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Steam Machine unboxing
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Captain Tuttle
Member
my precious
What DRM are you referring to? The Steam client has an offline mode that operates indefinitely if you so desire.
I'm also interested in impressions of this. It seemed like it worked okay for Don't Starve.
Can you buy and download new games while staying in permanent offline mode? I didn't think it allowed that since I would think the same mechanism used to update games is used to download them.
Game developers can choose not to incorporate Steam DRM, and the offline mode requires no check-in whatsoever.
No, but why would you want to?
What are you talking about?
How do you propose going online, buying games, downloading them, all while staying offline? Seems like an impossibility to me.
Well,
Steam has no requirement to check in with their system unless it is technically required (like when buying or activating a game) and thus it is possible to pull it offline for any amount of time and still be able to play most games (unlike the old XB1 setup that needed you to check in every 24 hours).
You also do not need to dual boot a Steam Machine to have games that do not use Steam's DRM, you can go into the desktop mode and run non Steam games (as long the game has a Linux version or support under WINE).
shackdaddy836
Banned
Felix Lighter
Member
Along with the fact that Steam DRM is less draconian than what MS was purposing, Valve has a proven track record of providing real benefits with their digital download service, with fair pricing and functionality you pay extra for on consoles, making users more willing to deal with the trade offs. Microsoft does not have a similar track record and the fact that they would still have been beholden to retail, it was hard to imagine a sudden shift in that direction. They also have shown a willingness to drop services they no longer feel fit in their current strategy. Valve is expanding a proven service. MS was asking us to forget the past and trust them completely with their new platform.
I'm convinced you people have a different definition of loud or you're living in some arctic environment.
I've already spoken to several others about this and read enough posts online, I'm pretty confident this is Sony fans unwilling to concede anything could be bad with the console at all.
Killzone most definitely drives PS4 fan noise up to PS3 slim stage 2 of 3 levels, I haven't heard it as loud as 3/3 but it's not far from it.
This "you must have a faulty PS4" stuff is cobblers.
EDIT: it's about 72f in Melbourne, inside my apartment now as summer is about to start,... it's not even close to proper warm yet. I've already ordered 2 silent, external fans to try to keep the thing quieter. Why the fuck they couldn't build it 10% bigger and focus on noise is beyond me, I get it's stylish but it's almost arguably too small.
iceDragon7
Banned
All that power is nice but aren't there some big titles that aren't on steam?
Basileus777
Member
Oh god at the cameraman in the booting video.
Playing Portal + some menu nav
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC2go6LiDco
Metro LL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_k9EklXqqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC2go6LiDco
Metro LL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_k9EklXqqU
dragonflys545
Member
I still think that controller looks dumb ass hell.
Looks like he/she was really fascinated by the geforce logo
Yeah. There's also some big titles that aren't on consoles.
Yep, like LoL and WoW, but I'll just play those on my PS4... oh wait.
If you asked any non-gamer walking down the street to describe an X360 controller, "dumb as hell" may not be that uncommon...
All controllers look objectively wierd, but we grow accustomed to them.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Wow at the 300 holes being notches for each user. I assume the white circle indicates which user you are. I wonder where 1 starts and whether they count horizontally or vertically. I'd love to see whoever got number 1.
Really wish I got into this program. So lucky. Plus they get to keep it? That's pretty cool. It looks pretty powerful already.
Can Windows still be installed onto these prototypes? This reminds me of the Google Cr-48 program. I still have my Cr-48 ChromeBook. I don't use it though. If I had a Steam Machine, I'd sure as hell get some use out of it.
Personally I can't wait for CES and the official release of all the upcoming models and configurations. (Hopefully some of them will have an optional Windows dual-boot inclusion so I don't have to worry about installing it myself.)
Really wish I got into this program. So lucky. Plus they get to keep it? That's pretty cool. It looks pretty powerful already.
Can Windows still be installed onto these prototypes? This reminds me of the Google Cr-48 program. I still have my Cr-48 ChromeBook. I don't use it though. If I had a Steam Machine, I'd sure as hell get some use out of it.
