I like gameplay AND visuals. Petty much what gaming has always been about. Without the desire for better graphics we would just be playing Atari still.
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Sunset Overdrive: 900p/30fps
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I like gameplay AND visuals. Petty much what gaming has always been about. Without the desire for better graphics we would just be playing Atari still.
OsirisBlack
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Bad information, GTAV is getting a pretty impressive visual upgrade for the next gen consoles and pc. If it is 60fps then there really wont be an excuse for this. This is one of the better comparison videos take a look for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtZ5oBWpO90
Edit: On topic I don't care what res SO is if its fun I am getting it.
Moved on from the bit wars of the 90's to the resolution frame rate wars of the 21st century. Next generation only a handful of devs will be able to afford to create production quality that maxes the systems out and we can move on the the exclusive wars were it's finally the games that matter most(hopefully).
What a suprise to see you in here. I was talking in general anyway.
I don't understand this post, the answer to your questions are:
Yes.
Yes.
Actually all games would look and play better at 1080p/60fps.
Yes, because the Xbox one don't have infinite resources.
Insomniac, love to create games with LOTS and LOTS of action on screen, tons of explosions,particle effects etc... They said a few years ago that there moving to only making 30fps games so they can add more stuff to what players see on screen and make it look visually better too, this should not be a surprise.
It might be 900p cause maybe at that resolution it works well with the Xbox's 32mb Esram.
Weren't here last gen? You survived that somehow.
Seismic response
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Hey thanks for the info. Didnt know they were upgrading it. May need to pick it up if thats the case.
Xenon
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Oh lordy, SS's world is very static. Outside of some parts of enemy outposts the world is indestructible. I'm much rather have the interaction games like Watch Dogs and Sunset Overdrive offer. Because the prettiness of Seattle in Infamous:SS was achieved with its own sacrifices.
Wow. That is actually huge. Didn't know that.
Ah that makes a lot of sense then. What they've actually shown would easily be 1080/30.
It is a gigantic visual upgrade and it's beautiful.
This needs a thread.
Clockwork5
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Last year I think they were, in some ways, protecting the hype of the new consoles. Everyone was expecting 1080 / 60 and very few games were able to live up to that expectation. At this point, expectations have been tempered and it is not as much of a condemnation on the current gen to announce 900 / 30.
Revolutionary
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Not surprised at all. The transition from CG trailer to gameplay at the conference was jarring.
Hitokiri03
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I don't get it why people start to talk about PS4 games here.
LordBaztion
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I wish I just could decrease the resolution and remove effects to get 60fps.
I wonder if this game benefits from the june update.
I wonder if this game benefits from the june update.
DR3 doesnt have 100s enemies. More like 1000s.
The SO E3 gameplay ended with them killing 34 enemies with one shot.
Nether do I, because clearly the thread is about a XO game.
Steverulez
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I can't say I'm particularly bothered as long as it's good which it looks like it will be a absolutely blast.
I'm glad they have clarified it as I would have liked to know but I'm not upset by the news.
Bring on October.
I'm glad they have clarified it as I would have liked to know but I'm not upset by the news.
Bring on October.
Honestly the "1080/60 or it's unplayable" attitude is worse.
CassidyIzABeast
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If 1080p is a must because its the standard then 60fps should also be a must because our televisions have been 60Hz for ages now.
Clockwork5
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A lot of 60fps claims for GTA 5 in this thread... Is there a source for this announcement?
I would be infinitely surprised if it is over 30.
I would be infinitely surprised if it is over 30.
7DollarHagane
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You know it is really funny that the weakest current gen console has the most 60fps games.
Nintendo knows 60fps matters.
Nintendo knows 60fps matters.
Because all games look the same and are equally demanding.
Firstly. many people don't see 60fps as being better looking. Take last gen, and think up a list of games that are commonly cited as being amongst the most visually impressive. Now how many of those were 60fps? People aren't begging for worse looking games. If we could have 60fps without anything else being affected, then I'm pretty certain everyone would be in favour. What tends to happen when the devs go for 60fps instead, is people claim the games are simply 'ugly', as Forza 5 and Call of Duty frequently show us. If most people actually did think 60fps looked better, there would be far more games released at that framerate.
