Name, Address, Email, zip code, country.
• Passwords of the users of PSN: he didn´t confirm this even though i ask him a lot.
• Credit Cards Numbers: He confirm that the numbers were not compromised because the numbers are stored/protected/encrypted in a different way that the personal data (that is what he told me, he and I don´t know shit about computer programming so sorry for not giving specified details here).
• Users Log History was retrieve (don´t know what that is).

That is all he gave me, well summarized at least.

I've already changed ALL my passwords a few months ago thanks to that Gawker's episode, so if this forces me to change them again, I'm gonna rage.

Are they obligated to warn the people with compromised personal information in a situation like this?

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

I've already changed ALL my passwords a few months ago thanks to that Gawker's episode, so if this forces me to change them again, I'm gonna rage.

Are they obligated to warn the people with compromised personal information in a situation like this?

Tron 2.0 has said that they are obligated by law to inform the users/consumers.

Unconfirmed info as of now.

True.

 

[Jinfash]

Tron 2.0 has said that they are obligated by law to inform the users/consumers.

Well as long as they give the affected people a heads up. Thanks for the update on the situation.

 

[RustyNails]

wtf arnold. So, you blabbed some BS and whatnot... and of course non of this can be verified. Should leave the "reportage" to websites. As is, I'm not taking you nor any of your posts seriously.

Didn't you read his fucking disclaimer? What part of "take it with a grain of salt/unconfirmed" do you not understand? Idiots all up in this thread left and right.

 

[Jeramii]

That's kind of the point of him calling it "my source". He got info from someone that works there....giving out a name would cost this person there job potentially.

only glanced over, didn't catch that.

• Personal information: Name, Last Name, Address, Email, zip code, country.
• Passwords of the users of PSN: he didn´t confirm this even though i ask him a lot.
• Credit Cards Numbers: He confirm that the numbers were not compromised because the numbers are stored/protected/encrypted in a different way that the personal data (that is what he told me, he and I don´t know shit about computer programming so sorry for not giving specified details here).
• Users Log History was retrieve (don´t know what that is).

That is all he gave me, well summarized at least.

oh ok... thank you for confirming more information. hopefully this is the case.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

So they pulled the plug on the CC info before there was even a remote chance of it being decrypted. Not bad. If they go public about this they should really hammer this point...

 

[TheSeks]

If they go public about this they should really hammer this point...

However, them getting peoples info and passwords is just as bad. They may have protected more important (read: CC) info, but they still didn't protect my name/address from being taken for a ride in identity theft.

Not that I'm that paranoid, but just saying: Getting peoples usernames, passwords, and their name and address is just as bad as the CC information being taken.

I swear to god if PSN's passwords system was compromised I'm going to be pissed. I gotta change five different accounts in different regions on the PSN stores in that case. Fuck. :/

 

[IonicSnake]

Was this update from Sony posted? If so I apologize, just woke up.

We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.

We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/04/24/latest-update-for-psnqriocity-services/

 

[darkwing]

Was this update from Sony posted? If so I apologize, just woke up.



http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/04/24/latest-update-for-psnqriocity-services/

yup this is new, from the US Blog also


Latest Update for PSN/Qriocity Services
+ Posted by Patrick Seybold // Sr. Director, Corporate Communications & Social Media

We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.
We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.[/quote]

more security, just have more patience

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

However, them getting peoples info and passwords is just as bad. They may have protected more important (read: CC) info, but they still didn't protect my name/address from being taken for a ride in identity theft.

Not that I'm that paranoid, but just saying: Getting peoples usernames, passwords, and their name and address is just as bad as the CC information being taken.

I swear to god if PSN's passwords system was compromised I'm going to be pissed. I gotta change five different accounts in different regions on the PSN stores in that case. Fuck. :/

Just a note, my source didn´t tell me nothing if passwords were retrieve, even though i ask him a lot, i do not informed this.

 

[TheSeks]

Just a note, my source didn´t tell me nothing if passwords were retrieve, even though i ask him a lot, i do not confirm this.

The information on file for billing (my name, address, birthday, zip-code) is bad enough. The password I use to login isn't important, but just icing on the shit layered cake.

 

[dc89]

Man this is getting embarrassing now.

 

[Black Republican]

has anyone purchased megaman maverick hunter or lunar off the psn store before? just wondering the MB/GB size since im currently on a limit

i would check the psn store but lolz

 

[GenericUser]

i dont want to lock my CC just because i bought once(!) from psn.

If the CC info is stolen, i hope sony is smart enough to make this public as soon as possible so that people can properly react. Bad publicity or not!

 

[TheSeks]

If the CC info is stolen, i hope sony is smart enough to make this public as soon as possible so that people can properly react. Bad publicity or not!

I really hope the personal information being stolen is bullshit. Because if it isn't, it's been nearly FIVE DAYS since the breach and that's bad form and PR for Sony to not let us know.

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

i dont want to lock my CC just because i bought once(!) from psn.

If the CC info is stolen, i hope sony is smart enough to make this public as soon as possible so that people can properly react. Bad publicity or not!

If that was the case, don´t you think that SONY would have already inform their users/consumers, and even a user from GAF (Tron 2.0) has confirm that if that was the case, SONY by law had to inform.

 

[Diablos]

Anyone else confirm that Netflix works right now?

It does. After trying to log in press O and the application will continue to load anyway.

 

[GenericUser]

If that was the case, don´t you think that SONY would have already inform their users/consumers, and even a user from GAF (Tron 2.0) has confirm that if that was the case, SONY by law had to inform.

jeah, thats what common sense tells me too.

 

[Kuraudo]

If the CC info was stolen there'd be fraudulent transactions appearing on people's online banking by now. Hackers wouldn't wait four days before trying to use them, especially when Sony could alert users at any time so they can shut their cards down.

