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Summer 2011 Anime Thread II of IKUHARA'S RETURN, Penguins, and Idols

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Branduil said:
That sounds exactly like the kind of stupid, ignorant decision that a Japanese company would force on an American one.
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Well, Manga Entertainment is a terribly incompetent company so it's probably their fault.

As for 2.0, it's like the George Lucas'd (well, visually. no stupid awful changes to the core film afaik) version of GITS:
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Yes, the amazing & memorable opening sequence is replaced with CG. Barf.

Thankfully, Oshii is not completely insane like Lucas and lets the original movie out in proper releases rather than Laserdisc rips as an extra on DVD rereleases. Although, the US version of the GITS 2.0 Blu-ray came with a Laserdisc rip of the original movie as an extra, lol. But he didn't have anything to do with that.
 
cajunator said:
Nope. 2008 was a great year.
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We're talking relatively here. It has a number of good shows, but other years (e.g. 2007, obviously) have more shows and more shows of a higher calibre, making 2008 worse by comparison.
Dance In My Blood said:
They didn't even stick to one theme within a single analogy, it really bothered me. Still, a better episode than the last few.
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They were pretty much just throwing stuff at the wall.
 
Jexhius said:
[Anne of Green Gables 3]

This show is pretty great. There's only been like four conversations in three episodes, but they've been awesome.

They did throw in a padding scene with an insert song, which was a bit lame, but I can forgive them this time.
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The ending of episode 3 kill me everytime a little bit.

The leave-taking of Anne from Green Gables and Matthew.
 
Aigis said:
Well, Manga Entertainment is a terribly incompetent company so it's probably their fault.

As for 2.0, it's like the George Lucas'd (well, visually. no stupid awful changes to the core film afaik) version of GITS:
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Yes, the amazing & memorable opening sequence is replaced with CG. Barf.

Thankfully, Oshii is not completely insane like Lucas and lets the original movie out in proper releases rather than Laserdisc rips as an extra on DVD rereleases. Although, the US version of the GITS 2.0 Blu-ray came with a Laserdisc rip of the original movie as an extra, lol. But he didn't have anything to do with that.
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cosmicblizzard said:
Only saw the first episode years ago. I might like it if I watched more.
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First episode is indeed awful. Everything else outside a few spots near the end of the show is gravy though.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Not only CG'd to hell and back but the color scheme was changed inexplicably from blue to some pinkish sepia bullshit too.
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It looks more like Innocence that way, I think. Oshii just wanted the movies to rhyme.

One of the more offensive changes to me (being a filthy videophile and all) is that they didn't even do proper grain removal to give it the clean digital look they were going for. It's just gaussian blurred away. What the fuck?
 
Branduil said:
Why exactly is the first episode so bad?
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It doesn't make any sense and is far inferior to the crime syndicate stuff that dominates most of the show. Granted the show returns to that sillyness near the end, but it is at least explained by that point.
 
Look at all these characters that no one gives a shit about.
D03
1st 158 Ritos Tortilla @ Shukufuku No Campanella
2nd 113 Riko Mikogami @ Animal Detectives Kiruminzoo
3rd 99 Natsuru Senou @ Kampfer

D07
1st 199 Isana Tachibana @ Dream Eater Merry
2nd 108 Evangeline A. K. McDowell @ Negima
3rd 75 Satellizer El Bridget @ Freezing

D11
1st 143 Tsugiko Zenigata @ Detective Opera Milky Holmes
2nd 122 Toshiko Tatsuno @ Soredemo Machi Wa Mawatteiru
3rd 111 Naru Ootori @ Oretachi Ni Tsubasa Wa Nai
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These ones, however, I'm sure some people do.

 
Aigis said:
Well, Manga Entertainment is a terribly incompetent company so it's probably their fault.

As for 2.0, it's like the George Lucas'd (well, visually. no stupid awful changes to the core film afaik) version of GITS:
HF7Y1563_ghost-in-the-shell_2.jpg

HF7Y1562_ghost-in-the-shell_2.jpg

HF7Y1566_ghost-in-the-shell_2.jpg


Yes, the amazing & memorable opening sequence is replaced with CG. Barf.

