BloodMoney
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What i take from this post... you are anti Sony, pro Apple, and mad about something. Do you own a Vita?
I am personally excited for cross play. Will be good to lay in bed at night and interface with the PS4.
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Sony says Vita was developed for PS4 more than PS3, not unreasonable to own both
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What i take from this post... you are anti Sony, pro Apple, and mad about something. Do you own a Vita?
I am personally excited for cross play. Will be good to lay in bed at night and interface with the PS4.
Everybody makes mistakes man. I was drunk and trying to look cool in front of some girls. I've learned my lesson
It does have a great library of games.
...your move.
But you are always drunk.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I am hoping Vita gets used heavily in Watch Dogs. I love how the WiiU gamepad essentially removes the HUD from games like Batman AC and Assassin's Creed 3 and puts maps, info, health bars on the gamepad. If they give Vita owners the same options, I will be quite happy.
Plus the Gaikai tech. I think they have their own proprietary streaming protocol (low latency) - again clasping at straws.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
Here is a list of scores on metacritic for all Vita games that have an average of at least 70/100 i.e 7/10. This is a good score for games to get. A lot of games in this list do not appeal to me but they clearly do appeal to others and this shows the range of good games the Vita has right now.
As I said, they might not appeal to you but that doesn't mean there aren't good/great/whatever games on the system
LIMBO - 90
Rayman Origins - 88
Machinarium - 88
Velocity Ultra - 88
LittleBigPlanet PS Vita - 88
Guacamelee! - 87
Tales From Space: Mutant Blobs Attack - 86
Sine Mora - 85
Mortal Kombat - 85
Sound Shapes - 84
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward - 84
Lumines: Electronic Symphony - 83
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD - 83
Gravity Rush - 83
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend - 83
Super Stardust Delta - 82
Fuel Tiracas - 82
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - 81
DJMAX Technika Tune - 81
Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 80
Dead or Alive 5 Plus - 80
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 - 80
FIFA Soccer - 79
Atelier Totori Plus: The Adventurer of Arland - 79
Street Fighter X Tekken - 79
Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game - 79
Wipeout 2048 - 79
Knytt Underground - 79
Retro City Rampage - 79
Switch Galaxy - 79
Surge - 79
The Pinball Arcade - 79
MotorStorm RC - 78
Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention - 78
Thomas Was Alone - 78
SunFlowers - 78
Puddle - 77
Virtua Tennis 4: World Tour Edition - 77
Soul Sacrifice - 77
Plants vs. Zombies - 77
PulzAR - 77
MLB 12: The Show - 76
Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational - 76
Dokuro - 76
Rocketbirds: Hardboiled Chicken - 76
Hustle Kings - 75
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed - 75
Frobisher Says! - 74
Jacob Jones and the Bigfoot Mystery: Episode One - A Bump in the Night - 74
When Vikings Attack! - 73
Haunt the House: Terrortown - 73
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus - 72
Smart as... - 72
Big Sky: Infinity - 71
Rymdkapsel - 71
Unit 13 - 71
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R - 71
Escape Plan - 71
Urban Trial Freestyle - 71
Assassin's Creed III: Liberation - 70
New Little King's Story - 70
metalslimer
Member
Yeah I wonder why people would be pessimistic about Vita....
Opus Angelorum
Member
Perhaps we are all wrong and the PSVita is selling really well...somewhere...anyone?
This list should be indicative of the Vita's problem. It's full of late ports and multiplatform games.
i think the device is awesome
but from a control standpoint it ISNT the same as a dualshock 4
does the vita have 4 triggers? clickable sticks?
no
is the touchscreen a viable solution? not IMO
yeah i own a vita, since day 1. Probably own more retail+digital games than most other supposed vita fans on this forum
i hate touchscreen gaming, thats my point. I dont play games on my iphone 4s, and i dont want touch games on my vita
using the touchscreen as an L2/R2 substitute is junk, thats why this idea of remote play doesnt excite me at all
i dont want games built for consoles with more inputs somehow scaled and shoehorned into a portable
i want games BUILT for the portable
This isn't a sales thread though.
You aren't going to get many as they aren't economically viable. Come to terms with it and move on, you'll be much happier.
Opus Angelorum
Member
It's not, but the poor sales is partially why the criticism exists.
I know you're being sarcastic, but I wonder too. I guess people must have their reasons. Not being Freud, I'm not sure what those reasons are.
thread about some interesting new features being rolled out for Vita with PS4-->collective dump taken.
But whatever, its a toy. a lot of people have fun with it, there are lots of fun games, & offscreen play with ps4 looks to add more fun to platform. *shrug*
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I thought it was software.
Well, it was obvious Vita and PS4 would be built to work together unlike PSP and PS3 that were not built from the ground up to work in tandem causing less than desirable integration. On the other hand I was kind of afraid of this approach and had the feeling they just released the Vita early and didn't plan on fully supporting it till after PS4 came out. Consider it a soft launch.
I don't see how that ties into improved remote play functionality though.
It's about time people gave up on the idea that the Vita is going to get a ton of exclusive handheld specific IPs and start shifting units. It ain't. What you see is what you get. If that doesn't appeal now, fair enough. Endlessly stating what Sony need to do to achieve mainstream sales success is pointless. It ain't gonna happen.
I get that people want to want a Vita, but it should be clear by now what to expect from the device.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I don't think having people lower their expectations for the hardware they purchased is necessarily good at all. I'm not even unhappy with my Vita but that just bugs me a lot.
