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[Y2Kev]

They wouldn't need to port anything down, that was exactly my point in the first place, they had a version on the PS2, they would not need to port down anything since they would build upon that version, my point was that they could release it to capitalize on sales with the Wii, which was what cvx (the first person I quoted) was talking about.

I see what you mean, though it hinges on how complete and how current those assets actually are-- which, if we believe what they say, are probably close two two years out of date.

They could just develop along side the PS3 project. I think that wouldn't be very desirable, but who knows.

 

[Eteric Rice]

I'm serious, it's an RPG. It's not like they're changed much in the last 16 + years. :lol

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

ffvii ps3 remake please

Agreed. This is all that matters.

 

[Durante]

I'm serious, it's an RPG. It's not like they're changed much in the last 16 + years. :lol

This wouldn't even be true if you were talking about Dragon Quest, and that's the most "retro" RPG franchise I know. Play FF1. Then play FF4. Then 6. Then 7. Then 10 and 12 after that. Are you seriously telling me that not much changed except for the graphics?

 

[Eteric Rice]

This wouldn't even be true if you were talking about Dragon Quest, and that's the most "retro" RPG franchise I know. Play FF1. Then play FF4. Then 6. Then 7. Then 10 and 12 after that. Are you seriously telling me that not much changed except for the graphics?

It's all pretty much turn based combat with added features in every carnation. Though, XII was a bit different.

Really, what is XIII doing that the last generation couldn't (aside from visuals), and spare me the A.I deal.

 

[John Harker]

I'm serious, it's an RPG. It's not like they're changed much in the last 16 + years. :lol

yea... i wish RPGs have changed over the year as much as fighting and sports games have ;(

 

[ant1532]

yea... i wish RPGs have changed over the year as much as fighting and sports games have ;(

They have changed drastically imo. They even made a new genre for them. MMORPG.

 

[Zoe]

and theme song sung by Mizuki Nana.

A seiyuu? I can't imagine it being a large franchise if that's the case.

Spoiler

Watch it be another FMA game :lol

 

[John Harker]

They have changed drastically imo. They even made a new genre for them. MMORPG.

I was being sarcastic... I think what he said was ignorant

How can you say RPGs havent changed in 16 years? they've certainly had a major shift in style, exectuion, gameplay... hell, 16 years ago did western devs even make RPGs?

to say RPGs havent changed besides graphics and to say sports and fighting games has (which I would imagine is implied that other genres have chaged but RPGs havent) is just stupid.

hell, this is entire thread has sprialed down into stupidity now
this game is doomed already

 

[Eteric Rice]

I'm talking about JRPGs, mainly. Not SRPGs, and MMORPGs.

 

[Y2Kev]

Yeah, I didn't even follow up on it.

Anyway, WOOO S-E PARTY!! pass me the dip

 

[Duress]

Ehrgeiz sequel! :lol

 

[ant1532]

I was being sarcastic...

....


woops lol

 

[djtiesto]

hell, 16 years ago did western devs even make RPGs?

Western devs invented the RPG genre...

 

[dog$]

16 years ago did western devs even make RPGs?

hell, this is entire thread has sprialed down into stupidity now

I wonder why.

 

[John Harker]

Western devs invented the RPG genre...

eh, he was talking about jRPG-style games, that's what I meant, games in that style...
I'm never clear enough during the day, cause I'm posting at work, my bad

 

[Xzbeat]

Im hoping for a FFXIII T-RPG with waggle.

 

[Reilly]

JRPGs > White RPGs


Hopefully, though, they bought the Breath of Fire license off Capcom and are making a 6th one.

 

[Xzbeat]

JRPGs > White RPGs

DQ > Western RPGs > JRPGs

 

[Cedille]

I don't like JRPGs. They are pretty much dead today and the sequels won't be published anymore. Within ten years, Tales and Megami Tensei will be dead too.

