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Suikoden II |OT| The Affordable 108

Well, Suikoden 1 and 2 did manage to top the PSN sales in the US for the month of December. It is not often that the likes of Final Fantasy, Crash, Spyro, Resident Evil, and GTA give way to other franchises, but Suikoden managed it for a small time at least.

I'm holding out hope for Suikoden 1&2 HD.

I'd buy it at a high price
 
Since this is a Suikoden II centric thread, just wanted to share this sweet piece of key art that Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II & III artist) did for the Genso Suikoden Kiwami Encyclopedia book~

It is of an epilogue scene that takes place a few years after the true end of Suikoden II, so it's spoilery :)

Suikoden II Epilogue Key Art


Click if you'd like to view, and enjoy! :3
 
Since this is a Suikoden II centric thread, just wanted to share this sweet piece of key art that Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II & III artist) did for the Genso Suikoden Kiwami Encyclopedia book~

It is of an epilogue scene that takes place a few years after the true end of Suikoden II, so it's spoilery :)

Suikoden II Epilogue Key Art


Click if you'd like to view, and enjoy! :3
It's too beautiful. ;_;

I guess this confirms a lot of speculation.
Whether or not Riou, Nanami & Jowy actually met up with Jillia and Pilika. I love that this confirms that Mukumuku continued to live with them too.

Edit: I need to get that Encyclopedia.
 
It's too beautiful. ;_;

I guess this confirms a lot of speculation.
Whether or not Riou, Nanami & Jowy actually met up with Jillia and Pilika. I love that this confirms that Mukumuku continued to live with them too.

Edit: I need to get that Encyclopedia.

It was only available via the Konami store and was very expensive and hard to get >.<

But totally worth it :D

This is what it looks like:

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It also contains other exclusive pieces of key art from Suikoden 1-5 by the series 3 artists, Junko Kawano, Fumi Ishikawa, and King :)

It also comes with the Suikoden 1 key art re-created by Fumi Ishikawa, which is pretty amazing <3
 
It was only available via the Konami store and was very expensive and hard to get >.<

But totally worth it :D

This is what it looks like:

H7BU9Xq.jpg



It also contains other exclusive pieces of key art from Suikoden 1-5 by the series 3 artists, Junko Kawano, Fumi Ishikawa, and King :)

It also comes with the Suikoden 1 key art re-created by Fumi Ishikawa, which is pretty amazing <3
Yeah, I've known of it since it was announced. Sad that it apparently has Tierkreis stuff in it too. :/

One day I'll have my own copy.
 
Since this is a Suikoden II centric thread, just wanted to share this sweet piece of key art that Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II & III artist) did for the Genso Suikoden Kiwami Encyclopedia book~

It is of an epilogue scene that takes place a few years after the true end of Suikoden II, so it's spoilery :)

Suikoden II Epilogue Key Art


Click if you'd like to view, and enjoy! :3

Lovely, but I'd hesitate to say it's actually part of the canon.
 
Yeah, I've known of it since it was announced. Sad that it apparently has Tierkreis stuff in it too. :/

One day I'll have my own copy.

Yeah, I ended up scanning the whole thing @_@ (which is like 1000 pages), sans the Tierkreis section, for obvious reasons haha
 
Lovely, but I'd hesitate to say it's actually part of the canon.
Why? I see no reason it wouldn't be.

The good ending of Suikoden II leads right up to it.

Yeah, I ended up scanning the whole thing @_@ (which is like 1000 pages), sans the Tierkreis section, for obvious reasons haha
OMG, I'm so jealous.

Tell me all the secrets. Is there full body art for L'Rulodia, Chuchara, the four non-star dogs and the Do Re Mi elves????
 
It was only available via the Konami store and was very expensive and hard to get >.<

But totally worth it :D

This is what it looks like:

H7BU9Xq.jpg



It also contains other exclusive pieces of key art from Suikoden 1-5 by the series 3 artists, Junko Kawano, Fumi Ishikawa, and King :)

It also comes with the Suikoden 1 key art re-created by Fumi Ishikawa, which is pretty amazing <3

Dang... I want that so bad... I'm super jelly. :(
 
Why? I see no reason it wouldn't be.

The good ending of Suikoden II leads right up to it.


OMG, I'm so jealous.

Tell me all the secrets. Is there full body art for L'Rulodia, Chuchara, the four non-star dogs and the Do Re Mi elves????

Rulodia yes, basically just a recolor of Abizboah's art, Chuchara is just his avatar art.

