SymbolicGamer
Banned
It's funny because all Microsoft has to do is show how the family sharing thing works on Xbox One.
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This would have dwarfed the response to Tretton's statements if he instead just said "and here we will present a tutorial to our game-sharing policy."
I still don't understand everyone's reactions to this, since there are many DRM clients, such as Steam, which do not allow any lending or selling of purchased games, where as the Xbox One does...
Plus no one complains about games bought from PSN/XBLA not being able to be sold/lent out, where as the Xbox One fixes that...
Plus no one complains about games bought from PSN/XBLA not being able to be sold/lent out, where as the Xbox One fixes that...
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Its a simple, understandable joke that even people wholly ignorant of the video game industry can laugh at. Which is way its so terribly effective against Microsoft. Also see Lewis Black comparing it to Nazism on the Daily Show.
Steam isn't a platform, it's a digital store/library. You're not forced to use it to game on Windows.
That's not true, you can have two people play PSN games at once already.
Canis lupus
Member
Why do people keep comparing digital with physical content.
Please stop with the steam comparisons. It has been explained to death so go search and enlighten yourself.
How far you've come, Sony marketing.
I dare them to air the sharing vid on TV. It might be iffy without context, but still.
They could always alter it a little to make sense. I want them to slam MS. Full on smear campaign.
SymbolicGamer
Banned
People like to overreact. It also doesn't help that there are ton of misconceptions about the console. Give it time, and people will come around.
It's in the GB video posted earlier. Around the 3:39:00 mark. Funny stuff.
nephilimdj
Member
Actually amazing how big the views are on that channel
Top Playstation
"PlayStation 4
29,284,923 views
3 months ago"
Top Nintendo
"Wii U - Nintendo Land Launch TV Commercial
5,977,295 views | 7 months ago"
Marketing team have done a fantastic job.
Top Playstation
"PlayStation 4
29,284,923 views
3 months ago"
Top Nintendo
"Wii U - Nintendo Land Launch TV Commercial
5,977,295 views | 7 months ago"
Marketing team have done a fantastic job.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
It mocks how complicated the process is on the xbone compared to ps4. The fact that people are still trying to figure out how it will work says it all.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
saw this on sbnation
That's your response right there Microsoft.
That's your response right there Microsoft.
So? I think people are allowed to not care about that if it doesn't concern them.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Puts things in perspective lol
I wonder how many caveats will be attached.
MS has one of the worst marketing teams ever. I could do a better job. Fuck, anyone could.
Nintendo has been following a hard sell strategy?
Hell no. Their lacking inability to hard sell to both consumers and game developers is one of their biggest flaws.
People complained a lot during the early years of Steam. We stopped complaining once they got competitve with frequent steam sales.
velociraptor
Junior Member
So that Microsoft Engineer who posted anonymously said Microsoft are pushing for a digital future as it brings back money to the publishers and developers. This in turn means cheaper games for the consumers.
How exactly is sharing one game with ten people going to help any of that?
That's 10 potentials copies reduced to 1!
CaptainTiptop
Member
Steam has plenty of competition, though. If you're PC gaming, you have plenty of choice for where to get your games and some of those are completely DRM free. Greenmangaming (which allows you to trade-in non-Steam games), Origin, GOG, Humble Bundle, etc. Steam sales and a much better offline mode than 24 hour check-ins help too.
The Xbone, however, is a closed platform with no competition.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Wasn't that debunked as bullshit? But yeah, it does fly in the face of the helping out the publishers thing.
WhyIsTheRumGone
Banned
Even if they did, it will do fuck-all. You can share the games, but 10 people will not be able to put in $6 for a $60 game and then just abuse that license. It's not going to work like that.
dapperbandit
Banned
The video still makes me smile.
But not as much as the official highlights video for the xbox one reveal, with the massively red like bar and the URL that ends in "ps4"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0HgsIf-ps4
But not as much as the official highlights video for the xbox one reveal, with the massively red like bar and the URL that ends in "ps4"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0HgsIf-ps4
Its a shame about Nintendo - with Wii U it appeals neither to my hardcore gamer nor casual gamer side.
