Kill Your Masters
Member
The Xperia UI (or what is left after Lollipop) is so outdated its not even funny anymore. Yawn at this Z3.0.01
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sony Xperia Z4 announced
- Thread starter Chanser
- Start date
- Status
Kill Your Masters
Member
They need a new reason to cut another 1000 workers.
I think this is probably a holding pattern phone. There's no point doing anything bold and then putting a Snapdragon 810 in it, because that's a lemon. So I imagine anything worthwhile is being saved until the gen after.
I want to hear more about if Sony has made the camera better by fixing the post processing than anything. I tried the S6 the other day and it knocks socks off the Z3's camera.
I want to hear more about if Sony has made the camera better by fixing the post processing than anything. I tried the S6 the other day and it knocks socks off the Z3's camera.
Theonik
Member
Not practical unless they make the lens assembly larger, ie thicker. The Lumia that had proper mechanical OIS had to have a pretty substantial camera to accommodate it.
longdi
Banned
This.
Z4 is really a half ass effort.
I hope Sony wise enough not to compete Z4 in the premium phone arena.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
All high end Lumias have proper OIS. You may be thinking on the 1020, which had a huge lump on its backside to accommodate an equally massive 40 megapixel sensor. But that was (and still is) a beast of a camera. The 830 is relatively thin yet it has OIS.
Of course, OIS is still going to fly out of the window if you aim for a >7mm device.
Theonik
Member
With the Z2, Sony decided to do 2 flagships per year rather than their previous 1 per year cycle.
This was to keep up with other makes that refresh every 6 months. In essence this means they only do a major overhaul on the September phones which will be the Z5 but at the same time Sony only does really big changes every couple of years. (gives them more time to bleed less money)
Edit:
Yes I was thinking of the 1020 in particular. The backside wasn't so much the sensor though the sensor was larger and so requires a wider lens too, it was a thicker lens and overal camera assembly that necessitated it.
Now, Sony could do OIS, but it would require them to go thicker or perhaps compromise batteries, neither are things Sony wants at the moment, the former of which I think is a very silly trend in the phone industry, the later of which is understandable. The Z1 was a very balanced and well received phone so it makes sense Sony is milking it as much as they can with their phone division bleeding money as it is. The Z5 is probably going to mix things up though.
Slightly disappointed, as i was waiting for the Z4 to upgrade to from my Z1.
What do we think of the Vizileaks account on Twitter, he has been tweeting about the Z4 for a few days:
https://twitter.com/vizileaks
What do we think of the Vizileaks account on Twitter, he has been tweeting about the Z4 for a few days:
https://twitter.com/vizileaks
High quality audio, not wirless. It's basicallu support for new codecs for lossless audio.
Nightengale
Member
I pretty much just slap Google Now Launcher with a Lollipop theme on my 5.0 Z1, and it's 99% stock.
Sony releases on a six month cycle.
Sigh, it looks no different to the Z3 and even Z2 before it. Sony really have to stop the new flagship every six months. In my anecdotal experience, it's actually quite toxic for them. My friends like their phones; but why bother buying a Z4 now, when in September the Z5 will come out?
I'll stick with my Xperia Play for another year I suppose.
I'll stick with my Xperia Play for another year I suppose.
HideyoshiJP
Member
What is this color they have replaced silver green with?
Not with a SD810
SirMossyBloke
Member
Oh look its an xperia Z1, I mean Z2, sorry I mean Z3.
They're not even trying anymore. No wonder no one wants them.
They're not even trying anymore. No wonder no one wants them.
outunderthestars
Banned
If I could get one of the Z Compacts cheap I'd pick it up in a heartbeat.
I've really grown to love Sony's high end Xperia models recently.
Knowing Sony they'll probably release the Z5 next Thursday so I wouldn't worry about it.
I've really grown to love Sony's high end Xperia models recently.
Knowing Sony they'll probably release the Z5 next Thursday so I wouldn't worry about it.
WorriedCitizen
Member
I will wait for the Z8 series. Still happy with my Z1 compact.
Xperia phones look good, why change it? Samsung hasn't changed their flagship design either.
Would have recommended but just had a mare of a time with the Z3C
Glass cracked after overheating when I was using it one night. I pressed on the hairline fracture and the screen cracked further within 2 and half weeks of purchase. Sent back to O2 - they wanted £85 to repair it. I refused. They advised to send to Sony. Sony took it and wanted £108 saying "It wouldn't have happened that way".
Loyal Sony supporter, never had any issues previously. Refused their offer registering my disgust and then they said "We want £21 to return the now broken phone back to you". Escalated that, saying at no point did the original agent say about a return charge. Waiting to hear back to as to whether my escalation is getting the return fee waivered.
When I get it back I'll just bite the bullet and cover it on my insurance but I'm disgusted. I treat my phones exceptionally well and subjected it to no force or pressure. I'm in the UK.
Buyer beware with the Xperias as I'm reading I am not alone.
