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[Neiteio]

I'm guessing the fish gets real good stats in exchange for its ability to access that form

It's effectively a Pokemon that "re-evolves" at the start of each battle after reaching a certain level. I imagine it gets good stats, but a real evolution would get improved stats + an ability for extra benefit, so I'm worried this might be a net loss.

I love the concept, though. From a creative standpoint, it's brilliant. I just question if it's for the best in terms of competitive potential.

 

[Aaronrules380]

My guess, any Pichus or Pikachus caught in Alola evolve into Alolan Raichu. Pichus & Pikachus from other regions will likely evolve into Regular Raichu.

But then what about breeding? Will there be a way to get a normal Raichu native to gen 7

 

[Kyzer]

I thought Wimpod would be the magikarp of gen 7 but this looks like its definitely it

 

[Neoxon]

Leaks are panning out.

Water/Dark Dolphin GameFreak pls.

Don't we already have a Water/Dark Pokémon in the form of Greninja?

Either way, if that's from the Chinese leak (I only recall a mention of a dolphin, not its typing), I have little reason to doubt it at this point.

 

[Killer Queen]

How, it has no ability at that point.

Because you don't only have access to it once per battle on one Pokemon and you get an item slot
And it's automatic

My god, Nintendo & Game Freak have to get a handle on these leaks.


It's only a rumor for now, so we aren't sure about its legitimacy. Unlike the NX leak, only one (pretty reliable, from what others have said) source is backing the rumor up right now.

I'm just excited about Pokemon games on nx in general whether it's sun and Moon or other, probably should've phrased it better though.

 

[FelipeMGM]

Seeing all these new forms makes me want to play a new Red/Blue remake but with all 151 pokémon having new forms

what do you guys think of my new avatar?

lol

 

[Brazil]

Lmao, you're a grown ass man whining about Pokemon spoilers. Calm down.

Raichu looks adorable!

As a grown ass(-)man I'm entitled to whining about whatever I want!

I'm calm, though. The damage's done. Just trying to avoid having other people spoiled like I did :/

If you were really on a blackout then you shouldnt even know about alolan forms.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213163749&postcount=78

 

[Kinsei]

But then what about breeding? Will there be a way to get a normal Raichu native to gen 7

Maybe if you bred a a Raichu from another region, but I doubt it.

Don't we already have a Water/Dark Pokémon in the form of Greninja?

Either way, if that's from the Chinese leak (I only recall a mention of a dolphin, not its typing), I have little reason to doubt it at this point.

The leak only mentioned a Dolphin. They probably want Water/Dark because it would look cool and/or dolphins can be real assholes.

 

[Busaiku]

Because you don't only have access to it once per battle on one Pokemon and you get an item slot
And it's automatic

I'm not talking about Mega Evolution.
This is basically regular evolution, but with no ability.

 

[Kyzer]

I wonder if ash greninja would have a smiler transformation mechanic?

haha your love of ash greninja raises an interesting point.

if nothing else sun/moon has no problem coming up with some crazy new way of achieving form change

 

[MagnesD3]

I wish Alola Pokemon were just new Pokemon closely related to the gen 1 pokemon instead of it being a form.

 

[Fix-It Felix. Jr.]

Can someone reupload the webm to YT or something? iPhone won't let me play it

Here you go.

 

[Moon Presence]

I don't know what's wrong with me but I hate all these designs. Sure, Pokemon has always been goofy and jolly but these seem kinda off. They look to childish.

I like Ninetails and the flaming cat and that's it.

PS: I only played the first 3 generations so there's that.

 

[Neiteio]

Wait a sec

Even though it's not listed, maybe Wishiwashi [School Form] has its own ability. I mean, it's already "schooled" together, so perhaps it can now boast a different ability? That would put it on par with a proper evolution.

 

[Moonlight]

Hold up, maybe it's a situational thing? Like, if you're outside of water, Wishiwashi can't summon its' friends to form a school, but once you're inside, it can, and School Form is an absolute beast. So either you're on the ground, and Wishiwashi is alone and therefore probably mediocre, or you're in the water and Wishiwashi gets to be incredibly strong. It'd make it kinda situational, but it sounds cool.

 

[DedValve]

As a grown ass(-)man I'm entitled to whining about whatever I want!

I'm calm, though. The damage's done. Just trying to avoid having other people spoiled like I did :/



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213163749&postcount=78

This thread is called the redemption of raichu which could mean anything. I thought itd be a mega or a raichu look alike ala deddenne. How would you even know its an alolan form based off the title?

 

[Kyzer]

yeah for some reason Pokemon doesnt get the spoiler enforcement of other series because I guess its a little more complicated whats a spoiler and what isnt

 

[PadWarrior]

haha your love of ash greninja raises an interesting point.

if nothing else sun/moon has no problem coming up with some crazy new way of achieving form change

Greninja s why I'm back to playing lol

 

[Ydelnae]

Here you go.

Thank you so much!

 

[Neiteio]

Hold up, maybe it's a situational thing? Like, if you're outside of water, Wishiwashi can't summon its' friends to form a school, but once you're inside, it can, and School Form is an absolute beast. So either you're on the ground, and Wishiwashi is alone and therefore probably mediocre, or you're in the water and Wishiwashi gets to be incredibly strong. It'd make it kinda situational, but it sounds cool.

No, they'd specify if it required a certain arena.

Besides, there are no water arenas online.

 

[brinstar]

I wonder if you can cancel Wishiwashi's school form by using moves that suppress abilities

 

[TM25]

achieving a form at a certain level

lmao

Ohmori is turning the series on its head as much as possible

I have a feeling this is gonna be like Magikarp. Very weak and then extremely strong.

