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duck_sauce
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Cringe, boring, cliche and stupid dialogue, I agree.
Not woke.
calico
Member
Bojji
Gold Member
The original post had this nonsense;
The actual ending is this (Major spoilers):
Arjun becomes The King and takes Nitya's hand:
A lot different to what people try to post.
My interpretation is that they are both dead becoming part of the Hyades stars (notice his cheek and the ticker of the club earlier in the flashback). You can see Nitya pulls on Arjuns hand too suggesting she might have died earlier and then Arjun jumps out the window and dies too being together forever as a star going along with the theme of "The sun is forever". It's Arjun dying turning into the king (gold) it's purgatory. The true ending where he still turns gold saying "I was better" is again purgatory but he throws the sun away and flashing police lights show suggesting he pulls back from death back to the crime scene and not joining Nitya.
The gay thing is just people's imagination too and people are relying on vague stuff of Sebastian saying some effeminate stuff like "freind, partner" or whatever. People see what they want to see. there are other interpretations. Some say that Nitya was the one cheating with Sebastian (the flashbacks only shows the beard and that's why the flashback of sex with Nitya is painful for Arjun, because it's actually Sebastian not him. That he caught them in that hotel room where he shouts "where are you" and in one flashback Sebastian is humming with his arms up as if in a shower.
Kiira on Carcosa is in Arjuns mind, she is an AI on Carcosa at that point that Arjun corrupts and makes cruel imaging that she took her from him not that they were lesbians. The Kiira in the real world is just a work colleague and nothing else is stated clearly.
A lot different to what people try to post.
My interpretation is that they are both dead becoming part of the Hyades stars (notice his cheek and the ticker of the club earlier in the flashback). You can see Nitya pulls on Arjuns hand too suggesting she might have died earlier and then Arjun jumps out the window and dies too being together forever as a star going along with the theme of "The sun is forever". It's Arjun dying turning into the king (gold) it's purgatory. The true ending where he still turns gold saying "I was better" is again purgatory but he throws the sun away and flashing police lights show suggesting he pulls back from death back to the crime scene and not joining Nitya.
The gay thing is just people's imagination too and people are relying on vague stuff of Sebastian saying some effeminate stuff like "freind, partner" or whatever. People see what they want to see. there are other interpretations. Some say that Nitya was the one cheating with Sebastian (the flashbacks only shows the beard and that's why the flashback of sex with Nitya is painful for Arjun, because it's actually Sebastian not him. That he caught them in that hotel room where he shouts "where are you" and in one flashback Sebastian is humming with his arms up as if in a shower.
Kiira on Carcosa is in Arjuns mind, she is an AI on Carcosa at that point that Arjun corrupts and makes cruel imaging that she took her from him not that they were lesbians. The Kiira in the real world is just a work colleague and nothing else is stated clearly.
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The Sum of Zero
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So you have no argument in response to that poster, gotcha.
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I collect VHS tapes
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Poor Start for PS5 Exclusive Saros as First Sales Data Emerges
Arjun 'avin a laugh?
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Crm114
Member
Man it sucks we can't just have an awesome game come out without having some kind of stupidity that distracts from it.
Like ok make the guy a horrible abusive dude fine but now you make him gay and then his wife becomes lesbian lol thats 100% deliberate. And for what to cater to the 5% who are LGtv of which prob only half even care about crap like that being in the game.
Just make good games for the majority of your clientele and stfu about all that other crap.
Like ok make the guy a horrible abusive dude fine but now you make him gay and then his wife becomes lesbian lol thats 100% deliberate. And for what to cater to the 5% who are LGtv of which prob only half even care about crap like that being in the game.
Just make good games for the majority of your clientele and stfu about all that other crap.
playbignbox
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People on this site are saying the problem is the genre being niche, lmao, while Slay the Empire 2 launched early access a few weeks ago and has already sold over 5 million copies.Poor Start for PS5 Exclusive Saros as First Sales Data Emerges
Arjun 'avin a laugh?
KanKamAndNob
Gold Member
I remember when Schedule 1 also did well and that game had a budget of a company lunch.
MacReady13
Member
He's gay in Saros?
Crm114
Member
Apparently he cheats on his wife with another man which is pretty gay if you ask me
Bojji
Gold Member
MacReady13
Member
1st I'm hearing of this! So his wife is a rug muncher and he's a poo jabber?! How in the FUCK did they get married in the 1st place then?
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Everyone is bisexual, i guess.
Bernardougf
Member
Every character in the fcking tps rogue-like game is bisexual or gay .. but is not woke ... lol mmkay
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MazingerDUDE
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Bernardougf
Member
Yes.. he cheats on his wife with another man.. than kills that man to hide the truth .. then the wife goes gay too while they are separated...
am I reading this correctly?
Pretty much your normal day to day life in the real world. Not woke at all.
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MazingerDUDE
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am I reading this correctly?
This does not happen. Rahul Kohli confirmed that this doesn't happen in the story. It's people just reading into things too much.
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duck_sauce
Member
See me previous statements. You are more than welcome to argue against it.
"Lol mmkay" is something I guess
GymWolf
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Friends since childhood apparently, one of those couples that form very early and after a while they are still together for routine more than for love.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
So let me get this right.
This is a game about a chocolate speedway rider and his vagitarian wife?
This is a game about a chocolate speedway rider and his vagitarian wife?
Soodanim
Member
This current page feels like people reacting for the first time with "O M G I CAN'T BELIEVE IT" and
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Three
being the only adult in the room calmly saying "You appear to have been misled, watch this and see what actually happens."
