RedAssedApe
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averaging around 75 taken both consoles into consideration. sounds about right.
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Star Wars: Battlefront | Review Thread | A disturbance in the force
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Alcotholic
Banned
Im giving this game the benefit of the doubt. Splatoon was far from "content deep" upon release and no one expected the support to be as huge as it is. I know BF will have a season pass to support further DLC, but i'd argue that out of the box it has more variety than splatoon does. Splatoon is an incredibly fun game thats not very deep. From what ive played on the beta, BF is too.
DarthWalden
Banned
There isn't really a lack of content here and people need to stop pointing to that. This has nothing to do with maps or amount of guns or what have you. Counterstrike has like 4 maps that people play over and over and only a handful of different guns people use and it's the biggest multiplayer shooter going. Sports games have essentially one map. Those games get played for hours and hours and no one complaints about content.
The gameplay just isn't balanced, complex or challenging enough to keep players interested beyond the showy presentation. I'm guessing most people will play a couple rounds on each map and mode and move on. That's the reason it feels like there is a lack of content because the content on display here doesn't offer enough to get people coming back a 3rd or 4th time like most good multiplayer titles.
Do yourself a favour and if your on xb1 just get EA Access, the 10 hour trial should be more then enough to experience everything this game has to offer.
The gameplay just isn't balanced, complex or challenging enough to keep players interested beyond the showy presentation. I'm guessing most people will play a couple rounds on each map and mode and move on. That's the reason it feels like there is a lack of content because the content on display here doesn't offer enough to get people coming back a 3rd or 4th time like most good multiplayer titles.
Do yourself a favour and if your on xb1 just get EA Access, the 10 hour trial should be more then enough to experience everything this game has to offer.
But amount of content and depth are two different things. Isn't it possible that some people are actually fully aware of what it is that they're saying?
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Battles are complete garbage. Survival is ok but only 4 maps and no progression. EA screwed anyone who wanted a sp star wars experience. Didn't do much better for mp.
So I am on the fence, because this didn't feel like classic battlefront and though I had fun I only liked playing the unbalanced walker assault.
I haven't really read a lot about the game so if you could help out. Are there more Walker assault type scenarios? Did they balance it better? Is the dog fighting improved over the beta? Because that sucked for me.
I got a lot of friends getting it, but every review seems to hit on my worries for it. I wonder if I can still have fun with it.
I haven't really read a lot about the game so if you could help out. Are there more Walker assault type scenarios? Did they balance it better? Is the dog fighting improved over the beta? Because that sucked for me.
I got a lot of friends getting it, but every review seems to hit on my worries for it. I wonder if I can still have fun with it.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
12ish maps for a mp only game is a lack of content. It also lacks any gameplay depth.
The Jackdog
Member
inline.
if your console of choice is x1, EA access is absolutely perfect for this game. myself, ill hit the 10 hour trial mark (maybe, if that) and think ill be all done with it
AmaterasuOni
Banned
You know what's amazing? SW: The Force Awakens will sell this in the millions no matter how bad reviews it gets. PS4 Vader SKU will be sold out. Every kid wants that under their christmas tree.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Guess with his skills in MP games everything is shallow.
Like Joe. For his streams. Most of his reviews i cant really take serious. Lots of shouting and overreacting on one thing.
He's 100% correct on this game.
The Jackdog
Member
this is so silly to me.
are you saying a field in madden is the same as a multiplayer map? even if thats remotely comparable (its not), couldnt i argue theres 32 teams in a league and that means 32 stadiums and 32 maps?
Anton Sugar
Member
People reeeeeeeally need to stop bringing up Counter-Strike.
1) CS didn't launch with four (or however many "great" ones there are) perfect maps--it launched (I use that loosely, as it depends on which CS we're talking about) with many and eventually the wheat separated from the chaff
2) CS gunplay is leagues more challenging and deep than Battlefront--getting better, learning recoil patterns, how/when to hop, etc.--add depth to the game and make it inherently rewarding to play and get better at, because your skill is basically reflected at the end of the round (no kill streaks, no vehicles, nothing to bolster your kill count/score)
I think its lack of a single player story driven campaign.
Battlefront is a mp focused game... it has enough maps, modes, and customizing... not sure what more people want... the game is fun as hell and it gives a nod to the classic battlefront and the star wars universe.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
They should review what's available when the game releases. We have no idea about the quality of that content.
Anton Sugar
Member
Considering the reviews that say it doesn't have enough maps, customizing, and other content, it's pretty obvious what people want.
"Running at the still very odd 900p on PS4..."
People don't understand that 16:9 resolution is a calculated value, we only conform to standards for physical forms due to ease of manufacturing.
From a software perspective, you just multiply your vertical resolution by 1.7777777777777777777777777777778 to get the horizontal.
The maximum resolution I could push my old monitor to was 3367x1894 for example.