What are the potential benefits/differences of not being a traditional evolution?

Do people who hate megas because forms arent new pokemon mad at this?

I tweeted at Masuda "Why cant my Pokemon evolve during battle?" once, maybe this is his answer

Depends how this form interacts with mold breaker and worry seed etc.

 

[Neoxon]

But then what about breeding? Will there be a way to get a normal Raichu native to gen 7

Same thing. Pikachus or Pichus from Alola breed Pichus that evolve into Alolan Raichu (non-Alolan Pichu eggs results in a Pichu that evolved into regular Raichus). This is just my educated guess.

 

[Fat4all]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213163749&postcount=78

They still wouldn't know the context of what aloha forms are, or even connect that headline with the raichu headline.

they'd just assume that raichu is in the game, which most people would guess as pikachu has been marketed for this game a good bit.

 

[Real Hero]

I don't know what's wrong with me but I hate all these designs. Sure, Pokemon has always been goofy and jolly but these seem kinda off. They look to childish.

.

too childish? really? Pokemon?

 

[L Thammy]

I wish Alola Pokemon were just new Pokemon closely related to the gen 1 pokemon instead of it being a form.

I get the feeling that Alolan forms are a way of padding out the roster, especially if Game Freak's made too much work for themselves a la X&Y. Though I actually like the concept.

 

[Kinsei]

Hold up, maybe it's a situational thing? Like, if you're outside of water, Wishiwashi can't summon its' friends to form a school, but once you're inside, it can, and School Form is an absolute beast. So either you're on the ground, and Wishiwashi is alone and therefore probably mediocre, or you're in the water and Wishiwashi gets to be incredibly strong. It'd make it kinda situational, but it sounds cool.

I don't think they'd make a form like Wishiwashi's school form completely unusable when battling other people.

 

[FelipeMGM]

As a grown ass(-)man I'm entitled to whining about whatever I want!

I'm calm, though. The damage's done. Just trying to avoid having other people spoiled like I did :/



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213163749&postcount=78

You dont have to worry, cuz tbh the title is not spoilery, especially for people in media blackout who dont know about the alola forms

 

[DedValve]

yeah for some reason Pokemon doesnt get the spoiler enforcement of other series because I guess its a little more complicated whats a spoiler and what isnt

For me pokemon are spoilers. I know none of the new pokemon this gen bar the starters which i accidentally looked at and this new raichu. Only reason i came to this thread was the title mentioning raichu and me thinking he had a mega which was too good to pass up.

But thats a damn fairy gamefreak. This makes me hate dedenne more for stealing raichus type.

 

[Sou Da]

Played like a fiddle.

 

[Nudull]

I didn't think I'd ever like Raichu. Until today.

 

[Killer Queen]

I'm not talking about Mega Evolution.
This is basically regular evolution, but with no ability.

Whoops, I misread.
Carry on.

 

[Delio]

I wonder if you can cancel Wishiwashi's school form by using moves that suppress abilities

I bet it's a special where it can change reguardless of that. I just want to know what the level thing means. Im guessing once it's a certain level it will always turn into School form when sent out?

 

[J@hranimo]

Played like a fiddle.

Bruh

 

[War Raichu]

Same thing. Pikachus or Pichus from Alola breed Pichus that evolve into Alolan Raichu (non-Alolan Pichu eggs results in a Pichu that evolved into regular Raichus). This is just my educated guess.

yeah, I feel like this is going to be their way of transporting Alola forms into future games. If it's marked as having been captured in Alola, it will produce Alola offspring

 

[whyamihere]

Played like a fiddle.

whaaaaaaa

 

[Fat4all]

Played like a fiddle.

just hollow um out and plot them on ur skull

 

[Kyzer]

Played like a fiddle.

dawgggggg

like a damn fiddle!

 

[EndlessSky]

I wish Alola Pokemon were just new Pokemon closely related to the gen 1 pokemon instead of it being a form.

That is pretty much what it is except for name and possibly pokedex number. It's not like you an do a form change and go from one to the other.

 

[blamite]

Raichu was already perfect and needed no redemption. This new form only makes him more amazing.

 

[The Silver]

The only thread title change should be one including Thanos, don't give in to this spoilerphobia bullshit

And I love that Raichu, no longer the ugly older brother

 

[Anth0ny]

holy shit they remember raichu exists?

 

[ffdgh]

Hello evil team member.

 

[Kinsei]

Played like a fiddle.

I wonder if this means that Pyukumuku (That's going to be hard to memorize the spelling of) has high physical defense.

 

[R0ckman]

Was Iwata like the soul man to keep leaks from happening? Ever since the man has gone to rest the pipes have been busting all around.

 

[QisTopTier]

For me pokemon are spoilers. I know none of the new pokemon this gen bar the starters which i accidentally looked at and this new raichu. Only reason i came to this thread was the title mentioning raichu and me thinking he had a mega which was too good to pass up.

But thats a damn fairy gamefreak. This makes me hate dedenne more for stealing raichus type.

 

[Crocodile]

Those Pokemon fuse together and become one being though. This is a school of fish working together and then going their separate ways once the battle is over. They couldn't really get that across as a regular evolution.

Fair. However, does Diglett > Dugtrio also count as a fusion? That seemed less clear to me than the other examples I gave.

 

[dc89]

Raichu, what have they done to you bro?

 

[DeathSparks]

One of the new trainers from Team Skull, looks interesting

 

[TheGreatLugia]

Raichu's form seems like one of those cases where I think the design looks nicer in the 3D model than the official artwork.