 

[SOLDIER]

For you otaku fansub lovers (I'm mostly into dubs myself), could you perhaps take the VAs confirmed for the project and come up with an educated guess on what game they'll be lending their voices for? I only recognize Riku's VA, so I'd guess that maybe the game is that KH spinoff Nomura was talking about, but did they specifically say the new project was FF-related? If so, then I think we should consider the VA roles for a sequel or spinoff for an existing series. I have my doubts the new FF is something seperate, but likely takes place or is spun off an existing FF world. Either that or it's the new MMORPG they've talked about.

I have my doubts it'll have anything to do with FFVII, since pretty much all the characters have their own dedicated VA's, and the people listed haven't played any of them.

 

[badcrumble]

I'm gonna say either FF Haerasis XIII or the new Kingdom Hearts whatever-it-is (three VAs for three knights?)

 

[Mr_Furious]

when's the party?

 

[nelsonroyale]

It's all pretty much turn based combat with added features in every carnation. Though, XII was a bit different.

Really, what is XIII doing that the last generation couldn't (aside from visuals), and spare me the A.I deal.

ask that of any game...its clear, your entire argument is geared around the fact that you want the games for your system of choice

peace

 

[Boerseun]

Crystal Bearers was announced when the Revolution was first shown - so theres your ground-up Wii Final Fantasy.

Crystal Chronicles has become its own thing though. It's hard to continue viewing it as a spinoff, as it's pretty much a separate franchise now. I reckon they could just as well remove the Final Fantasy name completely and it would do just as well.

What people are talking about with regards to a ground-up Wii FF, is to have the next game in the main FF series i.e. FF 14 be created for the Wii exclusively. Shorter production time + lower production cost + larger installed userbase + S-E's obvious technical know how = SUCCESS!!!

 

[Dali]

DQ > Western RPGs > JRPGs

???

Nissans > Western Autos > Japanese Autos

 

[gkryhewy]

Agreed. This is all that matters.

I can't believe people still think this would happen, and that if it did, it would be for PS3. Do you think SE hates money or something?

 

[Amir0x]

I can't believe people still think this would happen, and that if it did, it would be for PS3. Do you think SE hates money or something?

*sigh*

 

[Enk]

Forget the FFVII Remake or a new Chrono Trigger (even though I want these too). I'd give my pinky toe for a new Actraiser! This franchise had so much unique potential but they blew it by making a disjointed, actiony sequel. If they ever do end up making one they just need to keep both the Sim City and action elements in the game and tie them in better. People are always looking for original ideas, well here was one that was never elaborated upon.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

id rather have a final fantasy 6 remake, than 7.

 

[MassiveAttack]

I can't believe people still think this would happen, and that if it did, it would be for PS3. Do you think SE hates money or something?

You do realize that SCEI has ways of making FF on PS3 very profitable for SE, right? It's not as if it's a fixed return based solely on installed base.

 

[Amir0x]

can you tell SCEI to start making a lot of companies 'very profitable' for development on PS3? They're kinda basically losing every exclusive. just fyi thought you'd like to inform your men MassiveAttack

 

[djtiesto]

I don't like JRPGs. They are pretty much dead today and the sequels won't be published anymore. Within ten years, Tales and Megami Tensei will be dead too.

What the hell? One of the most idiotic statements I've ever seen on NeoGAF. Care to back up your reasoning at all?

 

[Amir0x]

uh oh the resident japanophiles don't appreciate your comment Cedille prepare for shanking

 

[Zoe]

For you otaku fansub lovers (I'm mostly into dubs myself), could you perhaps take the VAs confirmed for the project and come up with an educated guess on what game they'll be lending their voices for? I only recognize Riku's VA, so I'd guess that maybe the game is that KH spinoff Nomura was talking about, but did they specifically say the new project was FF-related? If so, then I think we should consider the VA roles for a sequel or spinoff for an existing series. I have my doubts the new FF is something seperate, but likely takes place or is spun off an existing FF world. Either that or it's the new MMORPG they've talked about.

I have my doubts it'll have anything to do with FFVII, since pretty much all the characters have their own dedicated VA's, and the people listed haven't played any of them.

