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[FishSquared]

If true too little to late......

 

[MechaX]

Sometimes I think some of you are just too jaded to enjoy games. I saw nothing wrong. I'm a big SO fan though.

Pro-Tip: Jaded or not, they still at least have some advantage in the fact that they actually have played it. Not saying that you will or won't enjoy it though, but just keep that in mind.

 

[Brofist]

Wow, I never played this because I had other games and never got around to picking it up, but I thought the consensus was that it's an average RPG. This topic makes it sound like a fucking disaster less worthy of playing than Beyond the Beyond.

 

[JudgeN]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tales-of-vesperia-showdown-blog-entry

That is a damn shame, I wonder what Eternal Sonata was now.

 

[StuBurns]

Another year old port of a mediocre JRPG for PS3! Woooo I can't wait to see the bonus costumes.

 

[goldenpp72]

so apperantly the game sucked balls on 360. I really wonder if SE's exclusivity deals are paying off in the end, seeing as the all the hype has died down, and the perception of SO has turned for the worst they can't really expect gangbuster sales on ps3 now can they ?

They can expect gangbuster sales when they release shit worth playing, which they haven't done this entire generation from what I can see on the HD consoles.

FF13 imo will be their best selling FF title to date when combining the platforms.

 

[Llyranor]

The game's not as bad as GAF makes it out to be from youtube videos, but if you get into it for any reason other than the battle system and the battle system alone, brace yourself for disappointment. That being said, the battle system was enjoyable enough to get me all the way to the end - but I didn't find it good enough to sustain multiple replays. Game's been traded away now. Item customization is also pretty neat, but I wouldn't use that as a selling feature.

Frankly, PS3-only gamers would be better off if they localize Vesperia or uncancel Last Remnant; those are easily my two favorite 360 JRPGs and the only ones I haven't traded away after finishing. However, if you're desperate/starved for a JRPG, there are worse choices than SO4. Most people who've actually played it and posted in the official thread have positive things to say about it.

 

[Big B]

A Tri-Ace game. ....yeah no.

Can we get Star Ocean 4 exchanged for the Last Remnant, please? That game look at least competent.

 

[lorddarkflare]

They're actually rather good at battle systems. It's just that their writing staff needs to be fired.

Very true, though to be honest i have not liked a one of them. Weird i know, though i eagerly await Resonance of Fate and really hope that they neuter their writers(or bring back their VP 1 ones)

 

[Rpgmonkey]

But it worries me a lot that the scores seems lower than in previous Star Ocean games.

Eh, it's biggest (non-technical) weak points (story and dialogue, annoying/boring characters, poor direction of the voice actors) apply to pretty much the whole series, and some of the minor annoyances can easily be fixed, if you ask me.

If you ask me, if you've played one SO game, you know most of what you should expect for the others.

Do we have to wait til the end of the generation to get a Valkyrie Profile?

IIRC, VP1 was their last game for the PS1 generation, and VP2 was their last game for the PS2 generation.

Based on this, VP3 will be their last game for this generation.

 

[charlequin]

Also maybe this means PS3 can get Infinite Undiscovery too?

Do you have something against PS3 owners? :lol

 

[goldenpp72]

The game's not as bad as GAF makes it out to be from youtube videos, but if you get into it for any reason other than the battle system and the battle system alone, brace yourself for disappointment. That being said, the battle system was enjoyable enough to get me all the way to the end - but I didn't find it good enough to sustain multiple replays. Game's been traded away now. Item customization is also pretty neat, but I wouldn't use that as a selling feature.

Frankly, PS3-only gamers would be better off if they localize Vesperia or uncancel Last Remnant; those are easily my two favorite 360 JRPGs and the only ones I haven't traded away after finishing. However, if you're desperate/starved for a JRPG, there are worse choices than SO4. Most people who've actually played it and posted in the official thread have positive things to say about it.

This is such a weird thing to say, why would anyone buy an rpg based on a combat system that, perhaps good for an rpg, but holds nothing to games with actual focus on combat (ninja gaiden, dmc, soon to be bayonetta, etc).