Seems like a fair amount out of the box.
Walker Assault - 4:
Forest Moon of Endor
Outpost Beta (Hoth)
Sorosub Complex (Sullust)
Jundland Wastes (Tattooine)
Supremacy - 4:
Forest Moon of Endor
Outpost Beta (Hoth)
Sorosub Centroplex (Sullust)
Jundland Wastes (Tattooine)
Cargo - 4:
Rebel Base (Hoth)
Rebel Depot (Tattooine)
Imperial Station (Endor)
Imperial Hangar (Sullust)
Hero Hunt - 9:
Ice Caves (Hoth)
Jawa Refuge (Tattooine)
Swamp Crash Site (Endor)
Sulfur Fields (Sullust)
Rebel Base (Hoth)
Rebel Depot (Tattooine)
Imperial Station (Endor)
Imperial Hangar (Sullust)
Dune Sea Exchange (Tattooine)
Heros vs Villains - 9:
Ice Caves (Hoth)
Jawa Refuge (Tattooine)
Swamp Crash Site (Endor)
Sulfur Fields (Sullust)
Rebel Base (Hoth)
Rebel Depot (Tattooine)
Imperial Station (Endor)
Imperial Hangar (Sullust)
Dune Sea Exchange (Tattooine)
Fighter Squadron - 4:
Outpost Beta (Hoth)
Sorosub Centroplex (Sullust)
Jundland Wastes (Tattooine)
Jawa Refuge (Tattooine)
NOTE: All four are naturally in the sky.
Blast - 9:
Ice Caves (Hoth)
Jawa Refuge (Tattooine)
Swamp Crash Site (Endor)
Sulfur Fields (Sullust)
Rebel Base (Hoth)
Rebel Depot (Tattooine)
Imperial Station (Endor)
Imperial Hangar (Sullust)
Dune Sea Exchange (Tattooine)
Droid Run - 6:
Ice Caves (Hoth)
Jawa Refuge (Tattooine)
Swamp Crash Site (Endor)
Sulfur Fields (Sullust)
Rebel Base (Hoth)
Dune Sea Exchange (Tattooine)
Drop Zone - 6:
Ice Caves (Hoth)
Jawa Refuge (Tattooine)
Swamp Crash Site (Endor)
Sulfur Fields (Sullust)
Rebel Base (Hoth)
Dune Sea Exchange (Tattooine)
SmoothRunningGun
Member
12 is still pretty low for what is essentially a mp only game. And the problem is they're split up by mode so if you only like walker assault there are only 4 maps.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What those people want.
I am content with this game. I personally do not have time for all the magnitude of what I perceive as mundane unlocks in modern shooters.
14 with Jakku in two weeks. Battlefront launched with 10 (and then people are going to break them down into modes, even though half the BF4 maps did not work well in all modes, so a 3-4 map rotation was very common per mode).
And what does "lacks any gameplay depth" mean? Care to explain blanketed statements?
prag16
Banned
How many hours have you put into it so far?
Anton Sugar
Member
I've seen the list and have played the full game for 10 hours (and the beta for 10 more). I know how many maps are in the game.
4 maps for the two biggest modes in the game, including the mode being pushed in ALL the marketing, is not enough.
...yeah, exactly? He asked what they want--I answered with a pretty obvious answer.
It's exhausting seeing "I'm having so much fun, why are other people complaining about lack of content?? I don't get it!" when reviews are clearly articulating what's missing.
DarthWalden
Banned
Your missing my point which is that a good addicting multiplayer game doesn't need a bunch of content to be good and worth it, it just needs to be fun and keep the player engaged and wanting to compete and win.
This is not a good multiplayer game and people complaining about lack of content are people that simply grew bored of the content on hand.
It's a spectacle, like a decent popcorn flick that you only watch once
I could maybe see that argument but to each his own. Maybe EA will allow freebies.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
So essentially 4 unique maps for the big modes that really matter. BF4 launched with 10.
Stop acting like this is acceptable for a $60 game.
The problem is that most of the 6v6 modes are not that great, and most people want to play Walker Assault or Supremacy which only have 4 maps.
Fighter Squadron has 4 maps but they are all essentially just window dressing that don't change anything. Not having an Endor map for this mode annoys me still for some reason.
Beer Monkey
Member
It was an observation of the thread, not a criticism of the game. Relax.
The Elite
BOSS
And Jakku will be free for everyone.
VincentMatts
Member
Why would they? They're charging 70$ for the pass and you think theyll give free maps too? Theyre taking advantage of the fact that SW fans will be willing to pay up, especially with the movie coming up and the hype its creating. EA is thinking to maximize $$ here. Id be stunned if they gave out anything other than that preorder map.
Anton Sugar
Member
We still don't know how that planet/maps will break down, unfortunately.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why do you care so much? Why not look away from this thread if it is annoying (I do all the time to threads)? What do you have to gain/lose in this discussion?