Thankfully, Oshii is not completely insane like Lucas and lets the original movie out in proper releases rather than Laserdisc rips as an extra on DVD rereleases. Although, the US version of the GITS 2.0 Blu-ray came with a Laserdisc rip of the original movie as an extra, lol. But he didn't have anything to do with that.
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WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IS THIS?
 
Aigis said:
Well, Manga Entertainment is a terribly incompetent company so it's probably their fault.

~snip


Yes, the amazing & memorable opening sequence is replaced with CG. Barf.

Thankfully, Oshii is not completely insane like Lucas and lets the original movie out in proper releases rather than Laserdisc rips as an extra on DVD rereleases. Although, the US version of the GITS 2.0 Blu-ray came with a Laserdisc rip of the original movie as an extra, lol. But he didn't have anything to do with that.
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I haven't seen GITS 2.0 so I'm obviously not getting the full context. Can you see the cars on the streets in the rest of the opening? It seems like 2.0 has fewer details than the original.
 
Erigu said:
Ueda Makoto probably is the guy you should look into, as far as the actual plot is concerned.


Not exactly, no. Now, I haven't read the whole thing yet, but from what I can tell...
The novel is divided into 4 episodes /
parallel worlds
:
1)
The film circle Misogi / Black Cupid one
2)
The disciple / Proxy Proxy War one
3)
The soft ball circle Honwaka / romantic intrigues one
4)
The secret society / "4 1/2 tatami world" one
The TV series took bits and parts here and there, and
rearranged the whole thing as 10 different parallel worlds (although episodes 6, 7 and 8 could be said to take place in the same one until the narrator picks a girl)
. So it's both surprisingly faithful to the novel (not just in spirit either: the setting and characters are very much there) and an impressive adaptation effort.
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Hrm. I just think the second set of
repetitions in the anime (the three "girls")
felt thematically and structurally unnecessary, but I can see why that would make more sense than trying to adapt the novel following its structure. I wonder if it would have worked better with longer two-part episodes as opposed to individual, self contained episodes.
 
Instro said:
It doesn't make any sense and is far inferior to the crime syndicate stuff that dominates most of the show. Granted the show returns to that sillyness near the end, but it is at least explained by that point.
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Perhaps it's actually a deliberate piece of foreshadowing that will warn you about where the show is eventually heading!
 
Squid Girl - Ep. 1

So based on cajunator's mentioning of it and nobody mocking him for it, I decided to give it a whirl (mostly based on the title alone). Good thing too, because I'm just in the mood for a moeblob slice-of-life at the moment. The premise and the art are good, so I think I'll watch through the whole thing.

Also, lolmosquito.
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CatPee said:
Squid Girl - Ep. 1

So based on cajunator's mentioning of it and nobody mocking him for it, I decided to give it a whirl (mostly based on the title alone). Good thing too, because I'm just in the mood for a moeblob slice-of-life at the moment. The premise and the art are good, so I think I'll watch through the whole thing.
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Eh, it's less slice-of-life and more straight up gag comedy ala Sgt Frog and the like. Not a bad thing by any means from my point of view, but just saying.
 
CatPee said:
Squid Girl - Ep. 1

So based on cajunator's mentioning of it and nobody mocking him for it, I decided to give it a whirl (mostly based on the title alone). Good thing too, because I'm just in the mood for a moeblob slice-of-life at the moment. The premise and the art are good, so I think I'll watch through the whole thing.

Also, lolmosquito.
KuGsj.gif
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I must have missed him mentioning it, or else I would have said to stay away. Just sooooooo mediocre
 
Aigis said:
One of the more offensive changes to me (being a filthy videophile and all) is that they didn't even do proper grain removal to give it the clean digital look they were going for. It's just gaussian blurred away. What the fuck?
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Adding insult to injury is part of the fun.
 
EmmanuelMunoz said:
I must have missed him mentioning it, or else I would have said to stay away. Just sooooooo mediocre
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I wasn't particularly impressed, but there are certainly worse things you could be watching.

I guess you come out without a loss or a gain. It's not so bad.
 
Eh, I like being entertained and when it comes down to it, Squid Girl does the job. At least, what I've seen so far anyway.
 
Articalys said:
Look at all these characters that no one gives a shit about.

These ones, however, I'm sure some people do.
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Love the crappy Index girls no one even cares about getting slaughtered and fed to the moe boss that is Yuno.
 