At least vesperia had both fun combat and a good cast of chars, graphics, music, etc.

I think the only people who enjoy so4 are psychotic anime fans who love high pitched voices for no apparent reason, it didn't help that a lot of the backround cast acted like normal (and even looked normal!) human beings while the other cast were kids that looked like porcelain dolls and acted annoying.

Lets all masturbate to how awesome edge maverick (lol) is!/cast

 

[Loudninja]

Eh, it's biggest (non-technical) weak points (story and dialogue, annoying/boring characters, poor direction of the voice actors) apply to pretty much the whole series, and some of the minor annoyances can easily be fixed, if you ask me.

If you ask me, if you've played one SO game, you know most of what you should expect for the others.



IIRC, it was their last game for the PS1 generation, and their last game for the PS2 generation, it seems obvious that it'll be their last game for this generation.

Yes this is true all the voice acting was never good in any of the SO games, so it does not bother me.

 

[kassatsu]

There's something gaffers say to news/threads like this but I'm not sure what it is.

:|

 

[cosmicblizzard]

Eh, A JRPG's a JRPG. I did like 3 so I'll give it a shot.

 

[Kagari]

:lol

 

[MechaX]

EdgeWatGif

Damnit. I was 10 seconds away from posting that exact same gif.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

This is such a weird thing to say, why would anyone buy an rpg based on a combat system that, perhaps good for an rpg, but holds nothing to games with actual focus on combat (ninja gaiden, dmc, soon to be bayonetta, etc).

Because sometimes there's a difference between RPG combat and Action game combat?

I don't think a lot of characters/stories in a couple of Tales games are anything that interesting, and if I do really enjoy a particular Tales game mostly for the combat, it's because I'm getting something I wouldn't exactly find in Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry. Just as an example.

I think the only people who enjoy so4 are psychotic anime fans who love high pitched voices for no apparent reason

...

 

[Y2Kev]

I enjoyed it until the very end, but I skipped all the cutscenes. ALL of them. kay.

 

[goldenpp72]

Damnit. I was 10 seconds away from posting that exact same gif.

Does anyone have a gif of the kids and capell dancing in IU? That was true tri ace magic.

 

[Brannon]

Lets hope they'll add the japanese tracks to the disc aswell.

It's Blu-Ray, they have so much space to spare. They have to do this!

 

[LordPhoque]

Another year old port of a mediocre JRPG for PS3! Woooo I can't wait to see the bonus costumes.

I agree with the fact that SO4 is terrible, but why the "another" ? TOV is probably the best JRPG of this generation.

 

[Lagunamov]

Eh, A JRPG's a JRPG. I did like 3 so I'll give it a shot.

You'll like it

 

[goldenpp72]

Because sometimes there's a difference between RPG combat and Action game combat?

I don't think a lot of characters/stories in a couple of Tales games are anything that interesting, and if I do play them mostly for the combat, it's because I'm getting something I wouldn't find in Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry.



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Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, I saw nothing but generic anime conventions that were POORLY done, when I saw the pink haired bitch come up on my screen I knew shit was about to go wrong.

And hell I even enjoy a lot of anime, but like anything, only when it's well done. The cast in SO4 is so insufferable especially after playing vesperia, a perfectly localized, long, fun, well paced game with very little flaws.

I should play vesperia again.

 

[Corran Horn]

Cool, been stalling on getting star ocean for awhile now but I might just wait for ps3 version if true.

 

[Grimmy]

I wonder how many would rebuy if it they included the Japanese audio track as well.

 

[Llyranor]

This is such a weird thing to say, why would anyone buy an rpg based on a combat system that, perhaps good for an rpg, but holds nothing to games with actual focus on combat (ninja gaiden, dmc, soon to be bayonetta, etc).

Well, everything aside from the combat system was pretty much mediocre at best.