Given their past works, I would probably guess something Jump-related. Are there any series that haven't been exploited to death yet?

 

[Ruas]

final fantasy 6 sequel for wii. just a hope.

 

[djtiesto]

uh oh the resident japanophiles don't appreciate your comment Cedille prepare for shanking

So now I'm a resident Japanophile? WTF?

 

[Big Shirtless Ron]

id rather have a final fantasy 6 remake, than 7.

i'd rather see a ffviii remake. ff 6/7 are still playable, but 8 is murder on the ol' eyes.

 

[mikeGFG]

16 years ago did western devs even make RPGs?

You guys crack me up.

 

[Amir0x]

if you're going to object so heavily to someone thinking jRPGs are 'dead' - which doesn't necessarily mean sales, and can mean something objective like quality - then yes. Plus, you ARE a japanophile, by virtue of your own commentary:

My big problem with Western RPGs are that the freedom makes them much too overwhelming for me... just way too much to do, and I hate not feeling like I'm making any kind of progress. Not to mention, most of them have annoying interfaces, especially considering I've grown up with the streamlined JRPG menu systems. Ahhh well, I'll stick with the Japanese ones.

This is generally speaking, since not all JRPGs or WRPGs are like this, but on the whole, I prefer anime style aesthetics and character designs (as long as they're not FFX levels of fruity) to D&D inspired settings.

Yeah, like usual, most of the western games seem to be same-old-same-old... genres I dno't even play. Well, Assassin's Creed looks nice, and Mass Effect could be interesting (though trading in RPG combat for squad-based combat me no likey). But once again I find myself caring more for the Japanese titles in development.

And let's not forget your western art commentary! It's all Tolkien/D&D-esque anyway! Animu art mostly has their own unique iconic looks!

 

[Surreal]

It's all pretty much turn based combat with added features in every carnation. Though, XII was a bit different.

Really, what is XIII doing that the last generation couldn't (aside from visuals), and spare me the A.I deal.

Oh oh, I know! The main girl was confirmed to be able to control gravity, so physics! I win!

 

[beef3483]

They can have XIII, I just want a VI remake on the Wii.

Agreed.

 

[Dali]

So now I'm a resident Japanophile? WTF?

Really I never understood why liking jrpgs = Otaku extraordinaire Japanophile. I like fighting games too, which are mostly developed by Japanese companies, but for some reason there's never a douchebag in those threads calling people "Japanophiles".

i'd rather see a ffviii remake. ff 6/7 are still playable, but 8 is murder on the ol' eyes.

I disagree in relation to FF7. That game is ass ugly now. The cg cutscenes had different character styles from one to the other. The overworld map character model vs. the battle character model was different also, and both of them consisted of all of 20 polys. FF8 hasn't aged great either, but I think 7 is waaay uglier.

 

[djtiesto]

if you're going to object so heavily to someone thinking jRPGs are 'dead' - which doesn't necessarily mean sales, and can mean something objective like quality - then yes. Plus, you ARE a japanophile, by virtue of your own commentary:





And let's not forget your western art commentary! It's all Tolkien/D&D-esque anyway! Animu art mostly has their own unique iconic looks!

If I was a Japanophile, wouldn't I flat out refuse to play anything non Japanese, though? In fact, I said even in those posts you quoted, that I am open to Western developed games in the genres I like. I love the Wipeout series, spent more time on Geometry Wars than any other 360 game, and am clearly willing to at least give Mass Effect a chance. You are probably better off calling me a "retrophile" or something, that would be infinitely more fitting and a compliment I grew up strictly playing console games, which in the 8, 16, and early 32 bit era, were mostly Japanese anyways, so that style of games stuck with me a lot more. And I've given my own reasons for disliking the non-linear nature of Western RPGs (if it makes you feel better, I don't like the World of Ruin in the Japanese FF6 anyways).

