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Star Ocean 4 4K/HD remaster coming to PS4 and PC in Japan
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That game was a bit of a slog, but the battle system was a blast. I hope they improve the save system (mainly increase the abundance of save points) and maybe add in a fast travel. I almost put the game down due to all the repetitive running back and fourth across maps. in fact, that's what I remember most about that game. yuck.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
T_T
Why this instead of 1 & 2?
Why this instead of 1 & 2?
They were both still fun when I replayed their PSP re-releases, but even that was almost 10 years ago now. I wouldn't mind going back to SO2 again right now.
OmegaDL50
Member
You're gonna have to ask SEGA about that.
SE had nothing to do with RoF.
True.
From Software could have decided one of their secret projects was a sequel to Enchanted Arms.
The hyperbole is real. SO5 is miles above what could even be called the 'worst' jrpg.
Somebody show this man the Idea Factory wiki page.
Also not even those would come close at all.
Yeah for real, no one wants to play 4 again
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Well this got me blindsided.
'kay
'kay
Alboreo
Member
I only sorta enjoyed SO4 when I played it before, but after trying out SO5 I realize that it wasn't bad at all aside from the lifeless eyes and " 'kay girl". Combat's good, party composition is fun, the settings are interesting and the story isn't bad.
Star Ocean 5, meanwhile, had rough combat, a very boring story, uninteresting characters, uninspired locales, and I personally hated having so many characters on the field at once. I'm hard-pressed to think of a JRPG in recent years that I liked less. Not the worst game of all time by any means, but definitely not what I expected.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm really excited for this port of 4. I hope they do some sort of an HD rerelease of 1 and 2 (or at least 2), and something with 3 aside from the PSN version they recently did. The series is unique and wonderful; it deserves to live, but if the fifth title is all people have in their memory then it's not going to last much longer.
It's not bad, but I would suggest Star Ocean 2 over it. I enjoyed it more all-around, and it makes a fine starting point in the series imo.
I'd honestly like that port of SO2 more than anything Star Ocean-related. Oh well.
Star Ocean 5, meanwhile, had rough combat, a very boring story, uninteresting characters, uninspired locales, and I personally hated having so many characters on the field at once. I'm hard-pressed to think of a JRPG in recent years that I liked less. Not the worst game of all time by any means, but definitely not what I expected.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm really excited for this port of 4. I hope they do some sort of an HD rerelease of 1 and 2 (or at least 2), and something with 3 aside from the PSN version they recently did. The series is unique and wonderful; it deserves to live, but if the fifth title is all people have in their memory then it's not going to last much longer.
It's not bad, but I would suggest Star Ocean 2 over it. I enjoyed it more all-around, and it makes a fine starting point in the series imo.
I'd honestly like that port of SO2 more than anything Star Ocean-related. Oh well.
Not really. I hate the majority of the characters in the game.
Besides the aforementioned Lymle:
- Edge is a mopey, whiny bitch. I tolerated it at first due to what happens, but man he lost my sympathy.
- Reimi could have been tolerable but she's bogged down by Edge and their silly relationship (or lack there of outside of the most awkward scenes)
- Meracle is just as annoying and creepy as Lymle.
- Serah doesn't really have a personality beyond dumb and clumsy. Not to mention her English voice if you're playing the 360 version, oh dear.
- Combine Lymle, Meracle and Serah together and you get them interrupting story scenes constantly to talk about how they don't understand anything. Even worse, Bacchus gets dragged through the mud by this since he's usually the one who has to explain.
- Faize is dragged down by the awful shipping they tried with Lymle and the fact he has his emo moments.
That leaves two characters...
There's apparently some weird legal issue with 1 and 2. They don't even have digital PSP versions.
LowerLevel
Member
Still rather MS/Squeenix figure out the BC alternative on Xbox right now personally... Same for the other rpg's from the 360.
TLH was way back when MS were still fostering Japanese partnerships, part of that whole blue dragon, infinite undiscovery, eternal sonata, vesperia and lost odyssey period.
No company in Japan gives a shit enough to try something like that again.
clay_ghost
Member
It was so great, I kinda believe that those RPG won't be made or won't be made with the same budget(see tales of after Vesperia) if MS never step in. Kinda sad that MS never try again this gen, not even with their own IP....
100%TrophyMaster
Member
I thought the battle system was okay but the characters were hot garbage and I'm not touching those battle trophies with a ten foot pole. Anyone who gets a platinum in this deserves mad props.
I always enjoy the opening to the Star Ocean games and then it's a slow slog downhill. The series needs a major overhaul
I always enjoy the opening to the Star Ocean games and then it's a slow slog downhill. The series needs a major overhaul
2 was rereleased for PS4 and Vita in Japan.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Did you know Phil's been to Japan again though?
vesperia would have been made with the same budget. same with Eternal Sonata, and Star Ocean. Infinite undiscovery, lost odyssey and others were MS exclusives so yes. Also, i think those deals were pretty bad for the outcome of those studios and they also agree, so i would rather it not have happend personally. It didn't help considering the 7th gen growing pains many devs had at the time
Its PS2 on PS4 classic, the same ISO as the original rerendered via emulation at 1080p
Funny
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I tried replaying this last year but I just couldn't go past the beginning of the 5th area. Save points are way too sparse, combat wasn't that fun, and the writing is seriously abysmal.
I don't see how Star Ocean games get praised for their combat. They're all very clunky and offer very little variety in terms of different skills/attacks. They're all very spammy. IMO they're far, far below the battle systems of the Tales of games.
