Jason Frost
Member
I didn't know that we could downvote games...
So, how do you do that and how do you see the number of games you have upvoted or downvoted?
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Steam Greenlight: 1000 games and counting, more Greenlit every few weeks
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So, how do you do that and how do you see the number of games you have upvoted or downvoted?
It's by the dude who did Scratches. And it's not like he made the rules for greenlight.
I'm at about 80 upvotes but I only vote for stuff I know something about, if I went through everything I'd just end up making snap decisions based on nothing but a screenshot.
BudokaiMR2
Member
I feel ya....I feel ya....
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I had very brief play through at PAX 2012. It's kind of like Sacrifice crossed with Unreal Tournament. It's not really a MOBA, per se. It's more like a shooter with the guns replaced by magic. I thought it was well made on the surface but I didn't do a deep dive yet.
Wok
Member
Cross-posting from the Steam thread.
This is a better selection process than Greenlight. At least once a year. I have my fingers crossed for three games I upvoted on Greenlight and which might make it through IGF.
This is a better selection process than Greenlight. At least once a year. I have my fingers crossed for three games I upvoted on Greenlight and which might make it through IGF.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Here's my plan for Valve going forward:
- Keep enhancing Greenlight's reporting stuff. Having suggested release date is a good step. I voted for Dream, but I really wouldn't have if I thought it was a 2014 release, that's mental. Consider revising what counts as a concept and what counts as a game.
- Greenlight the top 10 every month, just as you are now.
- Fast-track or greenlight anything in the top 50 to 75 that are actually released, commercially available games... with an editorial veto for stuff that's manifestly not qualified. This helps tilt the balance towards release-ready or release-near games.
- Pick a few games as an "editor's choice" every month. Say 3-5 games, regardless of votes, based on apparent quality. If you don't want to do this, have guest editors every month (Invite Terry Cavanagh to be your first editor, let's say Derek Yu as your second, one of the guys from RPS to be your third). This helps avoid obvious oversights. The IGF thing sort of applies here as well--there's an infrastructure built up outside Valve that can make this process easier. Use it.
- Provide a clear standard for smaller publishers to get full publisher status so that they can put content on Steam without having to be greenlit. The standard obviously exists now, so codify it.
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- Consider paying people for Greenlighting. I have two possible routes: One is that, say, every 100 votes gets you, say, $1 in credit on Steam. Even if the incentive is miniscule, it might get more people considering it. And it's not really all that subject to abuse, since there'd be maybe $1 in credit every month. Block new accounts from voting like you do with anything in the trading system. And the second route is a lottery. One greenlight vote (up or down) = one ticket, every month do a few draws.
Sincerely,
Stumpokapow (991 Greenlight votes)
- Keep enhancing Greenlight's reporting stuff. Having suggested release date is a good step. I voted for Dream, but I really wouldn't have if I thought it was a 2014 release, that's mental. Consider revising what counts as a concept and what counts as a game.
- Greenlight the top 10 every month, just as you are now.
- Fast-track or greenlight anything in the top 50 to 75 that are actually released, commercially available games... with an editorial veto for stuff that's manifestly not qualified. This helps tilt the balance towards release-ready or release-near games.
- Pick a few games as an "editor's choice" every month. Say 3-5 games, regardless of votes, based on apparent quality. If you don't want to do this, have guest editors every month (Invite Terry Cavanagh to be your first editor, let's say Derek Yu as your second, one of the guys from RPS to be your third). This helps avoid obvious oversights. The IGF thing sort of applies here as well--there's an infrastructure built up outside Valve that can make this process easier. Use it.
- Provide a clear standard for smaller publishers to get full publisher status so that they can put content on Steam without having to be greenlit. The standard obviously exists now, so codify it.
...
- Consider paying people for Greenlighting. I have two possible routes: One is that, say, every 100 votes gets you, say, $1 in credit on Steam. Even if the incentive is miniscule, it might get more people considering it. And it's not really all that subject to abuse, since there'd be maybe $1 in credit every month. Block new accounts from voting like you do with anything in the trading system. And the second route is a lottery. One greenlight vote (up or down) = one ticket, every month do a few draws.
Sincerely,
Stumpokapow (991 Greenlight votes)
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Deleted member 22576
Unconfirmed Member
Does greenlight notify you when a game you voted for is released? So like, in a few months or whatever when parallax is out will it remind me I wanted to buy it?
Also can I just say its staggeringly inconvenient that steam videos don't play on iOS.
Also can I just say its staggeringly inconvenient that steam videos don't play on iOS.
Wok
Member
Antichamber is already planned on Steam: it has a registry entry.