The dogs, just their bust art, the DoReMi elves just in-game screenshots.
 
Rulodia yes, basically just a recolor of Abizboah's art, Chuchara is just his avatar art.

The dogs, just their bust art, the DoReMi elves just in-game screenshots.
I was just looking through my huge Suikoden image file, and I found the full body Rulodia art, so I've def looked for it before. XD

That really is so cool that you have a copy of the encyclopedia. I hope you'll share a little bit more of it with us sometime, I know there's a lot of hardcore Suikoden nuts here.
 
Really cool to see all the love for a classic that I never gave a fair shake all those years ago. I don't own a PS3 or a VITA presently but would be willing to buy one or the other to play Suikoden 1 and 2. How do they look on the PS3 on a large screen?

Thanks.
 
I was just looking through my huge Suikoden image file, and I found the full body Rulodia art, so I've def looked for it before. XD

That really is so cool that you have a copy of the encyclopedia. I hope you'll share a little bit more of it with us sometime, I know there's a lot of hardcore Suikoden nuts here.

Well, because I'm such a nice guy and hardcore Suikoden fan~
Favorite series character is Pesmerga!

Here is some of the good stuff~

The Suikoden games covered in the Encyclopedia

Suikoden 1-5 Heroes (Drawn By Suikoden 2&3 artist, Fumi Ishikawa)

Suikoden 2 Epilogue Key Art (Drawn By Suikoden 2&3 artist, Fumi Ishikawa)

Suikoden 3 Heroes (Drawn By Suikoden 2&3 artist, Fumi Ishikawa)

Suikoden 3 Antagonists (Drawn By Suikoden 2&3 artist, Fumi Ishikawa)

Suikoden 1 Key Art (Drawn By Suikoden 2&3 artist, Fumi Ishikawa)

Suikoden 1 Ted & Tir McDohl (Drawn By Suikoden 1&4 artist, Junko Kawano)


Suikoden 4 Lazlo & Snowe & Friends (Drawn By Suikoden 1&4 artist, Junko Kawano)

Suikoden 4 Edgar & Kika & Brandeau (Drawn By Suikoden 1&4 artist, Junko Kawano)

Reduced the resolution by over half and made them JPGs, just FYI

Hope everyone enjoys!
 
Since this is a Suikoden II centric thread, just wanted to share this sweet piece of key art that Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II & III artist) did for the Genso Suikoden Kiwami Encyclopedia book~

It is of an epilogue scene that takes place a few years after the true end of Suikoden II, so it's spoilery :)

Suikoden II Epilogue Key Art


Click if you'd like to view, and enjoy! :3
Thank you for this. It puts me at ease for how sad I felt
regarding Jowy never getting to see Jillia and Pilika again. Makes me happy to know that they got their happy ending.. unexpected for such a grim and dark game but one that makes me very happy and satisfied.
 
Thank you for this. It puts me at ease for how sad I felt
regarding Jowy never getting to see Jillia and Pilika again. Makes me happy to know that they got their happy ending.. unexpected for such a grim and dark game but one that makes me very happy and satisfied.

I couldn't agree more! It's pretty picture perfect ;)
It's interesting to see how everyone looks a little bit older, especially Pilika! Also, Jowy looking suave with the short hair cut haha And of course, Jillia, Pilika, and Jowy looking like a nice, happy family :3
 
Heh, I totally forgot Akselziys, do Pohl and Ellie have full body art? (Poor Pohl, no one ever talks about him.)

What about that random Knight of Gaien that joins you in Suikoden IV briefly? XD
 
Thank you very much for the pictures Akselziys!

The Suikoden 2 Epilogue Key Art is incredibly heartwarming (spoilers for those for didn't unlock Suikoden 2 true ending yet).
 
I'm holding out hope for Suikoden 1&2 HD.

I'd buy it at a high price

I'd buy a HD collection of 3-5 at even a higher price!

Especially if it corrects problems like 5's notorious (though it didn't bother me much) loading.

God I *LOVE* Suikoden 5.

Since this is a Suikoden II centric thread, just wanted to share this sweet piece of key art that Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II & III artist) did for the Genso Suikoden Kiwami Encyclopedia book~

It is of an epilogue scene that takes place a few years after the true end of Suikoden II, so it's spoilery :)

Suikoden II Epilogue Key Art


Click if you'd like to view, and enjoy! :3

Noooooooooooooooooooo not at imgur! >________________________________<
 
It was only available via the Konami store and was very expensive and hard to get >.<

But totally worth it :D

This is what it looks like:

H7BU9Xq.jpg



It also contains other exclusive pieces of key art from Suikoden 1-5 by the series 3 artists, Junko Kawano, Fumi Ishikawa, and King :)

It also comes with the Suikoden 1 key art re-created by Fumi Ishikawa, which is pretty amazing <3

Whoa AWESOMESAUCE!!

