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Sony: We're more committed to new IP than other platform holders

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Rightfully so. And that has what to do with your argument? Tear away has been getting a lot of love recently too. You just come off as uninterested, which is fine. Your initial statement was rediculous and obviously ignorant.
 
are those games downloadable games? because i've never heard of ANY OF THEM

You never heard of Journey? Maybe you just weren't on the internet that often.

You never heard of Gravity Rush? This game was heavily advertised around the PS Vita launch!
 
They are, but they have to continue like this and not rest on their laurels.

The good thing about them is variety, from commercial games that try to aim mainstream audiences, to niche games that not sell very much.but make their platforms really appealing to a wider audience and tastes, yo have almost every genre covered, that is what makes Playstation my preferred platform.

If feel nintendo could also rival sony, but despite doing great games, i have the feeling they focus to much on their characters because they sell well, and also fail to explore many genres.
 
In a perfect world, Sony could keep the output they have for games as they currently do... and they could advertise them all.

Doesn't seem possible at all.

I think they should at least do more general 'montage' commercials to highlight their first party games. Whether it's with future release dates (problematic if there are delays), or at the end of a year. Remind people games like Puppeteer, Tearaway, R&C: Into the Nexus, etc. exist and even some of their PSN games like Rain.

It's insane how many games they released this year, with most of them having no advertising. Something is better than nothing. They need to do something for these games. And I'd rather not have fewer games to play just so they can advertise more titles. I buy all their new IPs and most of their games in general.

Just wish they'd give me some JRPGs every now and then. Then they'd offer up a first party lineup that touches on everything that I want from the industry.
 
are those games downloadable games? because i've never heard of ANY OF THEM

Well that's a shame. You should either look in to them or play some of them because it proves your originally statement as false. 3 of those personally to me are absolutely fantastic and quite refreshing, unique games.
 
are those games downloadable games? because i've never heard of ANY OF THEM

Only one game I mentioned in the whole post was digital, and it was probably the most highly acclaimed digital game of 2012.

If you make an absurd sweeping statement like "except for TLOU sony's new ips have been stinkers", people reading would assume you have a vague clue regarding what you're talking about. But you clearly don't, as you have demonstrated.
 
Yeah! Sony does both. That's the key ;)
Sony and their "old" IP's which they have supported for several generations, like Wild Arms, Killzone, Arc the Lad, Gran Turismo, SingStar, Buzz, Shadow of the Beast, etc. ;)

I actually really like some of these franchises like Arc the Lad, Wild Arms and Shadow of the Beast - and SingStar and Buzz are also really great. Too bad they are not front and center at Sony anymore :)

But really, I like a lot of what both Sony, Nintendo and to a lesser extent MS do with their firstparty, and I am glad they all try to specialize in somewhat different stuff.
 
So ICO, Sly Cooper, Patapon, The Last of Us, MLB: The Show, Gran Turismo, Beyond, Killzone, SingStar, EyePet, Buzz, and Tearaway are all the same?

Interesting.

No, but of these games, only Tearaway and Patapon are both innovative and somewhat recent. SingStar and Buzz were definitely innovative when they arrived, but thats about ten years ago. The other games are all pretty safe from a gameplay standpoint, but still pretty good in their own right of course.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The only reason this is true is because, overall, Sony's first party offerings aren't mega hits like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer.
 
I actually really like some of these franchises like Arc the Lad, Wild Arms and Shadow of the Beast - and SingStar and Buzz are also really great. Too bad they are not front and center at Sony anymore :)

But really, I like a lot of what both Sony, Nintendo and to a lesser extent MS do with their firstparty, and I am glad they all try to specialize in somewhat different stuff.
Arc the Lad is coming back, Buzz will be back, Singstar will be back, Shadow of the Beast is coming back, etc.
So the support ist there :P
Only Wild Arms is gone, as it seems :(
 
Lots of new IP but I don't like their focus on how something looks over how it plays. If they can do both like they seem to have done with Infamous then that's perfect.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The only reason this is true is because, overall, Sony's first party offerings aren't mega hits like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer.

This is an honest question about Microsoft. Outside of Halo what else was a first party mega hit?
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The only reason this is true is because, overall, Sony's first party offerings aren't mega hits like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer.

what Nintendo 1st party that are mega hits as of late? all the Wii Party, Wii Sports, etc?
 
Tearaway
Journey
Puppeteer
Gravity Rush
Soul Survivor

You're full of shit.

The only recent ones which have been ropey are Little Deviants, Reality Fighters and Knack. Even Beyond: Two Souls has been utterly polarising, with many people calling it one of their games of the year.

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what Nintendo 1st party that are mega hits as of late? all the Wii Party, Wii Sports, etc?

Mario Kart sold zillions on Wii. POkemon....

Sony lacks that huge IP, it is their 'only' fault. MS has Halo, Nintendo has Mario. Sony maybe GT but racing games are not mainstream anymore.

And i feel it doesn't matter how much they try, those huge selling IP not almays mean supèrb games, just the right game at the right time.
 
Quality about Quantity.
That said, Sony delivered with the goods this year. TLOU, Puppeteer and Tearaway all look original and most impressions were good.
It's their best year in a long time in terms of First Party output.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The only reason this is true is because, overall, Sony's first party offerings aren't mega hits like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer.

I would like to agree with this but Microsoft? Other than Halo... what else?
 
Arc the Lad is coming back, Buzz will be back, Singstar will be back, Shadow of the Beast is coming back, etc.
So the support ist there :P
Only Wild Arms is gone, as it seems :(

Is Arch the Lad really coming back? I didnt know this. Awesome news!
 