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
I like all those ideas, although the voting thing could be limited by an ammount of votes per days or weeks, so you get to choose wisely what content you vote for.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
If you favourite it, you'll get news updates from the game in your Community stream. Presumably they will choose to put out a press release when they release on Steam.
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Deleted member 22576
Unconfirmed Member
Ahhh, cool. Yeah, I'm really interested in becoming involved in the greenlight community but it seems so overwhelming, I've rated 10 games so far.
I like the idea of giving users an incentive to vote. I'd also change the button from "would buy" to something else. A lot of time you see people in the comments mention that they like the idea of a game but downvote because they wouldn't buy it, even though they could see other people enjoying the game. Letting people suggest a price would also be interesting, maybe unlock that after you have accumulated a certain amount of votes.
There should also be some common format for describing your game. Maybe have developers fill out a form that describes the core elements of the game. It is really annoying having to scroll through walls of text with background story to find some description of the game mechanics.
I think I'd even go so far as put to put games that have a gameplay video into a separate category. If a game does not even have a gameplay video it does not belong into the games section. Put that into some early prototype section or something.
PS: Are some greenlight pages region restricted? I have 981 votes and it says I have voted on everything. I did go back and change some votes, maybe that reduced my vote count?
These all really need to happen. Although I think it'd be cool if each vote had a 0.5-1% chance to give you a coupon or something. Give people that MMO grind itch.
Zero-Crescent
Member
The Leisure Suit Larry 1 Remake and They Breathe are now up on Greenlight.
Wok
Member
You cannot vote on already greenlit games. I bet you have not voted on these:
It is okay, you are only 12 games behind.
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I know I did vote on McPixel. I'm sure I've missed other stuff from the beginning though. fml.
What if it's 12 games short of the Greenlight batch. Or 12 games short of winning every steam game ever because of the dedication of voting on 991 games?! What then? I'll never vote again.
I know I did vote on McPixel. I'm sure I've missed other stuff from the beginning though. fml.
What if it's 12 games short of the Greenlight batch. Or 12 games short of winning every steam game ever because of the dedication of voting on 991 games?! What then? I'll never vote again.
j/k
A few months ago Steam launched Greenlight. A community driven approval process to get games onto the Steam store. Weve been one of the first developers to be on Steam with our two games Ichi and Castaway Paradise. Besides that we created the Green Light Bundle, a bundle website where you can try out games that are on Greenlight. It gives developers a chance to show their games to the consumers, get some money and votes in the process. Today Id like to share some info about how Ichi, Castaway Paradise and the Green Light Bundle are doing.
Lets start with the Green Light Bundle. We have released two big bundles with 9 games each and were now experimenting with highlighting just a single game at a time. You can purchase each bundle as a Pay What You Want sale. The first Green Light Bundle got a decent amount of exposure from the press. We sold more than 2000 bundles worth more than $10.000 in revenue. Almost all the revenue went to the developers, of course. The second bundle sold a little bit less but the average price was a bit higher, around $5.50USD. After these two big bundle we launched two small bundles which just one game each. These two games, Out There Somewhere and Aeon Command, skyrocketed on the Greenlight charts despite less than expected sales.
Right now were working on another big bundle with great games. It might take some time since its increasingly difficult to find great games between the hundreds of less than stellar games on Greenlight. If you know a great game that would be perfect for our bundle do not hesitate to email us at support@greenlightbundle.com.
Now on to the performance of our own games. Lets start with Castaway Paradise. Even-though the game isnt done were getting a lot of traffic on our Greenlight page. Right now were nearing 36.000 visitors and our little game has been favorited by almost 1.500 awesome gamers. Were oblivious to how many upvotes weve gotten since Steam doesnt disclose this information. But since were #81 out of hundreds of games, I think were doing pretty well. Were not in the top 10 yet, so if you can spare a vote you can click on the banner below.
Ichi on the other hand is not doing so great. The steam community is pretty hardcore and a simplistic looking puzzle game dont mix very well. Ichi is 71% on its way to the top 100 games on Greenlight. Whatever that means. With almost 20.000 visitors and over 700 favorites, Ichi is about half as popular as Castaway Paradise. Since Ichi has been downloaded almost 400.000 times and Castaway Paradise is twice as popular, I can calculate a asweomely bright future for our island simulator
More stuff on our blog.
Lets start with the Green Light Bundle. We have released two big bundles with 9 games each and were now experimenting with highlighting just a single game at a time. You can purchase each bundle as a Pay What You Want sale. The first Green Light Bundle got a decent amount of exposure from the press. We sold more than 2000 bundles worth more than $10.000 in revenue. Almost all the revenue went to the developers, of course. The second bundle sold a little bit less but the average price was a bit higher, around $5.50USD. After these two big bundle we launched two small bundles which just one game each. These two games, Out There Somewhere and Aeon Command, skyrocketed on the Greenlight charts despite less than expected sales.
