The game we call "Final Fantasy Adventure" in the US was called "Mystic Quest" in Europe.
The game we call "Final Fantasy Mystic Quest" in the US was "Mystic Quest Legend" in Europe.
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Square announces Seiken Densetsu (Mana series) remake for iOS/AND/Vita, ARPG, not-F2P
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The game we call "Final Fantasy Adventure" in the US was called "Mystic Quest" in Europe.
The game we call "Final Fantasy Mystic Quest" in the US was "Mystic Quest Legend" in Europe.
CamHostage
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It's a little cheap-looking, but as long as the Vita game allows you to switch off the mobile touch play (and it sounds like it does, or at least it allows button play if not a full removal of the touch graphics?) then I'm happy to have this be the start of something on Vita. Square could have put its iOS ports on Vita for a long time now (Chrono Trigger and all those FF remakes would have been great additions to the platform,) I hope this helps put Vita in that same space of the workshop.
Yeah, nice catch... not promising there either. These ports are probably on Unity (Square used it for its FF remakes, right?), I know relatively little 3D Vita games on Unity have shipped but does anybody know if Unity cleans up at all once you focus on a final output of a Vita version of a project?
Well, it's not the way we'd want SD5 to come about, for sure. I'm sacriligeously OK with mobile being its future or at least a big part of Mana's path forward, but Square should show this series more love than just mobile games using shared assets. (Especially these shared assets...) But hopefully this does well and fortunes turn and they do whatever they can to give Secret of Mana something close to the remake it has richly deserved after all these years?
Yeah, nice catch... not promising there either. These ports are probably on Unity (Square used it for its FF remakes, right?), I know relatively little 3D Vita games on Unity have shipped but does anybody know if Unity cleans up at all once you focus on a final output of a Vita version of a project?
Well, it's not the way we'd want SD5 to come about, for sure. I'm sacriligeously OK with mobile being its future or at least a big part of Mana's path forward, but Square should show this series more love than just mobile games using shared assets. (Especially these shared assets...) But hopefully this does well and fortunes turn and they do whatever they can to give Secret of Mana something close to the remake it has richly deserved after all these years?
GhostTrick
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Android hm ? I guess Square Enix might bring it to Steam if it gets localized, especially with a PS4 release.
Original FFA. Sword of Mana reception in Japan was.. rather "mixed".
Sir_Crocodile
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DQV has had two remakes just from square. Prince of Persia has the SNES one and Prince of Persia Classic.
TheMoon
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Same. Also happy to get new renditions of the music and it looks they did bring back Chocobro so that's a plus.
Hmmm...for SD1 this is kinda okay, it wasn't that much of a looker to begin with, but for SD2 and SD3 this will be severe visual downgrade.
Nevertheless, I love the games, so anything new is good, I guess.
Those were the interesting bits. There were more questions and details about Rise of Mana stuff and collaborations later in the interview. Didn't really want to keep reading so I dunno if there might be more stuff there!
Yes two different games but the titles are related and confusing by region. This remake is:
JP: Final Fantasy Gaiden: Seiken Densetsu
NA: Final Fantasy Adventure
EU: Mystic Quest
The SNES FF spinoff is:
JP: Final Fantasy USA
NA: Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
EU: Mystic Quest Legend
Oops. Edited! And this is why it's not a good idea to use weird and different naming conventions for each region. >_>;
donutzsick
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glad it's not f2p!
DarkLordMalik
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This kinda sucks for me as I loved Sword of Mana. I heard the original FFA had a much darker tone, but maybe it works for others.
TheMoon
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nope
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (Famicom) got remade for the Super Famicom (Mystery of the Emblem) and then again for the DS (Shadow Dragon).
AcademicSaucer
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yeah.
CamHostage
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To be fair, there already is an authentic remake of Seiken Densetsu 2/Secret of Mana on mobile (though not Seiken Densetsu 3, oddly.) I'm kind of OK with whatever-the-hell-they-do-to-it remakes if the original is out there somehow (kids will be kids and they don't seem to like pop's pixels in their games, so give both what they want and things can move along) though obviously I'd prefer greater platform choices than mobile.
GoldandBlue
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Looks fine to me but then again I like low poly look.
there is nothing about Sword of Mana that is better than FFA. seriously.
Completely subjective.
Finale Fireworker
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I wonder if it will come westward.
color?
Dsyndrome
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First game had chocobos if I remember correctly.
Seeing the phone interface on Vita wouldn't make me so optimistic. To be fair, it's not usual for Square Enix mobile games to be promoted with physical controls (as shown on the Dengeki article), so there's at least that. I guess we'll see.