[Kaiji 22]

Well, there are two problems wrong with this episode. One is a problem for the episode itself, another is a problem with the arc as a whole. I guess I'll start with the smaller one.

This episode is hella padding. Like, season one levels of filler. Characters spending two minutes to tell you stuff you already know, then flash backing to earlier in the episode, then pointless crowds shots....the list goes on. It really starts to drag when you're watching it week-to-week anyway, but this really isn't helping.

The actual direction of the episode was really weak as well. Lots of repeated shots just re-arranged differently.

A bigger problem with the arc itself is:
the game is just kind of static. There's only one game and one win condition - nothing can happen till we reach there. I preferred it when you had a number of smaller and larger matches to break things up a bit - and to stop it all resting on even event.
Other arcs had different stakes, different sub-games, etc. Most of the stuff in play now is stuff set up earlier - so there's less time for classic breakdowns and then heroic reassemblies. The repetition of action and singularity of the opponent really starts to wear on you after a while.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Some true Lucas-level bullshit right there. Shocking how little artists understand their own works sometimes.
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It does make you wonder, doesn't it? Like, even if they know their vision is clouded the could always ask someone else for a real opinion: "Don't change anything, you weirdo".
 
Jexhius said:
[Kaiji 22]A bigger problem with the arc itself is:
the game is just kind of static. There's only one game and one win condition - nothing can happen till we reach there. I preferred it when you had a number of smaller and larger matches to break things up a bit - and to stop it all resting on even event.
Other arcs had different stakes, different sub-games, etc. Most of the stuff in play now is stuff set up earlier - so there's less time for classic breakdowns and then heroic reassemblies.
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It's just a different kind of tension and while I do agree with you that it isn't as fun as watching Kaiji come up with stuff on the spot and resulting villain breakdown, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't having a blast speculating what each side could do or notice despite there being very few options to do anything. I can totally see why someone would pick this arc over the more standard mind games of season 1.
 
Jexhius said:
It does make you wonder, doesn't it? Like, even if they know their vision is clouded the could always ask someone else for a real opinion: "Don't change anything, you weirdo".
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Well with Lucas it's not much of a mystery, in the old days he had guys like Kurtz to keep him in line, now he has UNLIMITED POWER and no one to say no to any of his senile, idiotic ideas.
 
Branduil said:
Well with Lucas it's not much of a mystery, in the old days he had guys like Kurtz to keep him in line, now he has UNLIMITED POWER and no one to say no to any of his senile, idiotic ideas.
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Lucas and Tomino should team up. It'll be a black hole of senile delusion.
 
Hitokage said:
Lucas and Tomino should team up. It'll be a black hole of senile delusion.
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I don't even want to imagine what a Lucas/Tomino movie would be like. It'd be like the prequel trilogy edited down into one nonsensical 2-hour movie.
 
cosmicblizzard said:
It's just a different kind of tension and while I do agree with you that it isn't as fun as watching Kaiji come up with stuff on the spot and resulting villain breakdown, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't having a blast speculating what each side could do or notice despite there being very few options to do anything. I can totally see why someone would pick this arc over the more standard mind games of season 1.
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I just don't think the variety is as rich as previous arcs.
 
Hitokage said:
Hardly.
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Probably not, though there's certainly parts of Eva towards the end which are rather unbearable in their pretentiousness. At the same time there's a large amount of good stuff.
 
Kaiji Ep 22

Bloody hell! Thsi is one series I should have just marathon it from start to finish. Thsi episode was very very tense and the cliffhanger just made me feel awful and wish next week would come sooner than later.

What an amazing Episdoe, both Ichijou and Kaiji can be screwed.
 
ninj4junpei said:
Judging by the quality of the Rebuild series thus far, I think senility would do him some favors.
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Well Rebuild is certainly better than anything Lucas has done in the last decade.
 
CatPee said:
Squid Girl - Ep. 1

So based on cajunator's mentioning of it and nobody mocking him for it, I decided to give it a whirl (mostly based on the title alone). Good thing too, because I'm just in the mood for a moeblob slice-of-life at the moment. The premise and the art are good, so I think I'll watch through the whole thing.
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Just in time for season 2.
 
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