Oh I'm not surprised I've been following this thread from the beginning. I'm just asking because I want know where I can get it early near me.
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SPOILERS Pokemon Sun/Moon Begins to leak on 4Chan
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Oh I'm not surprised I've been following this thread from the beginning. I'm just asking because I want know where I can get it early near me.
PreyingShark
Member
Neverrrmind. Just remembered something.
So like is there a happiness checker?
So like is there a happiness checker?
Subtervotion
Member
I doubt it's any crucial data like new pokemon, moves, abilities, etc. If anything its behind the scenes stuff that doesn't matter to us. Gen 5 had that thing where roms wouldn't allow any of your pokemon to gain xp. It's probably just anti piracy stuff.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I'm guessing the game is saying update available which could make the game refuse to boot as it tries to download a non-existent update or it gets connection errors for being outdated.
It also apparently doesn't mean anything as apparently dumping carts and converting to cia (for installation via cfw 3DS) can destroy version info (it also destroys unique headers carts have...players using flashcarts have been banned for multiple unique carts being online at the same time i.e. all the same rom dump).
Edit: From IRC apparently:
Yay bad dumps.
Shadow Broker
Banned
I agree. It's part of the reason why Dragonite is tied with Weavile as my all time favorite.
I just want to play these games already.
That's a mess. Ah well if it's anything important we will find out.
You're given an everstone for free by Ilima if you go to his house at some point in the game, I didn't know this was a thing until postgame but the unlock condition could be any point after completing his trial.
You can also buy Everstones for like 16 BP at the Battle Royal Dome. And they may be held by wild Pokemon as in the past, not sure.
UberTag
Member
Roggenrola hold Everstones at a 50% rate just as they have in the past.
They're found in abundance on Ten Carat Hill towards the end of Melemele Island.
Geodude have them as well albeit at a more typical 5% rate.
After going through the raw encounter table dump from @SciresM over the weekend it now turns out that Goodra, Garchomp and Vanilluxe are NOT exclusive pokemon as I had believed. And, as a result, presumably Flygon, Metagross and Gigalith are in the clear as well.
As it turns out, Goomy, Gabite, Vanillish and Castform show up in the wild as part of an additional SOS encounter dynamic I'm not entirely clear on.
As such, I would submit that the ONLY version exclusives are as follows...
SUN
Alolan Ninetales
Braviary
Buzzwole
Carracosta
Kartana
Passimian
Rampardos
Solgaleo
Turtonator
Whimsicott
Lycanroc (superior midday form) - can be caught in Moon, just not evolved there
MOON
Alolan Sandslash
Archeops
Bastiodon
Celesteela
Drampa
Lilligant
Lunala
Mandibuzz
Oranguru
Pheromosa
Lycanroc (inferior midnight form) - can be caught in Sun, just not evolved there
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Just a read a post on /vp/ claiming that the illegal dumps aren't incomplete and that showing incorrect version numbering is normal for cia game packages.
lol so its nothing?
Spinosaurus
Member
Taking that into account, does this mean this is the exclusives list?
Sun
Solgaleo
Kartana
Buzzwole
Passimian
Turtonator
Whimsicott
Braviary
Rampardos
Carracosta
Moon
Lunala
Celesteela
Pheromosa
Oranguru
Drampa
Lilligant
Mandibuzz
Bastiodon
Archeops
Correct me if I'm off or forgetting some.
ArchedThunder
Banned
UberTag
Member
Believe you nailed all of them except for the Alolan ice variants for Ninetales and Sandslash... I've updated my post above to reflect everything.
If you're implying what I think you are, you're mistaken. Going to the Sun world in Moon will not allow you to catch Alolan Vulpix, for example.
The Fossil selection also doesn't change between dimensions. You're stuck with Plume and Shield in Moon either way.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The fact that Decidueye flies in its Z-move despite the fact that it can't learn fly is going to drive me nuts forever.
Gengar no longer has Levitate, but you take pictures of a Gengar zooming around the room.
UberTag
Member
Really? Odd that they'd apply some exclusivity restrictions and not others. I'll reflect those changes then.
Am I correct in assuming that the other 8 pokemon - Braviary, Drampa, Lilligant, Mandibuzz, Oranguru, Passimian, Turtonator and Whimsicott - are available in both games provided you dimension hop?
And, if not, what's the point of even making that a thing except to troll and confuse?
I'm assuming they're all exclusive, I haven't tested but I'm gonna say they are. I'll check something like Cottonee in a few moments.
The difference with Lycanroc is that it's an alternate form, not an entirely different Pokemon.
The dimension hop still lets you enter the other time of day for time based evolutions and (from what I currently understand) Zygarde Cells... I think some zygarde cells only appear at certain times.
Edit: Also, you'll notice Cottonee doesn't appear in any of the raw encounter tables, which are from Moon
And Lycanroc just specifies Lycanroc in general, not a particular form, in the wild encounters.
Edit2: Still just Petilil in the Sun dimension on Moon as expected.
Gamefreak sure have been lewd this gen.
