tizorres
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Yup, quoting to confirm I have the same issue.Anyone use the twitch app on the x800d? I can't log into my account because the code doesn't show up, anyone else have this issue?
Yup, quoting to confirm I have the same issue.Anyone use the twitch app on the x800d? I can't log into my account because the code doesn't show up, anyone else have this issue?
My TV is a few months old. There's no returning it back.
Either HDR is not what it's hyped up to be, this TV just sucks at it, or Amazon video sucks.
A lot of the apps run like shit. I keep getting the MLB.TV app stopped work every time I turn on the TV. Android sucks.
Uh... You're completely wrong.That's because this TV is not bright enough to show off the brighter colors of HDR. To make matters worse, if you have the 49" version then it will be even less impressive because it has an IPS panel. IPS panels have terrible contrast ratio because of shitty blacks.
Uh... You're completely wrong.
Oh boy.
I'm amazed at how well this as propagated on this site. IPS is hardly a terrible display technology. Assuming you're in a brightly lit room. Or toss a lighting strip on the back if you use it in a darker room. Your use case has an effect on the tech.
No local dimming will hurt the contrast. No denying that. But given that the average scene in HDR is not mastered at 1000 nits (more in the 300-500 range barring explosions etc) , people saying the colors will be too dim are poorly informed at best.
In general HDR simply provides more detail to a scene. It doesn't magically make it pop like a cartoon. If you go in expecting a grossly saturated image, you're going to be perpetually dissapointed no matter what panel tech you buy.
I'm amazed at how well this has propagated on this site. IPS is hardly a terrible display technology. Assuming you're in a brightly lit room. Or toss a lighting strip on the back if you use it in a darker room. Your use case has an effect on the tech.
No local dimming will hurt the contrast. No denying that. (So will crushing blacks with a VA but that's fine apparently) But given that the average scene in HDR is not mastered at 1000 nits (more in the 300-500 range barring explosions etc) , people saying the colors will be too dim are poorly informed at best.
In general HDR simply provides more detail to a scene. It doesn't magically make it pop like a cartoon. If you go in expecting a grossly saturated image, you're going to be perpetually dissapointed no matter what panel tech you buy.
Something I'm a little confused about:
People saying this TV isn't bright enough for decent HDR, then everyone using the rtings settings where brightness is set to 1.
I know that the brightness setting is the backlight strength. Is that something different from the brightness that is insufficient for HDR?
Brightness set to 1 is the SDR setting for optimal dark/dim room viewing. SDR settings are not equal to HDR settings, many things change. Rtings does not really post HDR settings, either.
People are talking about peak brightness, which is currently recommended to be at 1000 nits (minimum) for best experience. This is a bit subjective, as none of the OLEDs can reach this yet, and they still have some fine HDR. Nevertheless, it is true that HDR uses an absolute and not relative scale for video level, so after you reach peak brightness, everything just clips.
This set (X800D) can reach around 400 nits or so with the backlight cranked to 20.
The issue is that without local dimming, the native contrast ratio remains the same, which is not great for the IPS panel, because with the backlight cranked all the way up, the near blacks and blacks may appear grey and this can cause problems for the 'serious' viewer.
So for HDR, should I be cranking up the brightness?
Uh... You're completely wrong.
I have the 55" version, available in Ireland/UK
I cannot tell any difference with HDR or at least cannot see any improvement. I would love to see recommended settings for the 55", as all sites seem to only have the smaller versions
It does it automatically.
Yeah, but doesn't it actually remember settings for both HDR and non-HDR? So you could still fiddle with the HDR brightness.
Seriously piss off dude. Such an arrogant prick.You guys make me laugh. HDR on an IPS panel with mediocre peak brightness? LOL
Just because you and handful of others are easily impressed doesn't mean that the HDR on that TV is any good. People watch TV in the night and most won't be bothered to buy bias lighting either. You shouldn't have to do all of that just to get a decent picture.
Seriously piss off dude. Such an arrogant prick.
Yes.So I should I leave the brightness settings for HDR at max?
