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[MrTroubleMaker]

is this the 1930's ....

 

[BacklashWave534]

People are really this salty about Tifa's design. Wow.

She's not real guys.

Nope, we are irritated with the far left puritans telling us what is OK and what is not. Every time the trolls on reeeeeee and Twitter get mad companies get nervous and bend the knee. Some girls have D cups, its a real thing!

 

[sevoro]

Would be people be happy if the devs said nothing in regards to shrinking her breasts?

 

[Dacon]

Wait, people are tired of sexy women in games? Outside of japanese games made specifically to be sexy, where are the sexy women in big budget games?

 

[MagnesG]

Wait, people are tired of sexy women in games? Outside of japanese games made specifically to be sexy, where are the sexy women in big budget games?

Sad times. Can’t even think of one in the recent years. I guess only CDPR did the job.

 

[Generic]

Sad times. Can’t even think of one in the recent years. I guess only CDPR did the job.

Fortnite and Overwatch have some sexy ladies.

 

[Ailike]

Nope, we are irritated with the far left puritans telling us what is OK and what is not. Every time the trolls on reeeeeee and Twitter get mad companies get nervous and bend the knee. Some girls have D cups, its a real thing!

I dunno. You seem to be the one reeeeeing in this case. Reasonable character changes equate to far left puritanism? Did you forget to post your Pepe meme?

 

[Dacon]

I dunno. You seem to be the one reeeeeing in this case. Reasonable character changes equate to far left puritanism? Did you forget to post your Pepe meme?

Giving a character a breast reduction because realism in a fantasy game where a 90 pound woman can punch and suplex a giant robot is reasonable? Granted I don't think the "far left" is to blame, I'd say the responsibility falls on fears of inciting rage in a certain group of internet activists shared by SE personnel.

 

[Ailike]

Giving a character a breast reduction because realism in a fantasy game where a 90 pound woman can punch and suplex a giant robot is reasonable? Granted I don't think the "far left" is to blame, I'd say the responsibility falls on fears of inciting rage in a certain group of internet activists shared by SE personnel.

You don't think you can fall back on the realism argument. If you were supplexing robots and your party included a stylized watermelon-loving mistrel show character, would that be ok because we can't be expected to have more 'realism in a fantasy game'? I mean, it's not real after all, so it's perfectly ok for Gee Shucks Washington to be in your game, right?

 

[MagnesG]

Fortnite and Overwatch have some sexy ladies.

That.. was not the first thing that comes to mind when it come to those titles. Where is it, also fanmade and porn doesn’t count lol, obviously.

 

[ExpandKong]

Would be people be happy if the devs said nothing in regards to shrinking her breasts?

I would be, personally. Her design here is a great, slight tweak of the original. And to put it plainly, her breasts still look pretty big. Really they weren’t colossal in the original except for the FMV scenes she showed up in, and those were hilariously stupidly huge.

Mostly I’m just having fun taking the piss ITT. It’s just depressing that we live in a time now where a company like SE has to make a statement about consulting their ethics department to make sure a character in one of their games has responsibly-sized cans.

You don't think you can fall back on the realism argument. If you were supplexing robots and your party included a stylized watermelon-loving mistrel show character, would that be ok because we can't be expected to have more 'realism in a fantasy game'? I mean, it's not real after all, so it's perfectly ok for Gee Shucks Washington to be in your game, right?

Friend, I would like to pay you for the intellectual rights to Gee Shucks Washington and his signature weapon, the watermelon wakizashi.

 

[Dacon]

You don't think you can fall back on the realism argument. If you were supplexing robots and your party included a stylized watermelon-loving mistrel show character, would that be ok because we can't be expected to have more 'realism in a fantasy game'? I mean, it's not real after all, so it's perfectly ok for Gee Shucks Washington to be in your game, right?

As over the top and nonsensical as your argument is, yes. Unless otherwise specifically stated within the lore of your universe, anything can be anything in a fantasy game. One of your party members is a talking dog and a stuffed toy. Arguing from a point of realism in this situation is silly. Tifa would shatter every bone in her body fighting these machines if realism is relevant here.

 

[Helios]

Just for the record, the quotes in this article are massively out of context, and badly translated.

I said the same thing but I think the damage has already been done.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

Just for the record, the quotes in this article are massively out of context, and badly translated.

i mean "restrict" is literally just to hold something back. he could be saying "give Tifa a bra" and it is being taken as "shrink her boobs".

athletic bras primary function is to compress de titty. boobs don't shrink under pressure, they are compressed. imagine a large breasted woman laying down on her back, they will be similarly compressed.

ffs it is as if people don't understand breast physics anymore.

