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Summer 2011 Anime Thread II of IKUHARA'S RETURN, Penguins, and Idols

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Unknown Soldier said:
Azusa is in fact dumber than a bag of rocks, this is verifiable fact, but some people like that sort of thing. She checks a box.

Azusa isn't dumb, she just takes it easy.

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Aigis said:
But they're just boxes, what's wrong with them?
In the metaphorical context we are using the term boxes, they basically refer to a variety of tropes typically found in otaku-oriented anime.
 
Branduil said:
In the metaphorical context we are using the term boxes, they basically refer to a variety of tropes typically found in otaku-oriented anime.
Yes, and whether these boxes are bad or not is a person-to-person basis type thing.
 
Aigis said:
But they're just boxes, what's wrong with them?

Then stop bothering people for liking boxes checked that you don't like.

But there's nothing inherently wrong with liking Idolmaster. Besides the fact it's not very good.
 
darkside31337 said:
Then stop bothering people for liking boxes checked that you don't like.

But there's nothing inherently wrong with liking Idolmaster. Besides the fact it's not very good.

that depends on your priorities really
 
jman2050 said:
Except when they're overused or used improperly, of course.

But the trope itself isn't bad, the use of the trope is.

Branduil said:
There are certain tropes that are almost always used badly, though, and using a sufficient number of these tropes can nearly guarantee that even a well-produced show is lacking in much content of real merit.

What is content of a real merit?
 
For anyone who does not want to actually visit TV Tropes, here is a list of the personality tropes given for Azusa:

- Cool Big Sis
- Christmas Cake
- The Ditz
- Idiot Hair
- The Ingenue
- No Sense of Direction

In comparison, here's a list of tropes for a different idol. You get three guesses who.

- Cry Cute
- Every Girl Is Cuter with Hair Decs
- Forehead of Doom
- Girls Love Stuffed Animals
- Kawaiiko
- Lonely Rich Kid
- The Ojou
- Show the Forehead
- Tsundere
 
Articalys said:
In comparison, here's a list of tropes for a different idol. You get three guesses who.

- Cry Cute
- Every Girl Is Cuter with Hair Decs
- Forehead of Doom
- Girls Love Stuffed Animals
- Kawaiiko
- Lonely Rich Kid
- The Ojou
- Show the Forehead
- Tsundere
This one's easy.

It's Producer-san.
 
Tropes (which we should really just call clichés) are terrible and lazy. Writing into these clichés is always disasterous, and results in characters displaying traits they shouldn't whenever they try to flesh them out. Character archetypes create boxes that force a very strict set of behavior on said character. When you post a link that says "Well relax buddy, it's just a story!" my blood pressure starts to rise, because then we end up with a bunch of one dimensional characters doing a bunch of predictable shit.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Tropes (which we should really just call clichés) are terrible and lazy. Writing into these clichés is always disasterous, and results in characters that own traits they shouldn't. When you post a link that says "Well relax buddy, it's just a story!" my blood pressure starts to rise, because then we end up with a bunch of one dimensional characters doing a bunch of predictable shit.

You can trace every single character in every single show aired this year and the last, and probably the previous one as well, to a trope.
 
7Th said:
It all depends on how they're used.
There are certain tropes which I've never seen used well, so claiming a platonic ideal of tropes where every one can be used well doesn't much convince me.
 
My red toy is better than your yellow toy because red is a better color that is more similar to rouge and carnelian; yellow, on the other hand, is dumb and boring. This is all true because I say it is true, by the way.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Tropes (which we should really just call clichés) are terrible and lazy. Writing into these clichés is always disasterous, and results in characters displaying traits they shouldn't whenever they try to flesh them out. Character archetypes create boxes that force a very strict set of behavior on said character. When you post a link that says "Well relax buddy, it's just a story!" my blood pressure starts to rise, because then we end up with a bunch of one dimensional characters doing a bunch of predictable shit.

I hope you never discover what the concept of the monomyth is.
 
7Th said:
My red toy is better than your yellow toy because red is a better color that is more similar to rouge and carnelian; yellow, on the other hand, is dumb and boring. This is all true because I say it is true, by the way.
If you just like pretty pictures and don't care at all what the pictures are trying to say, just say so.
 
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It really feels as if they are trying to avoid having to deal with the second arc. Wired Life felt pretty cool this episode in the ending... (Shima needs to get over those bugs).
 
Branduil said:
If you just like pretty pictures and don't care at all what the pictures are trying to say, just say so.

We never talk about what the pictures are trying to say in this thread, though. Well, ABF does, but nobody other than mAc actually reads his posts.
 
7Th said:
We never talk about what the pictures are trying to say in this thread, though. Well, ABF does, but nobody other than mac actually reads his posts.
I don't think that's really true, even if the analysis will tend towards the superficial for obvious reasons.
 
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