Combat has enough elements to differ it from straight action game comparisons. Toggling between 4 party members on the fly (and switching them in and out of battle also on the fly) was pretty fun. Managing the entire party during battles was enjoyable (direct controlling the one taking most of the flak, taking advantage of blindsides, tactically using rush mode). There were enough enjoyable gameplay elements in it for me to finish it. Ultimately, though, I much preferred Vesperia's combat (though a huge element of that has to do with co-op).

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't really understand how you could see the appeal of Vesperia's gameplay but not SO4's. Yes, I know, disgusting animu (and boy, it's fucking disgusting), but why do you play games?

 

[kevm3]

Awaits SE's surprise when this game sells like garbage. "What?? How could a year late port of an average game at that not sell?"

 

[DR2K]

This is such a weird thing to say, why would anyone buy an rpg based on a combat system that, perhaps good for an rpg, but holds nothing to games with actual focus on combat (ninja gaiden, dmc, soon to be bayonetta, etc).

At least vesperia had both fun combat and a good cast of chars, graphics, music, etc.

I think the only people who enjoy so4 are psychotic anime fans who love high pitched voices for no apparent reason, it didn't help that a lot of the backround cast acted like normal (and even looked normal!) human beings while the other cast were kids that looked like porcelain dolls and acted annoying.

Lets all masturbate to how awesome edge maverick (lol) is!/cast

The ignorance steaming from this post is mind numbing. :lol

RPGs can have fun, in depth game systems. I have yet to see an action game offer me anywhere near the levels of customization or options as most Tri-ace games have. If you played more than the play button on random youtube videos, you'd probably understand that. Then again, that would be me giving you too much credit.

 

[Shurs]

Tell that to the forum though. Before this leak it was deemed a shit game. Now its anticipated because its appearing on the 3rd place console that the forum cheerleads 24/7.
:lol

 

[Mahadev]

Awful game, don't do the same mistake I did and buy it.

 

[Shadowlink]

What the hell? :lol

Anyways, I guess if there are PS3 owners who wanted to play this, I guess they are happy but I heard a lot of bad things about this game.

 

[cosmicblizzard]

You'll like it

Well that settles it. I do admit, I'm a bit excited for the laughably bad voice acting/dialogue/body movements

 

[ColdSoup]

This is such a weird thing to say, why would anyone buy an rpg based on an action combat system that, perhaps good for an rpg, but holds nothing to games with actual focus on combat (ninja gaiden, dmc, soon to be bayonetta, etc).

This is precisely why I don't usually buy action rpgs.

Their combat systems won't even be close to top tier action games.

And their stories, characters, writing, and dialogue won't even be close to the best this industry has to offer (which isn't much, sadly).

 

[StuBurns]

I agree with the fact that SO4 is terrible, but why the "another" ? TOV is probably the best JRPG of this generation.

I was actually referring to Eternal Sonata, TOV is nice, but it's still pretty middle of the road.

 

[goldenpp72]

The ignorance steaming from this post is mind numbing. :lol

RPGs can have fun, in depth game systems. I have yet to see an action game offer me anywhere near the levels of customization or options as most Tri-ace games have. If you played more than the play button on random youtube videos, you'd probably understand that. Then again, that would be me giving you too much credit.

Why do i want to spend time customizing and working with stats when the game will lead into numerous shitty cutscenes, boring exploring, horrible characters and terrifying voice acting?

At least most action games only have like, 1 minute cutscenes. SO4 was rather long winded at points and is a seriously scary game.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, I saw nothing but generic anime conventions that were POORLY done, when I saw the pink haired bitch come up on my screen I knew shit was about to go wrong.

And hell I even enjoy a lot of anime, but like anything, only when it's well done. The cast in SO4 is so insufferable especially after playing vesperia, a perfectly localized, long, fun, well paced game with very little flaws.

I should play vesperia again.

I'm not saying your wrong, I can't say I enjoyed any of SO4's characters or the story, and the character types they used were annoying and/or overused, just that I wouldn't say the only ones who managed to enjoy the game are the creepy anime fans.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Considering how awful the 360 version was technically I can't imagine this working out too well.

