GameGuru59
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Aren't 3DS stages different from Wii U anyway?
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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It's just some extreme cultural differences. Japanese really do value their reputation to the point that being exposed to "shameful" acts lead them to do extreme things as an apology. Pretty disturbing for outsiders, but that's just how cultural differences work.
JesusSo I tend to explain things in Simpsons references
Basically, remember the Be-Sharps episode
Homer: [excited] Wait till I tell Marge!
Nigel: [with consternation] Oh, yes...Bouffant Betty. Well, I would prefer if we kept your marriage a secret. You see, a lot of women are going to want to have sex with you, and, er, we want them to think they can.
Homer: Well, if I explain it to Marge that way, I'm sure she'll understand.
That is idol culture in Japan!
They want all the fans to think the girls are virginal and pure and that the audience can woo them and be the ones they fall in love with. Then people become obsessed and react strongly whenever it's shown one has a boyfriend or goes on a date.
It's pretty harmful.
That's fucked up.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Oh yeah. I have heard of that.
Nocturnowl
Member
Based upon our original stage leak I think there might be one more tucked away at least, but then again leaving somewhat garish gaps within the menus seems to be a bit of a thing here so maybe that black area by random stays black.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Talking about idol culture.
You can all be assured this idol's available and pure of heart~ ^.~
You can all be assured this idol's available and pure of heart~ ^.~
Finale Fireworker
Member
You better be.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I don't see your point since he said that Wii U is our last hope. I'm saying that there is a low chance that we could get few more stages to padding 3DS stage roster.
To answer your question: Yeah, I'm totally aware that Wii U have different stages, along with few shared stages with 3DS.
This isn't cultural differences though. Having the "no dating" rule for members of the band is a corporate motive.
SenorArdilla
Member
I thought everyone already knew about how bad Idol Culture was in Japan. They have no life outside of being idols. They can't date, can't smoke, can't do anything that isn't considered "pure."
GameGuru59
Banned
I guess I was saying that there's no need to hope b/c Wii U stages are different. I probably read it wrong. I've had a couple of beers
This is still an awful cop-out.
I'm still holding on the hope there may be a 3DS Exclusive Stages Pack DLC for the Wii U version and viceversa. It really is kind of unbelievable how things look for the 3DS stage roster, with several franchises apparently not having any new stages? Really, even with DK, Yoshi, Metroid and Star Fox hailing all the way back from the original Smash? I hope the philosophy behind this isn't that every stage has a Final Destination form and that sorta qualifies as a new stage to series that don't have one, because it's a laughable explanation.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Not all stages getting Final Destination version tho. I think Sakurai confirmed that.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Green Mamba
Member
Haha, I thought you weren't going to defend it.
And a bunch of very, very, very similar flat stages does not really double the stage roster. Very poor copout, Sah, and you know it.
No new Metroid or Donkey Kong stage means I don't like it.
And did they really make a new fucking Pictochat stage? Ugh.
So it's basically turning people into standardized products.
That's depressing.
I'm not defending it, i'm just saying that it's not all hell.
Yes, Metroid, Star Fox etc. not getting original stages is pure robbery, but at least some of these stages are legit gems.
The Great Gonzales
Member
The backdown.
And I wouldn't count the FD variants as separate stages; it's one stage with multiple skins.
Yeah.... no, that doesn't make up for the lackluster stage selection
Hot Coldman
Banned
It is fucked that Sakurai robbed us of a stage based on the Kursed ending of Star Fox Command
Wow. You'd think this apology video would do more damage than her being seen in public with a boyfriend, since it makes the theater's management look absolutely fucking insane.
Lol guys, I was being a bit sarcastic, but no one caught on.
Lighten up.
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Melee had two retro Mario stages:
Man, I so wish Mushroom Kingdom II would make a comeback. I loved that stage.
"Unforgivable?" Is it really? Come on. The stage selection is a little disappointing, but "unforgivable" is so hyperbolic it's ridiculous, especially when you consider we have a whole 'nother Smash game with a bunch more new stages coming in November, not to mention a massive 48/51 (or more, possibly) character roster.
their response was something along them having no such policy and they're allowed to date whoever they want.
Which makes an interesting precedent that if an idol was seen dating, they shouldn't be able to do much about it...or at least not in an obvious manner
Hispanic! At the Disco
Member
I feel like i missed so much. Thats what I get for sleeping instead of being on SmashGAF! Lol oh well.
Is there any word on how many blocks the 3DS download will be? Im thinking of downloading the game if we dont get the "Double pack" in the US
Is there any word on how many blocks the 3DS download will be? Im thinking of downloading the game if we dont get the "Double pack" in the US
Funny how even though it's never been confirmed, you're so confident the game's coming in November, Mr. NDA...
