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Sunset Overdrive: 900p/30fps
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OldKingDoran
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its insomniac. to them framerate isnt a priority anymore since it doesnt drive sales, according to shoddy research
To be fair.
You are compairing games from the end of the lifecycle to First(or Second)-Generation games on the new console. They will look MUCH better in 3-4 years.
Winterfang
Banned
I would had preferred 720p 60fps.
Is 720p bad now? I ask because a lot of titles last gen didn't bother to reach it but not everyone just goes over it in weird ass aspect ratios.
Is 720p bad now? I ask because a lot of titles last gen didn't bother to reach it but not everyone just goes over it in weird ass aspect ratios.
Dreams-Visions
Member
well...whatever they have to do to make it like they want it to look, i suppose.
they don't do 60fps games anymore. by choice.
they don't do 60fps games anymore. by choice.
(asking you guys)
I don't get on gaf and post much on the weekend. Spend my time with the wife and kids.
Are the drive-by posts, hyperbole, and crap-fest worse on the weekend?
I'd be ok with this too. I suppose they had a choice between the two. I'll enjoy whatever they find meets their expectations.
FrankieMcGuire
Banned
To keep the costs down. Looooooooool. Should I laugh?
So thats the reason a Xbox One did cost 499 before 9th june.., lol.
Early 360 games didn't look hugely better than Xbox games, that why we had the whole Xbox 1.5 crap, and how can you compare a late 360 game to an early Xbox game?.
Comparing GTA5 with PS4 WatchDogs is just the same. WatchDogs will look crap 5 years from now when we are close to the end of this gen. Compare a X1 launch game like Ryse to any similar 360 game and the difference is HUGE.
FrankieMcGuire
Banned
Not always the case..
Dreamcast had Soul Calibur as a start title...
Gamecube Rogue Leader...
But I'm sure in 3 years we'll see some prettier stuff...
Hope it's solid 30fps. That's what really matters when shit get's intense.
Very original joke. Give yourself a round of applause!
Very original joke. Give yourself a round of applause!
Compare GTA5 x1 vs GTA x360. It is better to compare apples with apples
Your posts are not very subtle lol.
We were moving from non-HD to HD with the Xbox/PS2 to the 360/PS3 so that was a pretty big visual transition.
Also, you are comparing launch games which are never a good indication of how a console will be in terms of visuals. And in terms of Watch_Dogs, the game would have probably looked much better on both new consoles if it wasn't cross gen.
...and if it had even better specs the system would have probably been $600+ alongside kinect. Don't really get what you are arguing about.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
cost ≠ price
FrankieMcGuire
Banned
Compare PGR 3 on Xbox 360 (start title) with Pgr 2 (end title)...
Pgr 3 is MILES ahead of Pgr 2 in EVERY graphically way.
Windom Earle
Banned
Ask yourself maybe?
The "who cares/it doesn't matter" attitude is certainly frowned upon in tech threads.
1. Yes
2. Before this you couldn't downplay the game, but now people "think" they have a reason to. They smell blood in the water now.
Calavera520
Member
yeah, i'm fine with this
the game looks pretty sure, but i never got into these dead rising/dead island kill as many dudes as you can type open world games.
Smutpeddler
Member
I'm really ok with this. 8 player co-op in an open world, with tons of enemies. If they keep the frame rate locked and steady, then it's already an improvement over Dead Rising at launch. There is a lot of people that question the developers and their choices. I have faith they will find the right balance.
If you don't know what drove the cost of the system up...and can't put 2 and 2 together to see what was removed, in order to not cost them more with a $399 system, then..well...I'm not going to take the time to explain it.
They didn't make some smart decisions, but the reason for the choices made and the cost are there.
Sony made a similar choice, but a better one. They focused on the GPU rather than an expensive camera/microphone/processor accessory. These two companies (heck even Nintendo went cheap..so three) went for less powerful parts to try and hit that $400-$500 range.
Don't bring Miles into this thread
lol
Its going to be a long gen for you i feel.
nailbombxx
Member
Really? This is the type of game that would benefit the most from the great clarity of native 1080p and the fluidity of 60fps. I guess that is only the ideal that Xbone can't reach.