 

[Lagunamov]

Well that settles it. I do admit, I'm a bit excited for the laughably bad voice acting/dialogue/body movements

I think SO4 is better than SO3

 

[goldenpp72]

This is precisely why I don't usually buy action rpgs.

Their combat systems won't even be close to top tier action games.

And their stories, characters, writing, and dialogue won't even be close to the best this industry has to offer (which isn't much, sadly).

For me, an rpg will be able to offer much better plot, perhaps setting and character than an action game, so if the combat is also fun its a great plus, but if everything in a jrpg sucks ass aside DECENT combat, I just don't get the point.

Even more sad, dmc4 has a much better story and chars than so4 :lol

 

[LordPhoque]

I was actually referring to Eternal Sonata, TOV is nice, but it's still pretty middle of the road.

Nah. Don't compare TOV with those garbage RPGs. It's awesome.

 

[jeremy1456]

In the very near future its going to be cool to like Star Ocean 4.

 

[MechaX]

The ignorance steaming from this post is mind numbing. :lol

RPGs can have fun, in depth game systems. I have yet to see an action game offer me anywhere near the levels of customization or options as most Tri-ace games have. If you played more than the play button on random youtube videos, you'd probably understand that. Then again, that would be me giving you too much credit.

That's cool and all, and I do admit that Star Ocean 4's combat is more fun than Vesperia's, but I can definitely understand the sentiment that people don't want to drop $60 on a game that is quite story intensive with absolutely embarrassing execution, even if it does have good battles alone.

And this is not counting in shit dungeons and a potentially good Item Creation system absolutely ruined by disk switching.

 

[lorddarkflare]

The ignorance steaming from this post is mind numbing. :lol

RPGs can have fun, in depth game systems. I have yet to see an action game offer me anywhere near the levels of customization or options as most Tri-ace games have. If you played more than the play button on random youtube videos, you'd probably understand that. Then again, that would be me giving you too much credit.

I agree with the ignorance, but that was too scathing. Just so you know, there are a class of people who find the level of customization that you enjoy to be superfluous and poor design.

I belong somewhere between where you and they stand, and for what its worth, i thought that there are worse offenders than SO4, but it IS the worst offender of the HD gen.

 

[rpgfan16k]

People can probably tell from my post history that I'm part of the 360 RPG bandwagon (money causes me to put all my eggs in one basket, sadly), so let me just warn my Ps3 brethren that this game is NOT anything special; like Eternal Sonata before it, it just screams "the potential for greatness is there, but..."

Vesperia, on the other hand, is really something special, and the extra content in the ps3 version looks to make things better. If you must choose, ps3 owners, go with the Tales game!

 

[PC Gaijin]

I've been holding off on buying SO4 360 waiting for the massive price collapse like every other JRPG on the 360. However, if it gets a PS3 port, and if it has extra content like ToV, and if it is dual audio, and if it actually gets localized and released in the US I would hold out for the PS3 version.

That's a lot of ifs. And the PS3 version might end up running at 240p if ToV PS3 is any indication.

 

[Loudninja]

I think SO4 is better than SO3

Really?thats cool than because I enjoyed SO3, only thing I dislike was the crappy special attacks Fayt had.

 

[DangerousDave]

So, the timeline then is something like this:

Star Ocean announced for 360:
- 360 fans: Star Ocean is great!!!
- PS3 fans: Star Ocean is shit!!! (but we have FF XIII)

Star Ocean launches:
- 360 fans: Star Ocean is shit!!!! (but we also have FF XIII)
- PS3 fans: Star Ocean is shit!!!!

Star Ocean announced for PS3:
- 360 fans: Star Ocean is even shitter than before!!!!
- PS3 fans: Star Ocean is a jRPG!!!

 

[Llyranor]

Well that settles it. I do admit, I'm a bit excited for the laughably bad voice acting/dialogue/body movements

If you're into the 'so bad it's good' stuff, SO4 certainly can enter that territory. The worst scene in the game is also the most hilarious scene in the game. If you don't need to take all your games seriously and don't have the maturity of a 12-yr old, you should be fine.