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Super Mario 64 DS releasing on Wii U VC in Europe
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Not 100% it included all of them but it had many more.
LSauchelli
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Chances this gets an update to actually use the analog stick? 0? Or slightly above 0?
Slightly above zero, like 0.21%
It's funny so many people want it but I don't see it happening.
Orniletter
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LSauchelli
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They wouldn't even need to patch the rom itself, just map the 100% push of the stick to the given direction + the run button. Of course, it would be better an actual patch to allow 360° directions.
I just skimmed your last fifty posts and there is a heck of a lot of haterade, not just for Nintendo but you seem really displeased with a lot of games and gaming in general. I mean this in a good way: I hope there is some stuff you genuinely are enjoying in the gaming world. :/
LSauchelli
Member
Now that I think about it. It should be possible to translate those controls to the stick, right?
Why. What's the reasons this game should have been on VC from day one.
It won't matter with NX
However, with GBA it's not possible on 3DS because 3DS isn't powerful enough for proper emulation and Nintendo clearly don't want to sell the buggy mess that is Ambassador games that can't even use the sleep feature. N3DS may be more powerful, but it'd be a waste of resources seeing as NX is absorbing Wii U's architecture.
For the DS, it's a whole other ball of wax. DS games would have to be massively reprogrammed for the saves to run as download versions, and the 3DS only reads DS games on a small part of internal memory, they cannot be read from the SD card
Seeing as DS VC only came a few months ago, no. Nintendo stagger releases so there's always something coming, they don't blow their load instantly and then have huge VC droughts and they're not released in the order games were released on the original console, that'd just be silly.
I loved my DS to bits from the moment I got one but even I thought this game was a poor bastardisation of Mario 64.
That game was literally all about analogue movement using the newfangled analogue stick. It plays terribly with a d-pad and is better but still frustrating and imprecise with a stylus. No amount of bonus content can make up for this flaw in the core game design.
Avoid.
That game was literally all about analogue movement using the newfangled analogue stick. It plays terribly with a d-pad and is better but still frustrating and imprecise with a stylus. No amount of bonus content can make up for this flaw in the core game design.
Avoid.
The controls are horrible, and unfortunately that's the most important aspect of a platformer. I hope Nintendo gives Mario 64 a true console remake that it deserves instead of a limited handheld.
I can't imagine why it wouldn't be possible, but I also can't imagine why they would go out of their way to reprogram something that was essentially a seldom-used bandage for a hardware problem in a ROM dump.
Cool but I will pass, the control are awful and no using the analog doesn't fix anything since you still need to hold the Y button to run.
I struggled to defeat King Bob omb as Mario since I couldn't pick him up the moment I let go of the Y button.
It's also the only game where Yoshi is playable in 3D.
I struggled to defeat King Bob omb as Mario since I couldn't pick him up the moment I let go of the Y button.
This version has Wario as a playable character so this is automatically the better version
It's also the only game where Yoshi is playable in 3D.
There are lots of things I enjoy. It's just that I'm direct when it comes to BS. I find that the older I get, the less tolerance I have for it. If a company does something consumer-friendly, I'll be the first to applaud them. The posts you skimmed through are most probably in relation to Ubisoft and the unoptimized, unfinished dirt it's peddling as videogames 99% of the time.
As far as this thread is concerned, I don't understand the drip-feeding Nintendo has been doing with the VC. Can you imagine Valve drip-feeding Steam? Everything should have been put up on the VC at the earliest. The Wii U has been out 3 years.
But if they don't present their products for sale then how can consumers buy them? Everything should be up there, particularly given the fact that they're not getting third parties and the VC could present a selling point for games not available elsewhere. They have a large catalogue they're just sitting on. Why should consumers have to wait 3 years to play a game that came out nearly 10 years ago? Terrible business practices..
Zombegoast
Member
Why do people not expect analogue stick support? VC games already has them and the circle pad can be used on the 3DS.
Also NoA Pls.
Also NoA Pls.
For one, these aren't just simple ROM dumps. They're fine tuned to work as perfectly as they can with each emulator being tweaked for each game as well as consideration of extra features to put in such as pointer control in Duck Hunt and e-Reader functionality in Mario Advance. This requires work and testing. Secondly, it's so they sell. If they unleashed everything at once, only the core stuff would sell. Drip feeding causes everything to get in the limelight and can introduce people to games they may not have known existed
Because that's not actual analog stick support. It's simply an alternate input for digital d-pad controls.
MegamanPoweredUP
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Yes!
Will this relase have proper analog controls? I really don't like running button in Mario 64.
Will this relase have proper analog controls? I really don't like running button in Mario 64.
Is there no promotion on the interface? I don't use VC regularly enough to be savvy about it so can you buy, say, The Complete Legend of Zelda Collection? Or the Complete Super Mario Collection? I'm probably just so used to Steam at this point giving deals, bundles, promoting old gems etc. I just don't understand why everything needs to be a big song and dance when it comes to Nintendo.
They don't bundle them together, no. Nintendo believe in games keeping their value and don't want to just drop prices to rockbottom like Steam does.
But it's not just that. I have a friend who would never have got into Fire Emblem before, but then decided to try a VC title out when it came and was promoted, and ended up loving the series. That wouldn't have happened if they had just dropped their entire load. Nintendo has explained that this is why they do it like this. Plus, as I said before, it takes time for them to test the titles.
It's smart to do it like this. It gets more sales to the titles that people are perhaps not familiar with.
thomasmahler
Member
I don't see it happening. They'd need to create new walk animations for all the characters that sync with the analog stick movement, etc. etc., I highly doubt Nintendo will do this. But it'd be awesome to have the best version of Mario 64 supporting Analog Stick movement - that'd be a real treat!
balladofwindfishes
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All the characters should have those animations, as the touch screen already allowed simulated analog controls
Of course, just a matter of when
One of Nintendo's dumbest inventions. It's a flat plastic surface, the DS' touch screen cannot register that thing.
peanutbutterlatte
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Nah they wanted to sell as many regular 64 versions as possible.
Will definitely be picking this up. Though that said, DS games are locked to the Gamepad aren't they?
Was going to post this, still hilarious to this day.
If they program in or rom hack in true analog stick support, that'd be a major bonus to this game.
I hope they do it. They are adding in the e-reader levels for the GBA version of Super Mario 3, so I'm slightly hopeful they just might actually make the Wii U's analog stick function as a true analog stick.
I hope they do it. They are adding in the e-reader levels for the GBA version of Super Mario 3, so I'm slightly hopeful they just might actually make the Wii U's analog stick function as a true analog stick.
Actually it's a convex surface. It registers a single point on the the DS's touchscreen just as well as the stylus. Have you ever used it?
Now as to whether it's actually enjoyable to use, that's another question.
LSauchelli
Member
Yes, but they wouldn't need to patch the ROM, just have a custom emulator that maps the stick to either the d-pad + run button, or the touchpad motions that allowed for better control.
I mean, the d-pad + run button mapping should be extremely easy, and the touchpad mapping option shouldn't be too far removed.
Of course, I fully expect just your average ROM dump.
Yeah, I think we'd have far fewer "oh my God I have so many games in my Steam library I've never played" threads
tim_pkmn89
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Pretty sure not every PC game ever was on Steam on Day 1.