I don't get where I said animu art "mostly has their own unique iconic looks", and in fact I find some of the stuff just as generic as the Western D&D/Tolkien stuff. I simply prefer the style... which is something objective, I'm not flagging off all Western art or anything. Might as well call me a "hollandophile" since I'd rather listen to Armin Van Buuren or Tiesto than Nas or Billy Joel or any other local artist, or a "hinduphile" because I prefer Indian food, or something silly like that. Hell, I can't even remember the last anime I watched, am not too crazy about Japanese food, and would never willingly download J-pop

I don't wanna get in a heated argument with you or anything, but "japanophile" is such a loaded term around these boards anyways and was really curious as to why you decided to say something like that out of the blue to me. I was just calling the original poster out on making a flame-baited comment in a thread that had absolutely nothing to do with the perceived quality of RPGs being in decline. (Which is an argument for another time, parts of which I agree and disagree with)

 

[John Harker]

You guys crack me up.

You obviously did not keep reading.

 

[sevenchaos]

Final Fantasy XIV

Yes. The new Final Fantasy MMORPG.

 

[naranjito]

i read that they're not going to remake FF VII, rather just re-release it for the Wii.

Spoiler

rly

 

[Eteric Rice]

ask that of any game...its clear, your entire argument is geared around the fact that you want the games for your system of choice

peace

More than any, they've stayed the same. FPS, adventure games, etc, have changed a lot since their origins. JRPGs have changed very little, due to not needing amazing graphics and A.I. Though, many could argue that they've gotten worse, as they're packed with CGI cut scenes. They're becoming more like interactive movies. : /

And who doesn't want games for their system of choice? What I'm trying to say is that the PS3 won't have any significant effect on that genre. I don't care if the PS3 gets RPGs, but I'm tired of people feeling like their systems SHOULD get them because of this or that.

 

[Jonnyram]

Perhaps gamefront is a little to blame with their slight inaccuracies here, but GAF, as usual, is totally blowing this out of proportion :/ It's probably just an anime version of one of their manga in Gangan, or a game related to it. Those voice actors are not FF-level. Also Mizuki Nana is a voice actor on this project - the two theme song artists are not revealed yet (the very fact that there are two groups making theme song kind of gives away the fact that it's an anime too...)

Does everyone have me on ignore or something?

 

[Ether_Snake]

I think they will unveil Haeresis or the new KH series. If it is the later, I guess is it will be on PSP. It would make sense considering that the video from KH2:FM is on a PS2 game, and it would make sense that Square would use the KH2 engine to keep making money by making more KH games on PSP while they work on the PS3 one(s).

A while ago Sony had told third parties that the best way to generate enough revenue to finance the initial cost of next-gen development was to keep on making PS2 and PSP games to generate revenue until the PS3 was more firmly established.

And btw Square is DEFINITELY planning a next-gen remake or sequel of FFVII. I am sure of this because of a few reasons: First there is Dirge of Cerberus and Before Crisis, setting the field for a sequel to FFVII. Then there is the fact that the team behind FF is saying that they don't want to make another Final Fantasy game that cannot be almost on par with Advent Children as far as action scenes/battles go. They said in interviews how AC raised the bar, and it would be disappointing to have fights that would not be on par with the movie (jumping around etc, and fighting on motorcycles). Imagine playing a sequel to FFVII, with Cloud, but with a battle system like Lost Odyssey. It would be wrong

So what are they doing? They are making FFXIII to build up the pipeline needed to make a new next-gen FFVII game happen. FFXIII has very dynamic battles that make use of an Endorphine-like animation system (mix of physics and AI to generate contextual animations that blend seamlessly with one another, as seen in White Knight Story for example, but crazier). They are trying to replicate the kinds of fights we saw in AC in preparation for the new FFVII, they are building the pipeline indirectly through the creation of FFXIII (and at the same time generating revenue from the game once it hits the shelves).

Add to this the fact that you can ride motorcycles and even fight while on motorcycles in FFXIII, and you get a clear picture of what they are aiming for. Expect a next-gen FFVII to be released after FFXIII, with fast-paced battles and the possibility to ride a motorcycle. Everything points in that direction