Glass cracked after overheating when I was using it one night. I pressed on the hairline fracture and the screen cracked further within 2 and half weeks of purchase. Sent back to O2 - they wanted £85 to repair it. I refused. They advised to send to Sony. Sony took it and wanted £108 saying "It wouldn't have happened that way".
Loyal Sony supporter, never had any issues previously. Refused their offer registering my disgust and then they said "We want £21 to return the now broken phone back to you". Escalated that, saying at no point did the original agent say about a return charge. Waiting to hear back to as to whether my escalation is getting the return fee waivered.
When I get it back I'll just bite the bullet and cover it on my insurance but I'm disgusted. I treat my phones exceptionally well and subjected it to no force or pressure. I'm in the UK.
Buyer beware with the Xperias as I'm reading I am not alone.
Not sure between the Z2 and Z3 (although the efficiency on the Z3 more than made up for it), but I wouldn't be shocked if the reason for the Z4 was to give the 810 more room to breathe. It needs it.
I own the Z3 and think it is an awesome phone. Using it for about 5 months now and have yet to discover something that displeases me (which is a first in my history of phones). Z4 building further on that model is not a bad thing imo.
It is logical Sony wants to push out these things at a faster rate, since it can be useful for marketing purposes to eventually match the numbers Samsung and Apple are in (6).
It is logical Sony wants to push out these things at a faster rate, since it can be useful for marketing purposes to eventually match the numbers Samsung and Apple are in (6).
SirMossyBloke
Member
Theonik
Member
Thickness:
Z2: 8.2mm
Z3: 7.3mm (-10.9%)
Z4: 6.9mm (5.5% reduction in thickness, 5.1% reduction in battery)
The Z1 was a monster.
A few jumps without a parachute.
Many "oops" I dropped it moments. All kinds of surfaces, asphalt and marmor stairs being popular.
Tons of "imma play with uncas phone in the wettest most violent ways"
And finally a toilet visit cracked the sucker open and down in the water with its Outer shell open. It died but woke up after 3 days in a bag of rice but by then I had already bought a Z3 so I gave it away.
Only phone that have managed to survive that much punishment was my old 3310 Nokia.
Edit: when I think about it my S2 was durable as hell as well.
biggersmaller
Banned
I've always been a fan of the Z series. Sadly, the C never came to Verizon. If there ever would be a reason for me to jump ship to T-Mobile, it would be a U.S. Z4C release.
The horror stories on the glass randomly cracking on the z3c is why I ultimately never bought one. I'm glad I didn't ad the s6 edge is amazing.
juliushandle
Member
Looks exactly the same as the previous version. Good luck to Sony trying to get the carriers to buy the same phone with a different name. At least Samsung has shrunken the bezel size with each Galaxy S release.
Indeed. And before this incident I'd be one of the guys to read my post and say 'Well it's not happened to me yet' *knock on wood*
Now it's happened to me and the response I've had from Sony absolutely sucks. I'm rational enough to say you may get lucky or the Z4 may be different, but it's soured me from the brand that's for sure and now I'm concerned even when fixed / given a replacement on insurance I'm going to be spending the next 2 years of my contract staring down the same issue.
Yeah, I heard about that. Them having customer service as bad as Samsung in the UK is a double kick in the teeth.
DoktorEvil
Banned
God, I really wish Sony and Sprint would come to an agreement and finally put their phones on the carrier. I want to try and experience how awesome these phones are.
Dirtyshubb
Member
I have had some issues with Xperias but luckily nothing that wasnt fixed.
Between me and my wife we have had 5 xperias, 2 have been fine (Wifes U and J) but I did have problems with my T (Suddenly stopped working). Because of problems with T Mobile and them duplicating my contract (So 2 bills) instead of cancelling it and starting a new one like agreed plus some other stuff I cancelled the whole lot (Me and my wife both left them because of it) and changed to 3 and got myself a brand new Xperia Z and had no problems with that for 2 years.
Very recently I have got myself a Z3 and while using it the screen suddenly went funny, like a haze had gone over it and lines were going across the screen in line with whatever was displayed on it. Contacted 3 and they sent me to Sony so I explained the problem and they set up a repair order. While sorting out for it to be sent back (Needed to get a sim adapter to use my wifes J since I gave her my Z) the screen then just stopped working, even though the phone still worked as I was listening to music on it. I was worried that since the problem had changed since I reported it that Sony might be funny about it but after a week they sent me a brand new Z3 as a replacement with no issues.
So while my issues were a real pain at the time, for me in the end it all worked out well.
longdi
Banned
Disgusting reduction in batt capacity.
I think the race to a slimmer chassis will cause more breaking glass. Z1 Z2 don't see such issues
I don't doubt it. My last two phones were the Xperia SP and Xperia Z1C - both fine and no issues. I'm just genuinely annoyed that I've been blown out by Sony and feel effectively it's my word against theres. If I had dropped it or it had been my fault I'm the first to man up and say 'fair enough' but this effectively self cracked and they're flat out saying 'nope'
Anyway sorry to thread derail, Im out. Just pray this Z4 is better I guess.
- Status