Pretty much this. There was never any indication this game would be above 30fps to my knowledge and no one at the convention who played seem to be bitching about any of it so why is it an issue now? The look of the actual game hasn't changed a bit. So where's the issue?
yeah, i'm fine with this
Apparently this all of a sudden looks "bad" now.
dorkimoe
Member
yup, it drives me nuts that people care more about fps and resolution. its not like the game looks bad....I think it was killzone on ps4? that they didnt release the actual resolution until months after the game was out and it wasnt until they told people did people complain. Love it
so youre saying gameplay trumps numbers? no way
The irony..
Ah, well, how about this.
I'd always rather have 1080p/60 in every single game.
I'm fine with 900p/30 in any game ever if it's a good game.
No matter the system or the game...I'm not going to bash it based on the res or Framerate. I don't mind a discussion on resolution or framerate, if it's a technical one.
Those that use it to LOL, drive-by, and make "attacking" comments should get lost.
Higher res and fps is always better. I'll never argue against that if it's possible in both instances on any hardware.
FrankieMcGuire
Banned
What were the prices for X360 and PS3?
299(350) dollar and 499 dollar?
I think if starting titles can't hit 1080p with min 30 fps something is wrong...
At the end of console life cycles devs are lowering the resolution... But if we get 792p and 900p now are we getting 720p and 600p at the end of the cycle?? Lol..
Pretty much false. Resolution went up last gen, not down.
FrankieMcGuire
Banned
Yet with all the heaps of explosions, chaos and other shit going on with 8 players on screen at once, SO seemed to run just fine...
yeah, i'm fine with this
Game looks amazing.
FrankieMcGuire
Banned
After Into the Nexus, I'm not convinced they do 30fps games, either.
Windom Earle
Banned
Bottom line is, you don't get to decide what matters to people and what doesn't.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Did someone mention PGR????
I'm going to have disagree that it was miles better. It looked better due to the bump to HD, but it wasn't miles better. PGR2 was a great looking game and managed to hold its own against PGR3 pretty well.
Hehe. I can sense whenever someone is talking about PGR.
I'm pretty sure no-one has said it looks bad and if they did, well, there's certainly no accounting for taste.
I'm going to have disagree that it was miles better. It looked better due to the bump to HD, but it wasn't miles better. PGR2 was a great looking game and managed to hold its own against PGR3 pretty well.
Hehe. I can sense whenever someone is talking about PGR.
I'm pretty sure no-one has said it looks bad and if they did, well, there's certainly no accounting for taste.
'Many' others, one example.
I think there's the issue of it looking like a Splatoon map at the end of a match, personally. That, and they brought back the character design from FUSE before EA ruined it.
BananaSprinkles
Banned
Diminishing returns
Wasn't this image debunked?
yeah, i'm fine with this
This looked great. But other gameplay foootage at E3 kind of looked...rough to me. FPS didn't look that nice in certain areas (was kind of getting a Dead Rising 3 vibe). Although maybe not as bad.
Which isn't awful, because Dead Rising 3 was awesome. But still, since this is an exclusive, I guess I figured it would be..more? At least 1080p? *shrugs*
OldKingDoran
Banned
Diminishing returns
you know this image is BS right?
Thing is 30hz looks the same on a 30" display or a 110" projector. And for most games its not imparitive to have inputs under 30hz. Not so with resolution, where kids gaming on tiny TVs couldn't give two craps while the rest of us with home theater setups have to deal with vasaline smears all over the image.
A good example is Destiny. The art style and geometry might not be as complex as something like say BF, but it looks a hell of a lot better on my setup because of the resolution. Bring able to pick out enemies a quarter mile away and see small details is important to both visuals and gameplay.
Good for you. If the point was that 'you' can't tell the difference then why are you even making the statement then? Clearly you wanted to suggest the difference could not be seen my most gamers. But if you want to be disingenuous carry on.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
I was hoping for 1080p but i'll take 900p. No point complaining about the Xbox One's lack of power, its not something they can fix anyway. I'm fairly certain it would be a lot better had it been designed under the current Phil Spencer regime. I'll use my PS4 for multiplats.
The game still looks like a lot of fun to play and that's what matters most. Now that KI season 2 and Halo 5 aren't out this year, I need something to play on my Xbox One and his fits the bill very nicely.
The game still looks like a lot of fun to play and that's what matters most. Now that KI season 2 and Halo 5 aren't out this year, I need something to play on my Xbox One and his fits the bill very nicely.
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