Secondly. Motion blur can help if implemented well. The notion comes from stuff like films which appear smooth despite having relatively low frame rates. A lot of this is due to information that occurs in between frames being somewhat apparent in each frame's image, helping to fill in the gaps of what motion has taken place in between. There's really nothing idiotic about it.
Rockstar is definitely not known for giving a shit about smooth framerates.
TheLostBigBoss
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Metal Gear Sold V would like to have a word with you.
Said it before, outside of a few exceptions, any non-action game should remain 1080p on the system. In terms of action games though (especially "AAA"), if it's 30 FPS then expect 900p-1080p. If it's 60 FPS then expect 720p-900p. Made that based on trends and so far none of the res/frame rate news about the late 2014 games on the Xbox One has surprised me.
I did not say it is unplayable but it is worse. What do you think publishers will deliver down the road when all they hear is "it's fine"? We ended the last generation with games barely reaching 30fps because "It's fine"...
Isn't the difference between 900p and 1080p the same as the difference between 720p and 900p? By that logic should they not have left it at 720p?
BruiserBear
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Reduced resolution? 900p is going to be the standard for graphically intensive games on XB1. As I said, this isn't new news.
900p is a lot closer to native resolution than 720p. It's very easy to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. The difference between 900p and 1080p isn't as noticeable.
Bores.
The only word I can use to describe this crowd of people who immediately write of a game due to it not being 1080p/60fps.
God knows how they managed to enjoy games prior to 1080p becoming a resolution.
Nemesis_
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No the OMG LET'S FOCUS ON RESOLUTION AND FRAMERATE over actually enjoyable and rewarding and unique gameplay experiences is. I mean some of the best games I've ever played were 480p. I dread to think what people did before 1080p was a thing.
I am not too fussed about this development for Sunset Overdrive. I really had hoped for 60fps a the least, but I'm not going to stop myself from playing it because of this.
No... Lower resolutions = larger pixels so 720p vs. 900p would be a more noticeable difference for some than 900p vs. 1080p.
Is this even true though?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii U had the highest percentage of 60fps games, simply by not having the majority of 30fps multiplats. I'm not sure if it'll finish the gen with enough 60fps titles to even balance out all the 60fps indies on the other platforms.
I see the that the 900p apologists out in full force. It's one thing to say it's acceptable and it is, this game will be a blast to play it - looks fun, but to suggest that it's hard to tell the difference between 900p and 1080p isn't true at all - especially on fixed pixel display.
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You should write Bungie and argue for 900P with more effects...
Pocky4Th3Win
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Wow surprising that insomniac couldn't get 1080p, these are dudes that pit out some of the most impressive graphics last gen at 720p. I don't even think the games looks that impressive with a low lod and and crappy 2d sprite effects.
No, it should double the difference and make it more visible. Do you really think you are using logic here?
Ricerocket
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So is this using the june SDK or not? Must not be.
The game looks fun still, this is the kind of game I would buy a console for. Still a little disappointing @ 900/30.
The game looks fun still, this is the kind of game I would buy a console for. Still a little disappointing @ 900/30.
yeah, i'm fine with this
who knows what that demo was running on.
If we make it a big enough issue and raise hell on the interests, you probably will get every game to be 1080/60fps
And then people will complain that it looks last gen...
The thing is devs will do their best to make the game look and feel as good as they can get it. They try to balance the IQ and resolution/fps so that the game looks and feels good. I agree that we should always tell devs that we want the best, but we shouldn't deride them for not having enough console power to deliver the experience they wanted to give at 1080/60fps.
"Isn't true at all"? Excuse me but are you me? I was talking about me and I personally can't tell much of a difference between 900p and 1080p. If you can then that's you.
Sorry? Don't know what else to say. Some of you guys are hilarious.
I actually assumed that the game would be 900p on the Xbox One. Seems like it would have been if it didn't incorporate the June update. Should be a good looking game either way though the PS4 version will probably have different visual effects for obvious reasons.
SemiHollowCarrot
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Game looks slow in videos. 30FPS isn't surprising.
People should really temper their expectations. This isn't going to lift games to 1080p all of a sudden.
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