Personally I can't wait for CES and the official release of all the upcoming models and configurations. (Hopefully some of them will have an optional Windows dual-boot inclusion so I don't have to worry about installing it myself.)
iceDragon7
Banned
That wasnt my point. It was actually the other. Wouldn't it be better to just build a PC and have steam, origin, amazon and whatever else? Steam only seems kinda restrictive.
This is a PC. You can install Windows on it and use it like normal a normal PC if you want. This is Valve's attempt at a "console" box running on an open source OS.
edit: controller overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyaZHFyoLlg
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I see more as Valves attempt at standardizing PC gaming specifications to make it easier for people who just want a gaming PC without having to figure out what parts to buy and assembling it themselves.
I cannot wait personally.
I cannot wait personally.
You could install Windows on these if you so choose. We also can't say for sure that SteamOS will necessarily lock out other storefronts.
It doesn't, if you enable the desktop you can use it like any other Linux machine. That includes installing Linux versions of games not published on Steam. (DRM-free, hypothetical Origin client, whatever)
iceDragon7
Banned
Oh ok.
Nice! Think someone will try to get the windows Steam client running under Wine?
Kinky John
Member
That guy's cat loves being on camera.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Can't believe they managed to fit a freaking GTX TITAN in there. It takes up 1/3 of the entire box. JESUS.
What is Titan on paper.. twice the CUDA cores of the GPU in Xbox One?
What is Titan on paper.. twice the CUDA cores of the GPU in Xbox One?
TouchMyBox
Member
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I love that up until today, the only videos he had were of his cat from 2 years ago.
No one seems to have tested it out with an Xbox 360 controller. I wonder if the button icons will change to the colored Xbox buttons if you have one plugged in. I hope so. I mean, I don't really know if I'd like the Steam Controller. I do not like touch pads for directional controls. If I wanted to use touch pads, I'd play DOOM on my iPad/iPhone more often than almost never.
Though I'll probably be looking into a keyboard/trackpad combo (No. No mouse. No mouse. Cannot use a mouse for FPS. No mouse.) or probably just sync my Apple keyboard and trackpad to it for FPS games.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The controller is the only part of this that isn't dumb.
Sell it to me now, Gabe.
It's better to talk of GPUs in term of processing elements (plus CUDA is an Nvidia specific term, Xbox technically has none because it's an AMD GPU), since that's how many instances of the same kernel it can run simultaneously.
Its really had for me to get excited about this thing seeing as Im typing on my PC thats right beside my TV in the living room that has a WiiU, XBONE, and one day a PS4....
I love you Valve, and I think your on to something big...but its going to be a while before you get there...
I love you Valve, and I think your on to something big...but its going to be a while before you get there...
flamingotripod
Member
man it is butt ugly. If it didnt have the nvidia light on the side it would be identical to my current cable box
Titan could run circles around xbone and ps4 multiple times, and tech is only going to get better and better.
Sony better have their VR thing ready soon...because I would think SteamBox + Oculus Rift looks damn tempting for Console gamers who want that experience but don't want to go through the whole building/maintaining your PC thing.
I might have to go PS4 & SteamBox this gen.
Mods for MultiPlat games to support Oculus Rift will definitely be the reason I finally make the purchase.
I might have to go PS4 & SteamBox this gen.
Mods for MultiPlat games to support Oculus Rift will definitely be the reason I finally make the purchase.
ashecitism
Member
TF2 gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftNIgjK9tO8
That's what I thought -- so why did you propose this?
The offline mode does you no good if you ever go online again, since whatever evil fate someone might think could happen DRM-wise will just happen then.
Dreams-Visions
Member
he REALLY needs to up the sensitivity. that was just dumb. he should have thought about that before posting a video, tbh.
But it's not. Even Steamworks games aren't required to be tethered to the client.
Here is a list. I'm not sure how accurate it may be.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
The OP bailed on the thread (he hasn't updated the list in over a year), but the other folks who participate do a good job of keeping track.
Kite
Member
It is the same old mouse + keyboard vs controller argument, anyone using the stream machine controller is going to get destroyed by any decently skilled regular pc users edit: in shooters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p37YssfPmrI