Who at Konami do we have to beg for a re-print?

And LOL 1080 pages!
http://www.konami.jp/products/style_nm0275/
 
Since this is a Suikoden II centric thread, just wanted to share this sweet piece of key art that Fumi Ishikawa (Suikoden II & III artist) did for the Genso Suikoden Kiwami Encyclopedia book~

It is of an epilogue scene that takes place a few years after the true end of Suikoden II, so it's spoilery :)

Suikoden II Epilogue Key Art


Click if you'd like to view, and enjoy! :3

I am not crying, i have something in my eye....
 
I'd buy a HD collection of 3-5 at even a higher price!

Especially if it corrects problems like 5's notorious (though it didn't bother me much) loading.

God I *LOVE* Suikoden 5.


I love, love, LOVE, Suikoden 5 too :) Hard to choose between 2 & 5 for me, but I love all 5 games, and Rhapsodia (IV-2), and Suikogaiden 1 & 2, which you guys have to play if not for the awesomeness that is Nash Latkje (who also appears in Suikoden 3, but for the extended and additional Suikoden 1 & 2 story developments/info. :)


Also, speaking of Nash, since I also consider him a hero I
sloppily
inserted him into the Suikoden 1-5 heroes pic haha

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And of course, can't forget Geddoe of Chris Lightfellow, so one more Suikoden heroes pic for the road ;)

fAnUsyF.jpg


Don't ask what Riou is measuring lol


And one last quip, the art of Suikoden 2 hero Riou in armor is pretty great if you haven't seen it, as is the pic of Suikoden 4 hero Lazlo
en Kuldes in his royal outfit
:)

Also, random fact, but I'll usually refer to the Suikoden 5 hero as Faroush Falenas, since Faroush is the name King (Suikoden 5 artist) used in the Suikoden 5 japanese blog when showing off the game before it came out.

Otherwise, I'd probably call him Freyjadour Falenas, like he's called in the novel, by most everyone else.
 
I love, love, LOVE, Suikoden 5 too :) Hard to choose between 2 & 5 for me, but I love all 5 games, and Rhapsodia (IV-2), and Suikogaiden 1 & 2, which you guys have to play if not for the awesomeness that is Nash Latkje (who also appears in Suikoden 3, but for the extended and additional Suikoden 1 & 2 story developments/info. :)


Also, speaking of Nash, since I also consider him a hero I
sloppily
inserted him into the Suikoden 1-5 heroes pic haha

xrGMEQR.png



And of course, can't forget Geddoe of Chris Lightfellow, so one more Suikoden heroes pic for the road ;)

fAnUsyF.jpg


Don't ask what Riou is measuring lol


And one last quip, the art of Suikoden 2 hero Riou in armor is pretty great if you haven't seen it, as is the pic of Suikoden 4 hero Lazlo
en Kuldes in his royal outfit
:)

Also, random fact, but I'll usually refer to the Suikoden 5 hero as Faroush Falenas, since Faroush is the name King (Suikoden 5 artist) used in the Suikoden 5 japanese blog when showing off the game before it came out.

Otherwise, I'd probably call him Freyjadour Falenas, like he's called in the novel, by most everyone else.
What about Thomas??? ;_;

Also, def team Freyjadour.
 
For Thomas, please refer to:

Suikoden 3 Heroes (Drawn By Suikoden 2&3 artist, Fumi Ishikawa)

Can't win them all ;-; haha
One thing that's really awesome that I don't think gets brought up enough is the diversity of the Suikoden III protagonists.

The canon main character is a minority, and you've also got a really awesome and non-exploited female protag to choose from. Plus, an old dude! (Which is very rare for JRPGs.) And then you have Thomas, who in any other JRPG would be the average everyman teen/young adult hero, but in this game he's only interested in running the castle and supporting his friends. And don't forget the dog and
MAIN VILLAIN.
*Major Suikoden III Spoiler*

I think that's really neat.
 
Everyone knows the real protagonist of Suiko III is the flame champion.