 

[Synless]

Anyone else confirm that Netflix works right now?

It works for me.

 

[norinrad]

Thanks Hackers, you ruined Easter for all.

 

[Always-honest]

can hackers bring it back on?
Cause it's mainly gamers you're hurting now.

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

Ok guys, i am not tech-savy, but if you guys have enter the video of anonymous group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldtNivuSxoQ&feature=player_embedded One comment comes out that maybe someone on gaf can explain if it may be true or not.

The comment is:

"I know exactly what happened, so I'll explain it as clearly as possible.

Hackers corrupted Sony's PRS addresses and gained control of their processors. From there, they were able to maintain stability of the DNS servers and send a wide variety of attacks on Sony. When Sony found out they reverted their address malfunctions but were unable to obtain their QUI terms of services so they reduced their QRT processing down to 0% (No PSN) until further notice. Hope this helps! "

 

[Evlar]

Still the funniest thread on GAF.

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

Still the funniest thread on GAF.

Why do you think that?

 

[Evlar]

Why do you think that?

¿ʇɐɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ noʎ op ʎɥʍ

 

[norinrad]

Still the funniest thread on GAF.

You really think this is funny? Preventing millions of gamers from enjoying their online games is funny to you?

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

You really think this is funny? Preventing millions of gamers from enjoying their online games is funny to you?

The reactions are funny. I'm laughing at them, at least.

 

[perfectchaos007]

So if Anon didn't do this, who did?

Was it Mr. Brovslosky? Chef? The 1991 Denver Broncos?

 

[KaYotiX]

The reactions are funny. I'm laughing at them, at least.

It's annoying, I rented Socom 4 and got to play it for 2 hrs before all this shit happened.

 

[MustacheBandit_]

Still the funniest thread on GAF.

I just bought portal 2, Socom 4, and Mortal Kombat and am unable to play any of them online. I don't find it funny at all bro.

 

[Alex]

I'm pretty amused at how inept Sony is, so I'm getting a chuckle out of it. Luckily there's nothing new on PSP that I'd want to download off PSN and I don't play anything online on PS3 even when there is software I want, so I'm not bothered for the time being!

I'm somewhat fascinated on how long this is going on though and curious to see how long it KEEPS going.

 

[Vagabundo]

So they pulled the plug on the CC info before there was even a remote chance of it being decrypted. Not bad. If they go public about this they should really hammer this point...

The hackers probably have the encrypted CC information. They will try and brute force them. Lets hope Sony was better at encrypting those files than they were their own PS3 FW.

 

[MThanded]

Ok guys, i am not tech-savy, but if you guys have enter the video of anonymous group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldtNivuSxoQ&feature=player_embedded One comment comes out that maybe someone on gaf can explain if it may be true or not.

The comment is:

That comment sounds like BS from someone who does not understand technology

The wording "maintain stability of their DNS servers" makes little to no sense.

Edit: almost all of that comment makes no sense.

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

That comment sounds like BS from someone who does not understand technology.

Ok thanks very much, just confirming

 

[Zeenbor]

Just a note, my source didn´t tell me nothing if passwords were retrieve, even though i ask him a lot, i do not informed this.

My sources tell me you and your sources are bullshit.

 

[IonicSnake]

I'm pretty amused at how inept Sony is, so I'm getting a chuckle out of it. Luckily there's nothing new on PSP that I'd want to download off PSN and I don't play anything online on PS3 even when there is software I want, so I'm not bothered for the time being!

I'm somewhat fascinated on how long this is going on though and curious to see how long it KEEPS going. It boggles the mind how the whole damn thing has been down THIS long.

Well, they are re-building it so they haven't just taken it down and are just sitting there looking at the red offline dot.

 

[MThanded]

The pure fact that psn is still down means something big went down. Being a security researcher myself, I am sure they have people working around the clock on getting everything up and running. Every minute they are down they are losing a lot of money(and spending a lot of money fixing it) so if they need to shut down for days on end then the feces must have hit the fan.

Think back at how many breaches take a site or a network down for days on end. Usually the cleanup is pretty quick. This was not a simple Denial of Service or rerouting user logins. Somebody must have penetrated the network did some serious data mining or destroying of internal infrastructure.

Being down to place new security measures in places seems like BS to me. You aren't going to redesign your security policies in 4 days unless you had been planning these changes all a long. I could(possibly) be wrong. My bet is that they are still doing forensics to determine the extent of the breach with hopes of getting a better profile of the attacker.

 

[alphaNoid]

Man this is getting embarrassing now.

To be honest, from a security standpoint.. it was embarrassing to Sony after 5 minutes of downtime. Days upon days of system outages is the worst thing that could ever happen to PSN. Sony got their asses handed to them on a silver platter.

Resumes are being updated as we speak.

You really think this is funny? Preventing millions of gamers from enjoying their online games is funny to you?

I'll chime in... I think its entertaining. Thats mainly because I manage large scale data center operations and over see certain parts of security layers. Seeing a company the size of Sony get attacked isn't something I root for by any means, but it is relevant to my interests, and entertaining. I'm in complete shock they've been offline for this long, its a catastrophic failure. If ever there were a time for popcorn.gif.. its right now.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

Still the funniest thread on GAF.

I don't think hackers stealing people's personal and financial info is funny.

 

[French]

Wonder how many people in this thread don't even have a PS3.

 

[arnoldocastillo2003]

My sources tell me you and your sources are bullshit.

Well it may be true, who knows, i clearly stated to not take my word on it, but thanks for the remark, maybe you can clear somethings up please.

 

[MThanded]

Wonder how many people in this thread don't even have a PS3.

I wish I could go online and experience MK9's horrible netcode.