At that screen size you really would not be able to tell the difference
Doctor Decimate
Member
All your list has done is prove my original point that the Vita lacks a good number of exclusives to justify its price tag.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
metalslimer
Member
For who a blind person? You can't tell the difference between a 540p screen and 1080p at that size. Hell 540p to 720p isa huge leap.
What's the alternative? Keep holding on for some big exclusive retail titles even though all signs point to 'not happening'? That sounds like an exercise in frustration.
That's why mandated remote play is such good news. It's this or nothing, not this or some hypothetical AAA Vita-native library.
JakkuFurosu
Member
It's a shame Vita threads always go in this direction.
Says more about the vita then I wish it did
Says more about the vita then I wish it did
This. It's going to be tempting for people having a mass collection of titles available to play for it. And you add the novelty of being able to off TV play PS4 games on top of possible streaming of PS1/2/3 titles, its going to create sales in the future.
Sure doesn't hurt that there will be an influx of new people to the PS enviroment with the PS4.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think the lower res is helped greatly by the dpi. Honestly, even though it's only 480p I find Wii U games tend to look really attractive on the gamepad. Honestly, Vita's not all that far off resolution wise and some games like Uncharted GA actually render less pixels than native 480p. If you can stomach 540p, I don't see what so awful about the next step down to 480p?
Color is down mainly to implementation though. There's certainly "washed out" games (Sonic Racing being one tragically) but that tends to be the minority.
so at launch and the subsequent months when they were releasing a bunch of awesome, big budget (relative to platform) games like assassins creed, uncharted, wipeout, gravity rush, resistance, unit 13, ninja gaiden, etc etc was i supposed to know they were gonna just drop retail and full blown portable game support?
should i not be pissed that i feel conned into buying whats becoming a machine that plays 2d games even though the tech is way more capable?
i dont see why i have to be happy or accepting of that
if Sony pushed the vita at launch as nothing more than an accessory for the ps4 and handful of 2d games, it would have been my fault for being misinformed
but now i sit here with 20+ retail games and a system i love dearly. But 20 games isnt enough for the lifetime of the system. The Vita is still so young, and when there are games that are just so OBVIOUS to put on the system its maddening to not see it. Assassins Creed did more than good enough sales, same with uncharted. the PSP was not a sales juggernaut but Gran Turismo moved serious units...
Nope, but therein lies the danger of early adoption.
You have every right to be pissed, but you should probably recognise by now that it isn't going to change. You're ranting and raving in every topic like this and where has it got you? Aren't you about ready to say 'fuck it' and throw in the towel?
I bought a Wii-U thinking that Off-TV would be awesome, and it is. Thing is I underestimated just how terrible 3rd party support would be, and I don't really care for Nintendo stuff. Now I'm in that position I can either rage about it, live with it, or sell my Wii-U. Options 2 & 3 look far more appealing and far less stressful than option 1 to me.
I understand your frustration, I just don't understand why you haven't given up on the device yet given that it's morphed into something completely unsuitable for your tastes and preferences. I'd kill for the Vita to turn into the device you want it to be, coincidentally. It's heartbreaking that the mass market don't want it and Sony don't seem to be inclined to change that. It is what it is though.
Doctor Decimate
Member
And the point I made that you attempted to dispute was that there are few worthwhile exclusives, so you have accomplished nothing by copy/pasting a bunch of scores and my point, which was about MY decision not to buy this system, still stands.
bigbaldwolf86
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Duane Cunningham
Member
All I want from Vita is a 32GB card for a decent price. I'd buy and play so much more stuff. But every time I think about getting one, I stare down the $85 price tag and just can't pull the trigger. Even the 16 for $50 is too much. Twice I've almost done it but then just bought a new console game instead. The crazy memory card prices have truly crippled the system to me.
Doctor Decimate
Member
And my basis for a great library of games was the games not available on other systems.
I don't get to play my handheld very often, so I was perfectly ok with going into my Vita purchase without a huge library. To be honest though, I have a backlog of games I want to play, and there are even more coming. Dead Nation is pretty huge to me and I'd like to pick up flower and guacamelee as well.
I'll continue to dig the indie titles and PSN exclusives and get real excited when PS4 drops.
I'll continue to dig the indie titles and PSN exclusives and get real excited when PS4 drops.
Nikodemos
Member
Remote play is HUGE for me.
There are certain types of games I prefer playing on handheld, like RPGs. Playing those games on Vita while watching TV or laying in bed is perfection.
When deciding whether or not to buy a game on Steam or PS4, remote play is going to be a factor for me. I'll spend more on Sony's platform as a result.
I could get an nvidia shield and do this with PC games, but it's far more expensive than the Vita and will only work with a selection of games.
There are certain types of games I prefer playing on handheld, like RPGs. Playing those games on Vita while watching TV or laying in bed is perfection.
When deciding whether or not to buy a game on Steam or PS4, remote play is going to be a factor for me. I'll spend more on Sony's platform as a result.
I could get an nvidia shield and do this with PC games, but it's far more expensive than the Vita and will only work with a selection of games.
Doctor Decimate
Member
True. But unless the library really gets some great exclusive games in the future (Tearaway and maybe Killzone are a start), I'd say it would need to hit $150. And that's probably not going to happen for a long time; I imagine it took quite a bit to get the system to its current price already.
Killing_Joke
Member
Let me sync my DS4 to Vita Sony. DO IT!
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
This is Sony's excuse for never dropping the price of the Vita.
something fishy
Member
I just don't get the chance to play mobile enough so I would not want the big extra cost.
The console is enough for me.
The console is enough for me.
JStein0222
Member
I just want to see it. Show me Watch_Dogs on Vita. I dare you.