New IP =/= originality. And we all see how original and "new" sony first party games are...

As opposed to the output of other platform holders?

Not sure if serious, to be honest. Have you seen this year's first party titles of Sony?
 
I would like to agree with this but Microsoft? Other than Halo... what else?

I don't want to speak for green slime but I think he/she is trying to say that Sony doesn't even have a halo and Microsoft at least have one big seller.

In saying that, I'm sure the last of us and other sony first party games sold quite well.
 
New IP =/= originality. And we all see how original and "new" sony first party games are...

opposed to a new mario or a new halo..yup

I don't want to speak for jsnepo but I think he/she is trying to say that Sony doesn't even have a halo and Microsoft at least have one big seller.

In saying that, I'm sure the last of us and other sony first party games sold quite well.

this is plain bullshit..some sony games make big numbers like the gt series
 
This year alone Sony gave us the following non-sequels: The Last of Us, Beyond, Puppeteer, Tearaway.

Which is part of the reason why I now own a PS4.
 
Mario Kart sold zillions on Wii. POkemon....

Sony lacks that huge IP, it is their 'only' fault. MS has Halo, Nintendo has Mario. Sony maybe GT but racing games are not mainstream anymore.

And i feel it doesn't matter how much they try, those huge selling IP not almays mean supèrb games, just the right game at the right time.

TLOU sold zillions copies and that's fresh new IP. Even Uncharted franchise is much more fresh than Nintendo rehash
 
are those games downloadable games? because i've never heard of ANY OF THEM

Somehow it doesn't surprise me your awareness of games that aren't some Microsoft sequel/annualised series would be limited.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The only reason this is true is because, overall, Sony's first party offerings aren't mega hits like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer.

If you've said it before I would have thought you'd have been made aware of how very wrong you are with this statement.
 
They just need to make more IPs that sell better.

Their shotgun approach isn't ideal IMO, simply so they can say they invest in new IP for the sake of being able to say it.
 
TLOU sold zillions copies and that's fresh new IP. Even Uncharted franchise is much more fresh than Nintendo rehash

oh, i agree, i just meant that sony's best selling IP are on a different level than MK Wii, Pokemon or COD. Halo would be below those but still ahead TLOU or Uncharted. Gears would be a similar IP sales wise.
 
They just need to make more IPs that sell better.

Their shotgun approach isn't ideal IMO, simply so they can say they invest in new IP for the sake of being able to say it.

As opposed to what? You are acting as if every MS IP sells gangbusters. How much did Alan Wake sell? Forza Horizon? How much is Ryse selling? Yeah thought so. Lets face it. None of these companies have multiple massive franchises. The only difference being Sony has a number of franchises that sell decent numbers as opposed to the very few of MS. Nintendo is weird. UC and GOW sold more than Zelda last gen inspite of a smaller install base. Mario does not seem to have the command it had on home consoles given the sales so ideally no fanboy from any company should boast about sales of first party stuff. We shall see how quantam break and insomniac's game do sales wise.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The only reason this is true is because, overall, Sony's first party offerings aren't mega hits like what Nintendo and Microsoft offer.

That can't be the only reason because you have developers like Gavin Moore,Toyama, David Cage and the ND guys explicitly stating they wanted to work on something other than a sequel. Gavin and the ND guys got to form their own, new team because of it.

New IP =/= originality. And we all see how original and "new" sony first party games are...

Right, Gravity Rush and Tokyo Jungle had more originality in them than the vast majority of first party games across all three manufacturers.
 
As opposed to what? You are acting as if every MS IP sells gangbusters. How much did Alan Wake sell? Forza Horizon? How much is Ryse selling? Yeah thought so. Lets face it. None of these companies have multiple massive franchises. The only difference being Sony has a number of franchises that sell decent numbers as opposed to the very few of MS. Nintendo is weird. UC and GOW sold more than Zelda last gen inspite of a smaller install base. Mario does not seem to have the command it had on home consoles given the sales so ideally no fanboy from any company should boast about sales of first party stuff. We shall see how quantam break and insomniac's game do sales wise.

The only one that sounds like a fanboy is you right now.

Read my post, then read yours again without the goggles on.
 
New IP =/= originality. And we all see how original and "new" sony first party games are...

Games like Tearaway and Puppeteer aren't original?

Yet you got your biggest dev to make another Uncharted game...

Working on new IP's doesn't mean that they should just drop their successful existing franchises completely. With Naughty Dog and other studios having more than one team, why can't they do both?
 
This year alone Sony gave us the following non-sequels: The Last of Us, Beyond, Puppeteer, Tearaway.

Which is part of the reason why I now own a PS4.

How many of those games are on PS4? An what launch games on the system warrented the purchase that weren't on PS3?
 
Couldn't tell by the looks of their launch line-up.

Their PS4 launch line up? For which they published 3 games, 2 of which were new IPs? If I was being generous I'd include Playroom as well... that'd be 3 out of 4 games which were new IPs.

I'm not sure you read my post. I said sony first party games sell very well but not as much as a halo would.

GT5 sold as well as any Halo did last gen.

The only one that sounds like a fanboy is you right now.

He does?
 
If we judge systems by their launch lineups then the PS2 must of had one of the worst software libraries ever.

So we're moving the goal posts now? Sony made the statement not me, an I'm critquing them based on whats currently available which IS fair. In a year then my assesment will change, but right now all there saying is fluff.
 
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