Right now were working on another big bundle with great games. It might take some time since its increasingly difficult to find great games between the hundreds of less than stellar games on Greenlight. If you know a great game that would be perfect for our bundle do not hesitate to email us at support@greenlightbundle.com.
Now on to the performance of our own games. Lets start with Castaway Paradise. Even-though the game isnt done were getting a lot of traffic on our Greenlight page. Right now were nearing 36.000 visitors and our little game has been favorited by almost 1.500 awesome gamers. Were oblivious to how many upvotes weve gotten since Steam doesnt disclose this information. But since were #81 out of hundreds of games, I think were doing pretty well. Were not in the top 10 yet, so if you can spare a vote you can click on the banner below.
Ichi on the other hand is not doing so great. The steam community is pretty hardcore and a simplistic looking puzzle game dont mix very well. Ichi is 71% on its way to the top 100 games on Greenlight. Whatever that means. With almost 20.000 visitors and over 700 favorites, Ichi is about half as popular as Castaway Paradise. Since Ichi has been downloaded almost 400.000 times and Castaway Paradise is twice as popular, I can calculate a asweomely bright future for our island simulator
More stuff on our blog.
Wok
Member
I cannot find any detail about what kind of game "would be perfect for [your] bundle". I know good games which are on Greenlight, if this is what you mean. I don't know if the dev wants to try the PWYW model though.
Wok
Member
I posted some of my guesses for IGF finalists in different categories in the IGF thread. I could totally see Wooden Sen'Sey in Excellence in Visual Arts or Excellence in Audio.
Syphon Filter
Member
any word on the next batch?
BudokaiMR2
Member
Hmmm there hasn't been word of a batch in December yet has there?
I wonder if they will be skipping December because of all the sales and general busy holiday season? Would suck but seems likely...
I wonder if they will be skipping December because of all the sales and general busy holiday season? Would suck but seems likely...
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I think they may be taking a break this month because they're going to be greenlighting whoever wins at the IGF.
Wok
Member
All the main finalists. And we will know on January, 7th 2013.
Knytt Undergroud has been put on Greenlight. I thought this game had a publisher. Now it will probably have an even harder time than Shantae and La-Mulana.
Syphon Filter
Member
How do you check ranks?
HadesGigas
Member
The developer sees their rank (if they're in the top 100), and they announce it to everyone to keep hype rolling.
Private Infiltrator devs just released an alpha on desura.
D3RANG3D
Member
Legends of Eisenwald
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113108799&searchtext=
Army and Strategy: The Crusades
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111828949&searchtext=
Telepath Tactics
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111308792&searchtext=
Neon
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111075014&searchtext=
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113108799&searchtext=
Army and Strategy: The Crusades
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111828949&searchtext=
Telepath Tactics
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111308792&searchtext=
Neon
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111075014&searchtext=
Please upvote this, Knytt is one of my favourite indies
Fare Godmace
Member
Why the dead are alive. Trolling, or just cringe-worthy?
The first trailer at least shows some gameplay, but the second one, the descriptions and some of the pictures are just too much. Thankfully, that's 100$ that goes to charity!
The first trailer at least shows some gameplay, but the second one, the descriptions and some of the pictures are just too much. Thankfully, that's 100$ that goes to charity!
Wok
Member
Cross-posting because Wooden Sen'Sey is one of the very few games I have upvoted on Greenlight!
Edit: Nothing new under the sun, but I doubt Dream will make it.
Will probably be green lit before Pinball Arcade.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I've been drooling over Cannon Brawl since I first played it at PAX. It's the best artillery game since Worms: Armageddon. Judging by the lack of comments, it could really use some votes right now. There's a free demo coming out soonish.
The Cat Lady (from creator of Downfall) - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=114327732
Family Fry
Member
Was just coming on here to post about The Cat Lady on Greenlight but robtnik beat me to it by country mile. Needs somes votes people, I urge people to give the demo a try tis quite an unsettling game the good horror kind of way.
The Cat Lady Demo
Finally voted through the entire list I had, 1030 games voted on.
325 +
705 -
The Cat Lady Demo
Finally voted through the entire list I had, 1030 games voted on.
325 +
705 -
Visualante2
Member
Incredipede reminds me of Sodaplay crossed with Karl Sims' work with great art.
edit. OMG at Windward, finally the Overboard! sequel it deserves.
edit. OMG at Windward, finally the Overboard! sequel it deserves.
Wok
Member
Personaly, I have not upvoted all of these. I am using my favorites for both games I upvote and games I am on the verge of upvoting.
This looks like a great Fire Emblem-like game, and it even has a skirmish mode. I hope the Kickstarter makes it.