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Starfield is the fifth fastest-selling game across Europe this year.
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Mephisto40
Member
But it is counting the people that paid $30 to upgrade to the early access version
BigLee74
Member
Lots of people nursing a wee semi over Starfield’s ‘failings’ I see.
Surely this is a decent showing for a new IP that is exclusive and on the platform with the smallest user base?
I dunno.
Maybe internally MS would have hoped for better, but they have created a good game here that will be getting played for years to come by many more people.
Surely this is a decent showing for a new IP that is exclusive and on the platform with the smallest user base?
I dunno.
Maybe internally MS would have hoped for better, but they have created a good game here that will be getting played for years to come by many more people.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
Beaten only by some of the absolute biggest IPs in the history of entertainment (and Diablo lol) while the majority of people likely played on on Gamepass is surely a crazy success story. I'm surprised it's anywhere near the top never mind above stuff like RE4 and FF16.
This game will still be selling 10 years from now and probably Zelda and maybe RE4 will be too but everything else will be long forgotten.
This game will still be selling 10 years from now and probably Zelda and maybe RE4 will be too but everything else will be long forgotten.
BootsLoader
Banned
5th place, wow, blown the waters.
Ginzeen
Banned
Nah. Starfield is not a flop. That's one of narratives the Sony fanboys keep trying to push. So data like this kills that narrative lil bro5th place is now celebrated as some huge win lmao
This is literally what Starfield and Xbox fanboys and defenders look like right now
OuterLimits
Member
You people live in a strange reality. Sometimes things can fall in the middle. The game is neither a runaway success Microsoft was hoping it would be, but neither is it a complete failure. It sold fairly well on Steam and apparently decently on Xbox. Plus it likely helped GamePass subscription some, but likely not to the level Microsoft hoped for.
It is a decently reviewed game with a 83 Metacritic(once again not super fantastic but hardly a failure). Being a Bethesda game it will likely have significant DLC/Expansions in the future to drive sales, and mod support will also help keep a good sized player base on PC for quite awhile.
StereoVsn
Member
1 - I already mentioned that and heck, didn't D4 and Hogwarts also have EA?
2 - So did other games but they also included PS5 sales
Its not an amazing accomplishment but Starfield is selling better then I, personally, would have expected in Europe. Big question is on sustainment or sales.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
D4 had a similar EA, but Hogwart's only had a 3-day early access. They both are ahead of Starfield.
Games like FF16, Zelda, Dead Island 2 etc. did not have any early access period. So essentially Chris is comparing Starfield's 12-day sales with other games' 7-day (or less) sales.
No, my friend. What you're trying to match is buy to get the option to play ahead of launch for a full week and that doesn't make sense.
The vast majority of EA premiums are pre-orders before the EA date. That is, those sales were already made even if there was no EA option. The reason for those sales is mainly to play early.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Congrats to Bethesda!
After Fallout 76 I expected the game to be a disaster. Not only is it a solid game, it's performing well despite being available for free on GP.
After Fallout 76 I expected the game to be a disaster. Not only is it a solid game, it's performing well despite being available for free on GP.
FeralEcho
Member
Never said it was a flop,maybe read my post again?.. I just said being 5th place is not a huge win as people are trying to make it seem which it isnt. It aint a flop but it sure ain't the grand saviour of the Xbox brand fanboys were making it out to be.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
GFK data by Chris Dring usually includes EU + UK. It is the European continent.
Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
Sales data for Switch doen't include digital sales. Add that in and it very well could be number 1.
Killjoy-NL
Member
It's even further from the success xbox fans claimed it would be, though.
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Kurotri
Member
Xbros..we won..
On a more serious note, I like seeing this because I really love the game and the divisive reception wasn't nice to see. I don't think I'd be able to stomach it if I was a dev. Here's hoping they take lessons (because even with me liking it, I have to agree with the general metacritic score) and knock it out of the park with Elder Scrolls 6.
On a more serious note, I like seeing this because I really love the game and the divisive reception wasn't nice to see. I don't think I'd be able to stomach it if I was a dev. Here's hoping they take lessons (because even with me liking it, I have to agree with the general metacritic score) and knock it out of the park with Elder Scrolls 6.
2 weeks vs 1
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Why does this news upset you so much?
A shit ton! All were huge releases.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Honestly, considering your obsession with the game, you're kinda late. Also, nice way to make sales discussion somewhat (and unnecessarily) personal.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Starfield and Zelda were the only first party console games to crack the top ten - and Starfield’s the only game in the top ten that’s on a subscription service that cannibalizes sales.
Not bad, despite the usual faces trying to push the narrative that it’s a failure.