As much as I detest MS' approach with the One and am going for PS4, I can at least appreciate the games if I were willing to put up with the endless list of crap attached
That's what I was thinking. Example, five friends buy one game together and share it. How does that help publishers? I've seen comments by people saying, "I'm getting Xbone because my friends and I can buy a game together and share it."
Please stop posting regarding anything about Steam it is not the same. Really this is getting so damn annoying.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Right, and what about retail purchases? Why are they treated the same as DD services?
*sees post history*
lol, ok, I'm done here.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
No its not. It'll backfire horribly once the console comes out and we learn the giant BUT to the claim.
So i've been reading up on some interviews and what seems to be the case is that yes you can share a game with 9 other people but you can't use the online component as a lender nor can you simultaneously play the same game. Futhermore games that require an always-on connection (Destiny for example) can't be shared.
note: this is my interpretation of the info given.
Uno Venova
Banned
what an interesting post history
That might have been a poor choice of words. I just mean a kind of arrogant stonewalling in interviews. The Reggie interview on GTTV, and whoever was interviewed by Patrick from Giantbomb were both really terrible.
I'm pretty cynical when it comes to PR, I don't think Sony or Valve actually care any more about the audience than the other two, they just think being honest and cheeky is more effective PR, and I think they're right.
Of course Reggie and Mattrick are absolutely capable of doing the same thing, they're just subject to an alternative PR direction, and it's one that is counter to what that 'core' gaming audience wants I think.
There are issues with the platforms, all three, but I think the greater issue in MS's case is that they're viewed as being dicks about it.
Wolves Evolve
Member
Don't take this the wrong way, but this has been discussed and debunked in hundreds of threads all week.
In short: physical discs are the topic, not digital titles.
There is a reason MILLIONS of people are angry at Microsoft and aren't enthused about the sharing yet until they know more about how it will work. Either they're all stupid and they don't see how it's just like Steam-but-better... or (the more likely answer) people wanna see the receipts right now.
Manmademan
Member
Sony also has digital sharing in addition to Disc based sharing with no restrictions. I don't think Microsoft really wants people getting too detailed about it's sharing strategy anyway- they've been very vague about how it actually works since the reveal.
methane47
Member
lol amazing
There is already a BUT. "But you can't play it simultaneously with the other 10 people".
Many People wouldn't each put in however much (6$ or whatever) to only be able to play it when other people aren't. Not to mention the MP crowd not being able to play if other people are.
Of course, there might be even more 'buts' to this that haven't been revealed but it's already a bit of a mine field (and a great way to cost friendships
- I mean everyone who puts some money towards it will feel like they are the owners and thus fights could happen)rhophiehalul78
Member
well, thats certainly one of their best ads
CadetMahoney
Member
I never noticed this, any details on this multi not free anymore?
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
everyone seems to mention steam when talking about xbone, but the fact is pc gamers arent forced to use it pc gamers dont have to use steam at all and there is plenty of other options avaliable to you which dont involve drm or if u do use steam u can just play it offline anyway., where as if you wanna play a xbone game u are forced to use there drm and other crap.
i was hanging out with my friends who i'd say are fairly normal people, spend more time working or partying and rarely any time on the internet. and they wanted to show me this video. i would have never seen something like this coming earlier in the year. turning such an absolutely mundane thing (that people are historically used to) into a highly successful advertisement.
Manmademan
Member
multiplayer on PS4 requires PS+, with the exception of titles like FFXIV that have a separate subscription, or free to play multiplayer titles. Online passes are dead, however and won't be used.
Graphics Horse
Member
They announced Online multiplayer on PS4 as being a benefit of Playstation+, it was very cleverly worded and timed to cause the least commotion.
Apparently SOE's f2p titles (Planetside 2 and the other one) do not require PS+, so some games might be allowed to opt out of it.
Stone Ocean
Member
And I still don't understand why people defending this POS keep comparing it to Steam when it's fucking apples and oranges.
CadetMahoney
Member
ah ok thx. Guess they slipped that one by quite well with minimal damage.
TONX
Distinguished Air Superiority
The xbox side missed a few underlying facts, like only 1 person can play at a time, not region-free, and friends must be on your friends list for at least 30 days. But hey, that's too much to put in a 10 second ad.