I hate how the series has so much potential as a sci-fi ARPG. Because even if tri-Ace were to get another opportunity, I'm sure they'd blow it. They seem adamant on having shitty stories and characters, a spammy battle system that relies on ppl getting fooled by the addictive nature of the bonus board or the giant numbers, and bad animations.
They've also shown that they're not smart with their budget. The engine they made that was literally never used? SO5 being a console game despite a $2 budget, being released alongside Exist Archive, a handheld game with a $2 budget? Also stuff like SO4 getting gobs of super expensive-looking CGI trailers/commercials when the game itself is largely lacking any cinematic flair outside of the last hour?
They have amazing ideas, but completely fuck up the execution.
Best example of that is Resonance of Fate: let's create an amazingly interesting dystopian sci-fi world with an interesting premise, and have the game revolve around costumes and completing menial joke tasks (like fetching wine, or spying on a date). This is made worse by the fact that the game is grindy as hell and dungeons are legit copy/paste and you need to rely on the color-coded entrances/exits to know where you are. I was sooooo fucking disappointed with this game.
I don't see how Star Ocean games get praised for their combat. They're all very clunky and offer very little variety in terms of different skills/attacks. They're all very spammy. IMO they're far, far below the battle systems of the Tales of games.
I hate how the series has so much potential as a sci-fi ARPG. Because even if tri-Ace were to get another opportunity, I'm sure they'd blow it. They seem adamant on having shitty stories and characters, a spammy battle system that relies on ppl getting fooled by the addictive nature of the bonus board or the giant numbers, and bad animations.
They've also shown that they're not smart with their budget. The engine they made that was literally never used? SO5 being a console game despite a $2 budget, being released alongside Exist Archive, a handheld game with a $2 budget? Also stuff like SO4 getting gobs of super expensive-looking CGI trailers/commercials when the game itself is largely lacking any cinematic flair outside of the last hour?
They have amazing ideas, but completely fuck up the execution.
Best example of that is Resonance of Fate: let's create an amazingly interesting dystopian sci-fi world with an interesting premise, and have the game revolve around costumes and completing menial joke tasks (like fetching wine, or spying on a date). This is made worse by the fact that the game is grindy as hell and dungeons are legit copy/paste and you need to rely on the color-coded entrances/exits to know where you are. I was sooooo fucking disappointed with this game.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
Oh God no.
Ravage_Hydra
Member
Yes one of the few games i have played for over 1000 hours. Yup i really love the Battle system
Day 0 when it comes over to NA
Reimi for the win
Day 0 when it comes over to NA
TRUE ORDER
Member
VP... we have to believe!!Would probably get it on sale. Wish Second Story would at least come to the west on ps4. The dream would be Valkyrie Profile though
Grim Patron
Member
hope they dont put denuvo in it
I liked it, really.
I tend to tune overly anime jrpg storylines and characters out. So that helped. As did going with Japanese voices and skipping a lot of cutscenes Even so, I liked the premise being very Sci-fi. The opening hours or so at least. Somewhere around the third planet it bogged down tnto cliches, but then suddenly its Roswell That Endswell.
The gameplay was fun, the post game seemed pretty good too. Didn't like the whole grinding skeletons bit, but otherwise I dug it. If the storyline had stuck with the exploration and sci-fi It'd been a lot better too.
Not sure I'd hop on board for a second purchase, but Im glad there is a PC release.
I tend to tune overly anime jrpg storylines and characters out. So that helped. As did going with Japanese voices and skipping a lot of cutscenes Even so, I liked the premise being very Sci-fi. The opening hours or so at least. Somewhere around the third planet it bogged down tnto cliches, but then suddenly its Roswell That Endswell.
The gameplay was fun, the post game seemed pretty good too. Didn't like the whole grinding skeletons bit, but otherwise I dug it. If the storyline had stuck with the exploration and sci-fi It'd been a lot better too.
Not sure I'd hop on board for a second purchase, but Im glad there is a PC release.
BONKERS
Member
It is so real.
The reality is, people have put SO in this little box of this level of quality in their mind that it doesn't ever actually achieve. (Due to So2 and nostalgia). But this doesn't exist, SO is an inconsistent franchise but is always consistently at the very worst only "enjoyable".
That's how I see it anyway.
Based on the live stream, they are using FXAA here (Didn't the original have MSAA????)and only using a limited set of resolution options(SE should know better by now)
More than likely, this will just be a straight port, SO only seems to get the budget treatment after SO4's original release. SO3 deserved a FFX/XII level HD re-release (PS4 PS2 emulation is seriously lacking considering the titles don't render anywhere near 1080p.), and SO2's PS4 port is a joke. (Much like the FFVII, IX PS4 ports)
The game should be 3024 yen, so in the £20-25 range. Or $25-30.
Bonus PS4 theme and avatar if you buy it before January 8.
PC hacks wishlist:
- bonus gauge doesn't break
- walking speed x2
- resource points are limitless
- stealing has 100% success rate
- auto skip cut scenes
- skip item creation animation
PC mods I can dream about:
- make Ashlay playable
- have both Arumat and Faize in party
- make Faize useful, or at least fun
Bonus PS4 theme and avatar if you buy it before January 8.
PC hacks wishlist:
- bonus gauge doesn't break
- walking speed x2
- resource points are limitless
- stealing has 100% success rate
- auto skip cut scenes
- skip item creation animation
PC mods I can dream about:
- make Ashlay playable
- have both Arumat and Faize in party
- make Faize useful, or at least fun
LordGorchnik
Member
I enjoyed both of these funny enough. But yes, they are "bad" games in a sense.
Not funny at all when these exclusive deal nearly killed a lot of jrpg franchises.