People find value in different things. Games are about fun as well. And if it plays well, check, looks and sounds great, check, and is fun for them, check again, then that is their perception of value.
This is perceived value. What you find value, will be different than what others find value in. What is annoying is arguing against someone else's perception of value.
Reviewers on not gospel in the slightest. They are gamers too, who gasp, carry the same bias responses that any of us can carry.
How is my response at all pertaining to where you thought I was thinking about the game?
I was mentioning about the value of the thread specifically. You added none to it.
And your observation is wrong, since there is actually some good conversation in here compared to most review threads.
cripterion
Member
For anyone who's on the fence about the game at least give it a try and see for yourself.
I hated it and got an insta-refund on Origin (just selected "the game wasn't really fun" answer).
I hated it and got an insta-refund on Origin (just selected "the game wasn't really fun" answer).
VibratingDonkey
Member
Yeah I'm not inherently opposed to the idea of a $60 multiplayer FPS, those Battlefield games were pretty good. But then I expect there to be a proper amount of content for that multiplayer. 4 maps for Supremacy and Walker Assault is just pathetic and unacceptable.
Of course your mileage may vary depending on what modes you care about. I care about those two.
Of course your mileage may vary depending on what modes you care about. I care about those two.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I checked, and you are correct.
Karak
Member
I understand fine and get what your saying.. I think most still hoped for 1080p as do I on the PS4. To me 900p is and always will be just plain odd even with its resource saves against 1080p. But thats just me.
EDIT that's not saying it looks bad. Before people freak lol. I think regardless of platform this thing is a looker.
WickedLaharl
Member
Imagine if the next battlefield released with only 4 maps available to play in conquest. Battlefront is like that.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
I was being sarcastic lol.. I put mediocre games at around a 6 and roughly the metacritic score is usually a close representation of games' quality but certainly never something I use as some absolute truth.. I can't take Giantbomb seriously though, those guys give the indication that they don't like videogames.. so why would I take their opinion seriously? Then there's hundreds of thousands or millions? of people that are in line with their opinion, which is why thankfully we have so many outlets to choose from.
Also anyone who puts Modern Warfare as their GOTY gets an automatic L from me.
I'm enjoying the gameplay a lot more than Battlefield. Combined with the Star Wars feel, it's been great so far.
You can play the a few modes offline,but the main meat of the game requires a Plus membership as it's online only.
Absolutely, I hope they patch that in. I like all modes I tried so far (especially Hero Hunt) and a playlist that mixes things up would be greatly appreciated.
Anton Sugar
Member
Because I think discussion of a game's value is important, and people saying "I'm having fun, I don't get it" are either so obtuse that they actually don't get it, or are ignoring what the reviews and posters are saying. I agree, I could just leave this thread, but I'm hoping the discussion will eventually rise above "I'm having fun, this game has a lot of content, I don't get it" vs "this game only has four maps, it sucks".
I think SW:BF, like Destiny, is a fascinating phenomena in the gaming world. A game that, at its core, is really fun, but is let down by its content or lack thereof. In the past, the fun factor might be enough to warrant a purchase, but I'm trying to be more evaluative and less impulsive in my purchases. I think the discussion of value is at the core of all these "don't preorder games/DLC is robbery/etc." arguments.
Maybe I'm asking for too much from a review thread :-|
The_Darkest_Red
Member
On top of removing the SP! That's exactly how I see it.
This is one of the more egregious examples of season pass content looking like it should have been in the base game in recent memory.
This, the two game modes worth playing only have 4 maps. How is that possible. Game is empty and incomplete.
http://www.gamekult.com/jeux/test-star-wars-battlefront-SU3050151047t.html#pc
7 from Gamekult! Not bad!
Like Splatoon.
7 from Gamekult! Not bad!
Like Splatoon.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Well I can completely agree with this. It was the same syndrome in the FO4 thread where people ignored (as in pretended they did not see said issues) the technical mess of that game for the same "but its fun tho", so I can see both sides of the argument.
Ultimately we do want the developers/producers to always do more, and not start doing less then charge you for more (the direction gaming seems to be headed as a service).
LordOcidax
Member
I dont know why this game reminds me Splatoon, but with payed DLC. EA need to adopt the Nintendo strategy of free dlcs (LOL Never going to happen)
RealityPales
Member
Your avatar looks... phallic.
Woo-Fu
Banned
What do you mean by the big modes the really matter? I spend most of my time playing smaller player count in modes like Drop Zone and Blast. Those are the modes that matter to me.
I think content is a silly argument for games like this as long as a game has enough to reach a critical mass of players.400+ hours in rocket arena 2, 250+ hours in tf2, was I paying too much for those games because I spent the majority of my time in each on roughly 4 maps? Don't be silly.
I'm paying for an experience, not how many lines of code are in the shipping product.