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He has the hero look, the story relevance, and you even name him. He is in every way the successor to Tir and Riou - the only difference being that you play part 2 of his story, after he's already bowed out. Suiko III is unique in a lot of ways, but one of the most interesting things it did was make the hero's journey the backdrop for the story, rather than the story being told. If anything, Suiko III's present is a story mostly about HUGE SPOILERS
Luc, the villain.
 
Everyone knows the real protagonist of Suiko III is the flame champion.

6186-57612385.png


He has the hero look, the story relevance, and you even name him. He is in every way the successor to Tir and Riou - the only difference being that you play part 2 of his story, after he's already bowed out. Suiko III is unique in a lot of ways, but one of the most interesting things it did was make the hero's journey the backdrop for the story, rather than the story being told. If anything, Suiko III's present is a story mostly about HUGE SPOILERS
Luc, the villain.
It's not really his story though (the person), it's The Flame Champion's story, which is a title, not a specific individual. I do enjoy the juxtaposition of that, but I wouldn't call him the protagonist by a long shot.

(Though I would love to see a game from his perspective.)
 
I'm going to try to get all the characters this time in Suikoden II. I don't know if I'm going to make it through
Clive's
subquest though. I'm on my way to Lakewest at 9 hours.
 
Thanks again. <3

The Suikoden Card Game had a lot of amazing artwork.
 
Just downloaded and bought this... I finished up Dragon Age Inquisition at 150 hours, and though I could probably enjoy another playthrough, I want to continue through my list of fantasy games I've been saving for the last couple years. Dragon Age INQ and Witcher 3 (obviously later) for newer games, but also maybe Shadows of Mordor if it goes on sale, and then also replays of FF Tactics, Tactics Ogre, and Suikoden 2 (all while watching Game of Thrones for the first time). Basically swords, castles, and wars/politics non-stop.

Think I've beat this game 4 or 5 times now, but I haven't played it in at least 6 years. It's still in my top five though. Interesting thing is I was so taken aback the first time I played it. I bought Suikoden 2 at release but I hadn't played the original... but I did know about it. I remember very clearly the Suikoden 1 preview in GameFan magazine that highlighted all the castle features, and I found it interesting but I was just too busy with Final Fantasy VII/Tactics. But then when Suikoden 2 released, PSM wrote a really good review on it, and that reminded me of the GameFan review, so I ended up buying it.

And I played it the same day I finished FF VIII... that was a visual shock, to say the least. I felt like I was jumping from a top PSX game to a top SNES game. Within 10 minutes though, I was hooked, and the funny thing is, I think Suikoden 2 aged better and is actually the better looking game today.

Big fan of the series... beat every one, even IV (which, aesthetically and creatively, I hated) multiple times. I usually hate most JRPG cartoon art styles but Suikoden is the one JRPG that I'll play no matter what. Hope the PSclassic does well... wish they'd make a new one, or at least re-release the entire series as 1 title with maybe bonus features for playing them all together (more data transfers or something). Or just make a Suikode VI.
 
So READY to try this out, playing through Suikoden 1 right now (I bought it when it first came out to the PSN long, long ago, but it didn't click till now) and am having a blast, and can't wait to see what II improves on. The Army Battles are a bit dull (I don't see any point in using all the extra abilities when Thief/Ninja work well enough, and then just using the toughest Charge/Arrow/Magic), and some of the Recruits are just so boring with one repeating line of dialogue, so I'm interested to see if Suikoden II fixes that.

What would people say are the best tips for going into Suikoden II? Like for Suikoden I it was "use Pahn and keep him leveled up", "train at Great Forest", and "watch for the event flag for Leon"?
 
So READY to try this out, playing through Suikoden 1 right now (I bought it when it first came out to the PSN long, long ago, but it didn't click till now) and am having a blast, and can't wait to see what II improves on. The Army Battles are a bit dull (I don't see any point in using all the extra abilities when Thief/Ninja work well enough, and then just using the toughest Charge/Arrow/Magic), and some of the Recruits are just so boring with one repeating line of dialogue, so I'm interested to see if Suikoden II fixes that.

What would people say are the best tips for going into Suikoden II? Like for Suikoden I it was "use Pahn and keep him leveled up", "train at Great Forest", and "watch for the event flag for Leon"?
All those things are definitely improved in Suikoden II.

Speaking of War Battles, one tip I can give you for SII is that someone (very easy to miss) can be recruited during one of the early battles. Make sure you pay attention to that. (Who it is should be fairly obvious once you get there.)
 
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