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

They should have some ethics for shitty marketing deals and timed exclusive bullshit

 

[vpance]

That.. was not the first thing that comes to mind when it come to those titles. Where is it, also fanmade and porn doesn’t count lol, obviously.

DMC5 is the most recent big title I can think of. If Western titles then yes probably TW3. Does Tomb Raider still count?

 

[Generic]

That.. was not the first thing that comes to mind when it come to those titles. Where is it, also fanmade and porn doesn’t count lol, obviously.

Fortnite girls are thicc.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

So much for squenix ignoring and being spiteful to complainers lol. Learn the industry ppl.

Exactly what I was going to post. Also, these cretins do know that there are some women with larger than average breasts size in real life, right? Admittedly and even sadly, Tifa still looks huge compared to most recent video game characters though.

 

[DryPancakes]

Would be people be happy if the devs said nothing in regards to shrinking her breasts?

Actually yes, or saying something like "the dev team decided this is the best approach"; honestly I think the design is fine but knowing it has an ethics group deciding/sugesting/telling devs this was the way to go is what's making this design worse in retrospect.

You don't think you can fall back on the realism argument. If you were supplexing robots and your party included a stylized watermelon-loving mistrel show character, would that be ok because we can't be expected to have more 'realism in a fantasy game'? I mean, it's not real after all, so it's perfectly ok for Gee Shucks Washington to be in your game, right?

Your example makes no sense in this context, deciding to be intentionally offensive has nothing to do with realism, unless you're saying big boobs are offensive. If your example characters gets removed it's not going to be becasue of realism that's for sure.

And no, the realism excuse doesn't makes sense, think about how many times this argument has been used with characters that are not female, it's always about high heels, big boobs or short skirts; it's never about realsim and always about how a small group of "ethics" enthusiats beleive entereainment should work.

 

[LMJ]

Sounds like a case of potential mistranslation, credit goes to @Abriael_GN

For the record folks, that's a bad translation of a bad summary that takes a lot of points out of context. It's not very representative of what Nomura-san actually said.

I'm actually quite surprised that there are still sites that report ryokutya2089's Famitsu leaks as fact for the sake of grabbing some hits, and then don't bother actually buying the magazine and properly translating it to correct the glaring mistakes those summaries include.

This is the translation I did in tandem with a Japanese native speaker. https://twinfinite.net/2019/06/final-fantasy-vii-remake-famitsu/ Hope it's not a problem if I link my own article considering that it's the only accurate translation I'm aware of, with the full context. If it's an issue, the mods can remove it.

 

[Shifty1897]

They found the balance between between having huge anime tiddies and staying true to the character. Tifa looks great.

 

[Redstarwater]

Its not unethical. Its borderline unrealistic. A D CUP it that body is not normal, and not even beauty.

That body type does exist and you just insulted everyone who has it. Good job dick.

 

[Redstarwater]

Ever go to the gym? It’s full of college chicks with giants tits and skinny waists. They aren’t fake tits because 20 year old girls that live in Kansas and go to community colleges don’t get boob jobs. Most people don’t get boob jobs that live in the Midwest so that’s not even an argument.

Also get this, a couple years after a girl has a baby they get their body back but the boobs can stay big. This big ass boobs and skinny waist.

Who else goes outside itt?

 

[Kagami77]

You know, I never thought I'd miss Tabata, but...

...at least he didn't censor Cidney or any of the girls in Final Fantasy Type-0 (he let them all have upskirts shots, and they're all even underage). I don't actually mind Tifa's new design much, although I'd prefer the older one, but the fact that the newer design came from the ethics department definitely permanently taints it for me now.

 

[Dacon]

You know, I never thought I'd miss Tabata, but...

...at least he didn't censor Cidney or any of the girls in Final Fantasy Type-0 (he let them all have upskirts shots, and they're all even underage). I don't actually mind Tifa's new design much, although I'd prefer the older one, but the fact that the newer design came from the ethics department definitely permanently taints it for me now.

It boggles my mind how people always bring up her when Shiva is in the game with all her bits and pieces on display.

 

[CyberPanda]

This is just the beginning. Things are gonna get a lot worse, and all you can do is just enjoy the ride. Honk.

 

[BacklashWave534]

I dunno. You seem to be the one reeeeeing in this case. Reasonable character changes equate to far left puritanism? Did you forget to post your Pepe meme?

Wow, we are trying to have an actual conversation about drawing the line and not giving in to the perpetually offended hate mob and the best you can do is throw some insults. How very grown up of you!

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Downgrade confirmed!

They restricted the boobs because of the PS4's weak Jaguar CPU - it could not jiggle them in real time - so the ethics comity jumped in and said "please restrict the boobs physics on Tifa, it makes the framerate drop and you don't want that in an action packed battle encounter!"