Lots of stuff on the Vita. As dead as ever.
PixyJunket
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RyougaSaotome
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Sure. Price seems right, and I don't mind the low poly look at all.
The Seiken Densetsu series has gone through some rough times, so if these are at least fun, I'll consider this a victory.
The Seiken Densetsu series has gone through some rough times, so if these are at least fun, I'll consider this a victory.
almost nothhing
still, that's one thing. FFA straight up just plays better. realest graphics ever won't mean shit
SD3 was that era's AAA title, so of course it would look gorgeous..
TheMoon
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I don't like the 3d style.
the problem with all of Square's 3D remakes. The 3D versions of FF III and IV were ugly already. Also not that big of a fan of the 3D versions of the DQ remakes.
PumpkinSpice
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This looks pretty cool. The 3D models look a bit dopey but if the gameplay is spot on with the original I'll buy it.
I tried playing the original recently and while I remember loving it I think it could use some modern touches in terms of combat + balance.
I tried playing the original recently and while I remember loving it I think it could use some modern touches in terms of combat + balance.
RyougaSaotome
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At this point, the Mana series should be good and dead considering how long it's been since we got a good game.
Plus, I'm down with more lower budget attempts at stuff like this.
Plus, I'm down with more lower budget attempts at stuff like this.
butman
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Robert at Zeboyd Games
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As someone who is making a Vita game with Unity, you pretty much just have to optimize the game in general and then the Vita version will also run better. It's easy to forget since I imagine most of us here find playing on the Vita superior to playing on mobile, but mobile phones have outclassed the Vita in raw power & RAM for a while now. Given that Square-Enix has a habit of taking mobile games and doing straight ports with minimal changes to other platforms, chances are the game runs decently on modern mobile phones and less than decently on the less powerful Vita.
Solid Samus
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I am not ever going to support Square's lame ass handheld RPG model again. Fuck that. Fuck that art style. Fuck those shitty visuals. Fuck all that chibi bullshit. I can't get over how shitty Square's handheld-oriented art styles ALWAYS look these days, now that everyone knows that you can just phone it in with safe, focus tested, dumb dumb graphics on IOS and Android. It's like some C-team shit, but it's not like Square cares.
entremet
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almost nothhing
still, that's one thing. FFA straight up just plays better. realest graphics ever won't mean shit
Yeah, I agree, I'm just messing with you.
Not overly enthusiastic about this announcement, but if it leads to sd2 and 3 being remade, I wouldn't mind.
FFA on the Gameboy is one of my favorites (and one of my first ever Gameboy games) but I wasn't impressed by Sword of Mana, and I'm not really excited by what's being shown here. As others have mentioned, the art-style is kind of bland.
Also, I don't think any of the remakes ever do justice to the game's soundtrack - sure, it didn't really shine on the Gameboy, but the orchestrated version that Kenji Ito released was pretty great. Wish they'd do something similar for a remake:
Determination (Opening Theme)
Parting
Decisive Battle
Also, I don't think any of the remakes ever do justice to the game's soundtrack - sure, it didn't really shine on the Gameboy, but the orchestrated version that Kenji Ito released was pretty great. Wish they'd do something similar for a remake:
Determination (Opening Theme)
Parting
Decisive Battle
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Jotamide
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Whaaaaaaat?! So this could potentially translate in a Seiken Densetsu 3 remake? Now that's how you get me to buy your games Square.
yeah, as much as I love the idea of a offical release of Seiken Densetsu 3, I know its going to look bland and disappointing
some gif for viewing
I think he's meaning how Sword of Mana took chocobos and other FF related stuff out to try distance itself from being a FF spinoff like the original version was.
TheJollyCorner
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Ugh... not really looking forward to remakes of SD2 & 3 with that bland polygon graphic style. :/
Solid Samus
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Just can't stand it. And it's not like there's nothing preventing Square from taking a few liberties here and there considering the limitations of gameboy tech that forced big headed art styles aren't there anymore. And yet, 9 times out of 10, their 3D handheld games are some chibi bullshit, and to me, it just looks horrible.
Going by the screenshots/short videos so far it looks like they use the map layouts from the original game verbatim, simply replacing the pixel art with 3D assets.
If they also keep the mechanics and actually improve the music (versus just using samples instead synth with no actual arrangement) I might prefer this "remake" to what was done in Sword of Mana.
If they also keep the mechanics and actually improve the music (versus just using samples instead synth with no actual arrangement) I might prefer this "remake" to what was done in Sword of Mana.
The visuals were the least of that remake's problems.
entremet
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It won't change. That's part of the charm.
I'd hate for them to look like FF8 characters.
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