Joking, it's pretty obvious by now after all the posted/removed dates and whatnot
Green Mamba
Member
You don't value stages as much as me, but if the character roster was this small (smaller than Brawl's here, let's remind everyone) and the stage roster was comparatively large people would absolutely be crying foul. And unless the Wii U version has a considerably larger stage roster then having two less than fully featured Smash games is worse as far as I'm concerned than having one fully featured one. These are two games that are ostensibly supposed to stand on their own. If their stage rosters can't, then the games cannot. I'm sorry.
It's hyperbolic, but so what? Spare me.
SSB3DS stages are more than "unforgivable":
Reset Bomb Forest
Final Destination (looks fucking beautiful)
Spirit Train
Paper Mario
Mario 3D Land
GameBoy
Prism Tower
Arena Ferox
Yoshi's Island
Jungle Japes
Boxing Ring
Gaur Plain
This is just a rough list, there are so many good stages on 3DS.
Reset Bomb Forest
Final Destination (looks fucking beautiful)
Spirit Train
Paper Mario
Mario 3D Land
GameBoy
Prism Tower
Arena Ferox
Yoshi's Island
Jungle Japes
Boxing Ring
Gaur Plain
This is just a rough list, there are so many good stages on 3DS.
I'm pretty much pertaining to the extremity of the apology. It's not that Japanese show business are the only ones who have a "no date" rule. There are others too, but no extreme things being done like shaving one's head and issuing a lengthy public apology.
AKB48 Miis:
These are actually IDOLM@STER voice actresses, not AKB48, but I'm not complaining in the slightest.
I'm still gonna play the stuffing out of this game and am hyped as can be for it (curse having to wait another month, seriously). But it's not hard to see where people's disappointment comes from; if several franchises indeed end up without a new stage, it'll be a first for the series. It's comprehensible if they had to cut corners in order to deal with the development of two whole games, but every other aspect of the 3DS version stood on its own so far; the stage selection is the one area where you actively need to remind yourself they had to split development efforts in another game.
MrSaturn99
Member
I'm pretty sure all of us really like at least some of the new stages they've picked, that's never been the issue.
The problem is just how few of those there are, and how many stages seem to have been ported directly from Brawl. There's fewer new stages than there were in Melee, and that's the issue. I'm sure everyone knew going in that the 3DS version wouldn't be quite as fully featured as previous entries, but we're looking at a game that takes one of the most important pieces of content almost directly from a game most of us have already bought, and then asking retail for it.
That just feels wrong.
The problem is just how few of those there are, and how many stages seem to have been ported directly from Brawl. There's fewer new stages than there were in Melee, and that's the issue. I'm sure everyone knew going in that the 3DS version wouldn't be quite as fully featured as previous entries, but we're looking at a game that takes one of the most important pieces of content almost directly from a game most of us have already bought, and then asking retail for it.
That just feels wrong.
Prism Tower's such a shitty choice though. Everyone hates Lumiose City.
And Jungle Japes again is just eeeaaauurrgh.
I also like the new stages revealed on the 3DS version too. Really interesting mix.
Captainbojanglesiii
Banned
All of these stages look awesome or were awesome previously. I agree entirely.
SenorArdilla
Member
Do people care for Mii QR codes anymore?
Well I have a few I never posted/improved
Mitsudomoe
Kill Me Baby
ののワ (Nonowa) "from" iDOLM@STER
Churuya-san
Blast from the past.
Agreed, plus it has the whole problem Delfino Plaza and Skyloft have-making a stage based on a populated area, but not being able to make it look populated.
But Pokemon gets a pass because N's Castle was by far my most wanted new stage.
Same here. I believe it could even make a great competitive stage, just need to get rid of the edges and changing the walkoff to a big cliff. The carpet is really nice as well.
They could have picked a stage from literally any other KIU chapter bar 1 or 3 and it would have been more interesting. Gaol's Castle, the Space Pirate Ship, Ruined Village, or Hades' Belly would have been ace.
Chapter 11 leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
MrSaturn99
Member
mushroomy kingdom and pictochat are amazing be quiet smashgaf...
OricWindstar
Member
For the most part, I'm really liking the new 3DS stages, but I'm definitely dissapointed with certain series just getting ignored for new content. No new DK, Star Fox, or Metroid in particular are a huge bummer.
Hell, even as a not a huge Sonic fan, I would've loved something like Chemical Plant Zone.
Hell, even as a not a huge Sonic fan, I would've loved something like Chemical Plant Zone.