Not bad, despite the usual faces trying to push the narrative that it’s a failure.
Topher
Gold Member
He wrote an article about software sales. I don't see the problem.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Fantastic, GG Phil, Todd and the team at BGS.
Launching a huge new IP is never easy but they've done good.
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rhodesianshepard
Member
8 years full production probably not. But even 5-6 years is an insane amount to cover for 500 developers. Let's say an average developer makes 80,000 a year (it's definitely higher). And even if it was just 5 years of development time that is 400 mil right there. Probably add another 100- 200 mill in marketing to boot. As I said, Starfield for sure will profit, but there's no way this game cost only 200 mil
Starfield entered full production in 2020 according to Todd Howard himself.
Starfield is the fastest selling new IP in Europe 2023. Ranking 5th overall.
Is that better?
mejin
Member
I think he took personal cause people called him out last week lol
The problem is he continues the trolling.
"Starfield is the fifth fastest-selling game across Europe this year."
Fantastic news considering it is on GP!
"Starfield was technically on sale for longer due to the early access."
Oh...so it has more than 10 days on sales against a proper week one sales of all the others games...
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Topher
Gold Member
What did he get called out for?
jm89
Member
Will have to wait and see if this is just a software sales article and not european sales report. But he doesn't often report software charts for the month without hardware.
Topher
Gold Member
He's reporting GSD Data. Does that usually include hardware?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
A game doesn't need to "flop" to be seen as a disappointment, sales-wise.
The importance of whether its seen as a success or disappointment isn't judged by fanboys either, because its about what repercussions that determination has on its backer's future plans and decisions.
The question here is whether MS' brass will consider this level of success to be satisfactory, factoring in all aspects such as retail and digital sales, gamepass subs, hardware sales, etc. Because this is exactly the sort of product they'll be looking at to see if their multi-billion dollar investment was an effective use of their resources.
Its an extraordinarily important milestone for the whole Xbox division.
The importance of whether its seen as a success or disappointment isn't judged by fanboys either, because its about what repercussions that determination has on its backer's future plans and decisions.
The question here is whether MS' brass will consider this level of success to be satisfactory, factoring in all aspects such as retail and digital sales, gamepass subs, hardware sales, etc. Because this is exactly the sort of product they'll be looking at to see if their multi-billion dollar investment was an effective use of their resources.
Its an extraordinarily important milestone for the whole Xbox division.
jm89
Member
GSD only track software sales afaik.
However his monthly articles where he mentions the monthly software charts doesn't normally leave out hardware.
Again that's assuming this is his monthly report which it might not be, and he may do another article on everything.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
This is the tough reality of exclusives on Xbox, gamepass cannibalize sales and the install base is smaller to begin with. Lucky for them, steam is a thing, and a lot of people rather buy their games on steam than have to deal with the shitty Xbox store on Windows.
Kilau
Member
Do we have numbers though?
Chukhopops
Member
What I could find:
Hogwarts: 12M in the first two weeks (ww)
TotK: 10M in the first three days (ww)
Diablo: 666M USD in sales in the first 5 days so a bit less than 10M units sold?
Jedi Survivor: couldn’t find any info.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So, give or take, around 7~9 million in sales, all the while launching on game pass day 1. They got that 6m+ user count a day or so after the retail release, it's probably gonna eclipse Horizon's impressive 20m before October is over.
Seems to be doing pretty well from both sales, and user engagement metric. The publishers oughta be very happy with this.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Somehow, its negative news right?
It's low effort bullshido at this point, anything Starfield related.
It's low effort bullshido at this point, anything Starfield related.
PropellerEar
Member
it was over hyped and front-loaded and will probably fall off a cliff because of muted reception.
it will be much better at this point if people can accept game was a disappointment by all metrics possible.
this was supposed to be repeat of skyrim for gods sake, capture the zeitgeist, a cultural phenomenon, bla bla…
more like ended up a fart in space.
no one will be talking about it come november.
get over it and move on.
it will be much better at this point if people can accept game was a disappointment by all metrics possible.
this was supposed to be repeat of skyrim for gods sake, capture the zeitgeist, a cultural phenomenon, bla bla…
more like ended up a fart in space.
no one will be talking about it come november.
get over it and move on.
Buggy Loop
Member
Killjoy-NL
Member
Star Wars was just 3 days vs Starfield 10 days?
How is it impressive to end up 5th then?
SEGAvangelist
Member
You know it's on Game Pass and that the highest selling console it's releasing on can't even play a disc copy, right?
John Wick
Member
Your comparing a single platform game with 2 platform game with extra week minimum sales?