To do this realistically they added a sports braw to her model and everything was stable now - frame-rate locked!

So the devs did what is best!

Seriously, it makes sense and it's not as if they covered her like a nun or something.

 

[stickkidsam]

I dunno. You seem to be the one reeeeeing in this case. Reasonable character changes equate to far left puritanism? Did you forget to post your Pepe meme?

WHY did the changes need to occur in the first place? What makes them reasonable when they are unnecessary? I'm not talking about her balloon boobs in the FMV videos. I'm talking about the changes made to her tank top with the new bra.

I love the new design. It's great to look at and I think it looks faithful with a twist. The issue is that it was prompted by an ETHICS DEPARTMENT. Why is an ethics department even a thing?

Sounds like a case of potential mistranslation, credit goes to @Abriael_GN

This needs to be in the OP.

 

[Elcid]

Source at Eurogamer.net

Square Enix has an ethics department, a new interview has revealed - and it advised the Final Fantasy 7 remake team on development.​

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Specifically, this ethics department told the remake developers to "restrict" Tifa's chest, according to comments made by director Testuya Nomura in a new interview with Famitsu (translation by Digital Foundry's John Linneman).​

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The original Final Fantasy 7 character models, created for PSone, are of course unrealistic. 20 years later, making highly-detailed, modern characters for PlayStation 4 threw up new issues.​

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"It was necessary to restrict her chest," Nomura says in the interview. For the developers, modernising Tifa's design meant creating an athletic look, complete with abs, while retaining her iconic white tanktop and black mini skirt outfit. But, as the ethics department pointed out, Tifa shouldn't look "unnatural" during action scenes, so her chest was "restricted". This resulted in black underwear and a fitted tank top for the remake.​

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Don't forget, boobs are scary and D-cups are unethical.

(Personally, the sports-bra look makes sense to me, but it is spooky that an "ethics department" would be involved in the artistic direction of a game at all. Square Enix are artists of the floating world over there in Japan.).

Just knowing this pisses me off. Someone get the petition going and let's start the boycott. #freethebreasts

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

That.. was not the first thing that comes to mind when it come to those titles. Where is it, also fanmade and porn doesn’t count lol, obviously.

H E A L S L U T S

You don't think you can fall back on the realism argument. If you were supplexing robots and your party included a stylized watermelon-loving mistrel show character, would that be ok because we can't be expected to have more 'realism in a fantasy game'? I mean, it's not real after all, so it's perfectly ok for Gee Shucks Washington to be in your game, right?

Are you just looking to be outraged?

 

[Arkage]

So much for squenix ignoring and being spiteful to complainers lol. Learn the industry ppl.

Those who participate in the SJW wars want so desperately for someone to be on "their" side it's a bit embarrassing. SE is on SE's side, and having an ethics department is completely reasonable for a large corporation that puts out tons of consumer entertainment products every year, most of them aimed at kids.

 

[Whitesnake]

 

[Smiles and Cries]

They just didn't want this

that click was worth it. I might have to seek out this anime whatever it is

 

[Psykodad]

I think a lot of people really need to get laid, but I have to admit that this is funny. lol

 

[CyberPanda]

Square-Enix Ethics Department: These milkers are yikes! Shrink them!

 

[Ailike]

H E A L S L U T S

Are you just looking to be outraged?

The thing is, I’m not outraged. There are far more in this thread that express outrage that there was a change, as if it ruins the purity of the character or something. One poster said it makes him sick. Really. Sick. Defending boobs. Another blames a far left agenda. Another defends it as insulting the honor of Midwestern racks or something. I’m not sure what he was going on about. I don’t really care. Tifa looked great then, polygons aside, and looks great now. I just hate the... I don’t know, anti-virtue signaling (is that a thing?) or whatever going on about championing discarding realism or shaming real life big boobs or other BS. If people just said “Damn. That’s a shame. I like big anime tiddies in my game because it gets me hot,” well, I’d respect that stance a lot more because it’s actually honest.

 

[pramod]

I don't even know what the big deal is, I think right now in the West the average cup size is already close to a D, especially with how overweight everyone is. If anything they are making her "unusual" not "normal" by giving her a B cup.

Pretty soon all female characters in video games are going to look like men anyways while in real life women are letting their huge tits hang out everywhere. What a weird world we live in.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I think a lot of people really need to get laid

The thing is, I’m not outraged. There are far more in this thread that express outrage that there was a change, as if it ruins the purity of the character or something. One poster said it makes him sick. Really. Sick. Defending boobs. Another blames a far left agenda. Another defends it as insulting the honor of Midwestern racks or something. I’m not sure what he was going on about. I don’t really care. Tifa looked great then, polygons aside, and looks great now. I just hate the... I don’t know, anti-virtue signaling (is that a thing?) or whatever going on about championing discarding realism or shaming real life big boobs or other BS. If people just said “Damn. That’s a shame. I like big anime tiddies in my game because it gets me hot,” well, I’d respect that stance a lot more because it’s actually honest.