UberTag
Member
Man, that's going to confuse people fierce. You can jump dimensions to what they represent is the other game but none of the pokemon are different, none of the shops offer anything new and all of the trainers act as if you've beaten them before. But hey, it's daylight now. It's like you set your clock ahead 12 hours. That's cool, right?
there's plenty of wink wink stuff, and
rotomdex has the hots for the first trial captain
Dragoshi1
Member
*Wipes sweat*
Lewdest Pokemon game yet? Most likely. This and the Lillie's bed quote, DAAANG.
UberTag
Member
You can't breed UBs but you will be catching multiples of certain ones to complete quests.
MaximumSpider
Banned
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Alright, cool. I'm getting Moon, but I really want a Buzzwole. Please don't anyone tell me they took out GTS or something.
Spinosaurus
Member
Is it true that you can only get the starters' signature moves (and by extension, z moves) with a heart scale?
Dumb if true.
Dumb if true.
Zomba13
Member
I don't think so. That would be stupid.
It's got to be on evolve or something right?
They learn their signature upon evolution.
It learns it immediately upon evolution. Other evolutionary lines do it as well, e.g. Vikavolt learns Thunderbolt.
Spinosaurus
Member
Well that answers that, was told otherwise but I needed confirmation. Cheers.
Which ones can be caught multiple times and which ones can't?
The12thGripper
Member
MaximumSpider
Banned
We've made it this far. Only a couple more days.
I'm so afraid of neglecting Animal Crossing when his is out
The UB-02s and UB-04s can be caught in multiples, though how many differs based on the version.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
Im at 20 hours playtime and I jussst finished Mallows trial on Akala... I still think I got an hour and a half till Olivia and thats not including if Team Skull gets in the way in the meantime.
I have been taking my time and exploring though.
The team i will be using for moon
http://imgur.com/lrlAniV
R.I.P half of my team if i face a dark type trainer though, haha.
You're kind already screwed, everything has bite and pursuit lol
SpiceMelange
Member
By the way for effective SOS chaining, I suggest you guys prepare yourself a smeargle with false swipe, recycle, a damage move and a recovery move.
False swipe will put the pokemon at 1 hp, making it call for help often and it will also be your move to waste turns if the pokemon doesn't call for help. A recovery move to counteract residual damage, like giga drain or draining kiss, a damage move to progress through the chains (ideally something opposite from the type chart to your recovery move if it has a damage component that way your smeargle will be more rounded for different pokemon types). For ghost pokemons (as false swipe is a normal move) I suggest you use a second smeargle with odor sleuth and a recovery move that damages like draining kiss.
By holding a leppa berry and using recycle as your pokemon eat the berry you will have infinite PP, so you can chain as long as you want.
I have not tested it, but Munchlax on route 1 should have recycle for you to sketch.
You get the false swipe TM early on (beating the first kahuna).
Also I suggest you EV train the smeargle for HP/Speed so it can withstand hits and sweep the helper pokemon without fear of the chain breaking.
False swipe will put the pokemon at 1 hp, making it call for help often and it will also be your move to waste turns if the pokemon doesn't call for help. A recovery move to counteract residual damage, like giga drain or draining kiss, a damage move to progress through the chains (ideally something opposite from the type chart to your recovery move if it has a damage component that way your smeargle will be more rounded for different pokemon types). For ghost pokemons (as false swipe is a normal move) I suggest you use a second smeargle with odor sleuth and a recovery move that damages like draining kiss.
By holding a leppa berry and using recycle as your pokemon eat the berry you will have infinite PP, so you can chain as long as you want.
I have not tested it, but Munchlax on route 1 should have recycle for you to sketch.
You get the false swipe TM early on (beating the first kahuna).
Also I suggest you EV train the smeargle for HP/Speed so it can withstand hits and sweep the helper pokemon without fear of the chain breaking.
Only three days to go. Truthfully the game leaking the pokemon and stats have made the wait much easier for me.
UberTag
Member
This is phenomenal advice. I should be fine having a 0 HP Abra synchronizer in my party lead spot to secure the nature I want once I've closed out the chain with a capture, correct?
Just as an addendum, once you've buillt up a stockpile of Adrenaline Orbs, the recycle contingency isn't all that necessary as you can continually throw them to stall during the same encounter and it won't deplete your stock. That's another good way to pass the time while you're waiting for successful SOS cries without depleting PPs from False Swipe or another move.
MannyToons
Member
Alright let's not go here again...
SpiceMelange
Member
It should, but I can't say for certain. There's been exception to synchronize in the past like roaming pokemons.
You need to kill the pokemons for the chain to progress (can't have more than 2 pokemons on a side) , you're going to need PP anyway for your damage move.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
Welp, Olivia is RIGHT after Mallow... so Id say round the 20 hour mark
Why is wimpod so damn hard to catch? I snuck on the first one by using Tauros but when it ran away it hasn't respawned!!!
Is it one a day or something?
Why is wimpod so damn hard to catch? I snuck on the first one by using Tauros but when it ran away it hasn't respawned!!!
Is it one a day or something?
Oh come on, the art I posted was very tame! Tame I say!!
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