If what I'm seeing is right then this whole thing is overblown ragebait GAF fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
If what I'm seeing is right then this whole thing is overblown ragebait GAF fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
RafterXL
Member
Except everything Three is saying is his own made up headcannon and it's not true. He's given his own interpretation, which just happens to be completely different from everyone else, including major game publications and bunch of Redditors who think this site is a cancer and would not be reinforcing our version of this story if it were inaccurate.
He's not being an "adult" he's just being contrarian, and there are literal write ups about what actually happens in the story, in this thread, from people who have beaten the game that prove as much.
Yet you think yours is not made up headcannon and is absolutely true? Even when Rahul Kohli the person made to act out and show the emotions of the script is saying that's not what happens? You can watch the video yourself and make up your own mind Arjun takes Nityas hand in the ending, and he isn't gay
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Thebonehead
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Wolzard
Member
Yeah Saros story sounds terrible
should we be worried about Jason and Lucia's story in GTA 6 guys?
Given the current state of the industry, Jason could very well be a bad, abusive man who mistreats Lucia.
At some point, she's going to betray him and turn him in to the police or kill him.
Bernardougf
Member
Hunrum shure... its all in our minds... dont give two fucks about what they said now that it got some push back... you want to ignore the absolutely gay vibes in the writing be my guess.. I wont.
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Bernardougf
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Im not arguing the obvious.. you want to look it and say its not woke, its your prerogative and opinion .. Ill keep mine
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duck_sauce
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You don't want to argue the obvious. Hmmm kay.
I have my opinion and you have yours. Hmmm kay.
So at least we can agree about something being woke is not based on facts, but personal opinion?
Did I understand that right?
Gonzito
Gold Member
No. Concord is objectively Woke, same goes for Spiderman 2 and many other games.
Dont play the gaslighting game my friend, is not going to work
Bernardougf
Member
Well of course its about opinion ... you want too look at this gay fetish fest and say its not woke.. its your opinion maybe for you woke is something even more ridiculous.... for me its more than enough.
Woke its not some law set in stone. Its a interpretation of several things, politics, sex, gender and etc.
duck_sauce
Member
Im not playing anything. He made a statement and I responded. I even ask if I understood him right.
Do you lack basic communication skills or do you want to antagonize?
Gonzito
Gold Member
duck_sauce
Member
We can agree on that. That is refreshing to hear. A lot of people in here talk about woke "slop" as if it is a stone hard fact and not personal opinion.
Fine by me, but if you want to actually get a more mature understanding of the game before coming up with your own interpretation play the game or read the book The King in Yellow which the game is heavily based on. A book that again is hard to interpret but offers great insight into the themes of the game.Sorry, I would love to believe you, but I'm on the side of the mob.
In it you will find the same things, Carcosa, Sol Nigredo/alchemy signifying dissolution of the body/purgatory, descent into madness and death, "the stranger/Phantom of truth" or Pallid Mask who people believe is just an avatar of the king himself in the book (who some think is "S"/Seb in the game because he says he knows him better and asks who he was before disappearing and Arjun stares at you the player).
You can play the game and read the book to come up with your own interpretation or you can say "he's a gay cuck who's actually obsessed with a woman" with the mob if it makes you feel better about not playing it, it's up to you but Rahul Kohli has said him sleeping or being attracted to seb isn't part of the story at all and you can see the ending for yourself in the vid if you want to spoil it for yourself where Nitya doesn't leave Arjun for Kayla. That's all horseshit. Arjun and Nitya become a sun "forever" unless you choose to "let go".
duck_sauce
Member
As I said before. For me woke is defined by virtue signaling and a moral high ground that gets preached wether you asked or not. I don't like that one bit.
In the case of concord it had butt ugly characters. I didn't like the look or the design. The game did not interest me so I never played it. I honestly don't know if it has virtue signaling. If it does, I would call it woke.
Best example of a woke game would be DA Veilguard or Dustborn. Those where obnoxious.
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Gonzito
Gold Member
So then you agree that woke exist. Then why being so dismissive when we many of us think this games has woke content? I dont understand. Help me understand it
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duck_sauce
Member
Because a lot of discussions center about sexual orientation. That's as old as humanity and has been in games since forever. I don't care about hetero, bi, or homosexuality. People who call that woke only come across as homophobic.
Woke virtue signaling is what should be criticized
"Gay vibes" that don't make sense at all if people are using the Banyan tree flashbacks where the dialogue is a woman. Sure people may have picked up or interpreted gay vibes from just "partner, friend" or "what was I to you" but I think that tells you more about their own interpretation of the world and wanting gay things in the game. Others saw things differently and the people involved in creating the game have even said Arjun wasn't in a relationship with Seb. Yet you still want to see it how you see it. Cool, but you can stop pretending it's somehow "more true" or not headcannon though.
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calico
Member
You dodged a bullet here.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Yes but please let's try to find a middle ground here, you and I both know that in the last years the woke agenda has been pushing homosexuality in every TV show, movie, videogame and any sort of media so it makes sense to be cautious when consuming media as a result. Its a logical reaction
Sony has been pushing the woke agenda in many of their games, this is a fact and we have countless examples, Spiderman 2, The Last of us 2, Ragnarok, Concord etc.
So in a game where you shoot aliens in the space and the story is 5%of the game, seeing this type of content again is a fucking huge red flag
How is this conclusion incoherent? I think it makes sense to come to this conclusion because Sony has been doing it over and over for a while now
I am trying to be reasonable here, there is no doubt in my mind that this more signal pandering. There was no need to make the wife bisexual and the main character sexuality ambiguous. Its again the same pattern for God's sake
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Interfectum
Gold Member
Wait... it gets worse? The dude cheated on his wife with another man? So they are both gay? lol wtf.
calico
Member
If someone makes 10 unconnected movies in a row where the only black person in the movie is the villain, is he racist for doing it or are people racist for noticing and taking issue with it?