It has already been said to death but there are quite a bit of people that just don't like her face and tiny physique over missing 2 cup sizes. Hyperboles aside yours was the most out there which is why I quoted you.

 

[pramod]

Its not unethical. Its borderline unrealistic. A D CUP it that body is not normal, and not even beauty.

You must not have seen many real women....

And

Germany Maps Out The World's Biggest Boobs By Country

Germany Maps Out The World's Biggest Boobs By Country

www.huffpost.com

Nonetheless, on both maps, the women of Russian, Finland, Sweden and Norway seem to be the big "winners," boasting "larger than a D cup" bra sizes. Kudos, ladies.
Lest any Americans reading this feel inferior, know that women in the U.S. have mostly D-cup breasts, along with Venezuela and Colombia. As for the smallest chests, apparently those are found in Africa and Asia, particularly in East Asia. So now you know.

 

[BruceCM]

Even with the better translation, it still has the Ethics department saying to restrict Tifa's chest So, the end result is the same.... Her boobs look smaller & don't bounce much

 

[gela94]

Guys can be really pathetic . .. come on she still looks like a cheap stripper! I wouldn't wish these kind of breast sizes on any woman, seems more like a curse, men sexualize you and woman hate you because they think you are trying to seduce men. But most clothing looks sexualized with these kind of breast sizes.

 

[Aggelos]

Final Fantasy VII Remake director Tetsuya Nomura confirms Honey Bee Inn cross-dressing event, new events, dialogue options, and enemies

The latest issue of Weekly Famitsu has an interview with Final Fantasy VII Remake director Testuya Nomura, who shares various new details about the game.

gematsu.com

• The watchmen of fate (the black mist in the trailer) are mysterious beings that appear before the party wherever they go. I hope that even those who have played the original game will enjoy the new elements.
• There are quite a bit of dialogue options. We are making it so the dialogue changes depending on your response, so the sheer volume of dialogue has increased.
• The Honey Bee Inn cross-dressing event is still in. We’ve made it more modern. If we made the facility like we did in the original game, the physical unease would be staggering, so that was no good…
• There are quite a few additions to the scenario. While the main story itself hasn’t changed, there are a countless number of new events. Otherwise we wouldn’t have two Blu-ray discs. (Laughs.)
• Aerith and Tifa are double heroines. One has a western-style look and the other an eastern-style look.
• We wanted Tifa to have abs, so she has an athletic body type. The ethics department at Square Enix also told us that we had to tighten her chest as not to get unnatural during all the intense action. From there we got the black underwear and fitted tank top.
• With an emphasis on immersion and exhilaration, you can fight without stress through the use of shortcuts. When you open the command menu, time slows and you can fight like a command battle.
• Each playable character has different enemy affinities.
• An item is required for MP recovery.
• For the sake of level design, we’re preparing a few new enemies where necessary.

For people who mumble-complain about Tifa's appearance : Square-Enix should hire Clay Travis and reprimand their Ethics Department.

 

[bhunachicken]

I feel I'm the only one who was actually glad to see they didn't make Tifa's boobs stupidly big. I think her redesign is great.

 

[-MD-]

I feel I'm the only one who was actually glad to see they didn't make Tifa's boobs stupidly big. I think her redesign is great.

I'm with you, I think her design is about as good as I could have hoped for.

 

[sevoro]

For people who mumble-complain about Tifa's appearance : Square-Enix should hire Clay Travis and reprimand their Ethics Department.

Had to replay the first time he said boobs, like 20 times, had to make sure he wasn't saying booze. He's going on CNN and talking to a female anchor who will most likely take offence. He must have known what was going to happen.

Props to him for sticking ti his guns, though.

 

[Screamer-RSA]

"They are all not real guuyyyssssss, might as well turn them into stick men/women!!"

 

[Senhua]

Even with the better translation, it still has the Ethics department saying to restrict Tifa's chest So, the end result is the same.... Her boobs look smaller & don't bounce much

Also it's a little strange that her sports bra is bigger than tank top. As if they want to cover her cleavage too.

 

[down 2 orth]

Ethics department = Sony's offices in San Francisco.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

Good! The ethics team helped the artist create a great looking character. No reason for Tifa to have 36 DDD boobs in this game.

Worst design by far.

Also according to a guy in OneAngryGamer so take it with a pinch of salt, the Ethics Department office of SE is located in Commiefornia!