You guys make me laugh. HDR on an IPS panel with mediocre peak brightness? LOL
Just because you and handful of others are easily impressed doesn't mean that the HDR on that TV is any good. People watch TV in the night and most won't be bothered to buy bias lighting either. You shouldn't have to do all of that just to get a decent picture.
Just because you have an axe to grind and have no idea what you're talking about doesn't mean you have something useful to say.
It's how you come across. No need to be little others calling them easily impressed or validating their purchase.Okay I might have came off like a dick but you guys were getting very defensive because I stated why others are unimpressed with HDR on this TV. Nothing I said is inaccurate about the technology behind those panels. My IPS monitor looks very washed next to my VA Sony TV. I am not speaking out of my ass here. Any research will back up what I've been saying.
Yes.
It's how you come across. No need to be little others calling them easily impressed or validating their purchase.
I know VA is better than ips in some regards. But even the VA version of this set pales to high end HDR sets. I'm not stupid. But this tv is half the cost or more compared to those.
You'll have to uninstall and reinstall the app.Anyone use the twitch app on the x800d? I can't log into my account because the code doesn't show up, anyone else have this issue?
Is the 49" X800D a massive step down from the 43" X800D?
HDR Movies score of IPS TVs (such as UJ7700 and Sony X800E) reduced significantly due to poor native contrast.
Is the 49" X800D a massive step down from the 43" X800D?
I stated facts about the topic and the guy said I was wrong then proceeded to insult my intelligence because he had a different opinion. What is wrong about saying IPS panels are worse for HDR than VA, when contrast ratio is the most important aspect of picture quality?
Yeah, but doesn't it actually remember settings for both HDR and non-HDR? So you could still fiddle with the HDR brightness.
So I should I leave the brightness settings for HDR at max?
Anyone TV just stop working? I was playing PS4 and the screen went black but I could still hear sound.
Now it will only turn on with no picture. I tried hard-reset still doesn't work.
Something I'm a little confused about:
People saying this TV isn't bright enough for decent HDR, then everyone using the rtings settings where brightness is set to 1.
I know that the brightness setting is the backlight strength. Is that something different from the brightness that is insufficient for HDR?
Yeah, I was gonna say try some basic troubleshooting. If still no image, time to contact Sony or wherever you bought it from!Interesting. Have you tried another HDMI cable? Another source? What if you turn the TV on and hit the menu button?
Interesting. Have you tried another HDMI cable? Another source? What if you turn the TV on and hit the menu button?
Yes, I have my PC connected as well. No picture just sound
It uses an IPS panel rather than the 43"''s VA panel.
I'm using the 49" in my bedroom facing my bed and it's pretty good, blacks are a bit brighter if the room is completely dark but I usually have a light on so it doesn't bother me.
The 43" would probably work better for a smaller space with confined viewing angles whereas the 49" should work better for a larger room with wider viewing angles, but it's all personal preference.
HDR content looks amazing too.
Do you see the backlight turn on when you turn it on? What happens if you hit the home button on your remote?
I vaguely recall that it is possible to turn off the display on this set.
Because you said they don't work at all.
Then you said the colors would magically not work too based on peak brightness which no set operates at the majority of the time. So you flat out don't understand what peak brightness is for or how HDR is mastered.
So now you're twisting my words. When did I say anything won't work? Is this a joke post?
If you did, you wouldn't be using the TV that you have.
Yep, twisted words indeed.
Question about Amazon Prime 4K movies streaming on this TV. I tried it with the Amazon APP on the TV, but I can't get 4K quality for the UHD movies, I've read that Amazon 4K does not support Andiod. Is it true??
Question about Amazon Prime 4K movies streaming on this TV. I tried it with the Amazon APP on the TV, but I can't get 4K quality for the UHD movies, I've read that Amazon 4K does not support Andiod. Is it true??
Has worked fine for me in the past on my C series model. Internet speed is a factor - 25 mb/s is recommended for 4K.
Worked fine for me too. On a 100/12 connection for reference.
Massive improvement. Get 900E not even a contest.Guys, how does this set compare to the 900E,is it a marked improvement?
Massive improvement. Get 900E not even a contest.