I can almost guarantee that even if the stage is just a platform or two above a retro style map, it won't be sitting exclusively at that perspective. There really aren't many stages that just float above the scenery that I can think of - the Animal Crossing is the only one that jumps immediately to mind, other than the moving ones which end up as part of the stage anyway - but I do agree they are the lamer ones.
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I can almost guarantee that even if the stage is just a platform or two above a retro style map, it won't be sitting exclusively at that perspective. There really aren't many stages that just float above the scenery that I can think of - the Animal Crossing is the only one that jumps immediately to mind, other than the moving ones which end up as part of the stage anyway - but I do agree they are the lamer ones.
That's my point. Miis are extremely likely, Pilotwings characters aren't.
Pilotwings is a game about flying around islands, I think it would be a pretty stupid idea to have a grounded stage to represent it.
I for one am looking forward to fighting on moving planes and possibly playing as a Pilotwings character (Mii's being the "Pilotwings character" would be pretty disappointing).
Never thought I'd be seeing a Pilotwings stage in SSB, least of all the fucking SNES Pilotwings, amazing.
Going back to your point though, I've never liked the grounded stages, Onett and stuff like the Twilight Princess bridge are cool and all, but I hate stages where the platform goes all the way to the edge of the screen, there's no real opportunities for edge guarding or throwing someone off and trying to get a meteor smash off, it's just boring.
Spear pillar is a good "grounded" stage, but all the perspective and control flipping is rubbish and doing that for every stage would only work if they were all set on the peak of a mountain.
Well I was thinking this stage would be much like Animal Crossing in the last game, a stage with no character. Since this isn't Wuhu Island I won't even view Miis as the Pilotwing rep (especially as they are far more diverse than that)
Azure Dream
Member
Actually, the more I think about it the more I feel like we'll be fighting above it with platforms.
What if you're fighting on top of a giant hang glider, that tilts back and forth during the battle?
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
SNES PILOTWINGS STAGE!!!OMGWTFBBQGFAGHFKTUFY2682t92hjnssuhsu2
THIS is the kind of out-of-the-blue, random-ass reveal I've been waiting for!
If either Tony, Shirley, Lance, or Big Al is revealed as a character I might just die.
THIS is the kind of out-of-the-blue, random-ass reveal I've been waiting for!
If either Tony, Shirley, Lance, or Big Al is revealed as a character I might just die.
D
Deleted member 74300
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Oh yes this stage will have some good music for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Il5IccYlvo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76EXuPy4Dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmEApebqmeE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Il5IccYlvo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76EXuPy4Dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmEApebqmeE
Golden Sun stage and character next please Sakuraiiiii! You just had to make Isaac a damn assist trophy instead. I'll forgive you for that due to adding Mega to this game though.
Yes, for Pilotwings some kind of flying does seem logical of course ;-) I agree. But why then use a pixelated background instead of something more akin to Pilotwings on the N64 or 3DS?
Oh well, for the gameplay itself these kind of aesthetic details don't matter matter too much I guess. Speaking of which, I do find your gameplay perspective on the grounded stages interesting.
If I remember correctly, the original concept of Smash Bros. (you know, the one not featuring Nintendo characters yet) did feature floating stages as well, so your experience that grounded stages with floors that extend to the sides of the screen result in more boring gameplay and less tactical options, seems very fair. It might simply be because I started playing fighting games with Street Fighter etc where every stage is grounded that I have trouble adjusting to this concept. I'll be sure to give it another go when the new game comes out though.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Dat Soya Oka music hnnnngggh
For me, I have way more nostalgia and excitement for SNES pilotwings than it's sequels, so I love seeing that ol' pixelated map. I'm the same with F-Zero, if it turned out one of the F-Zero stages was playing on the Death Wind stage with a Death Wind remix playing? I would be hyped about that more than anything else they could possibly do for an F-Zero stage.
And yeah, I definitely think there are more tactical opportunities with non-ground stages, the sheer amount of movement options in smash bros. is what really sets the game apart from other fighting games (MK, SF, MvC) that I've played, I feel like limiting that kinda dumbs down the game a bit because it makes it too easy to just grab someone on the edge of the screen and cheese it a bit.
I do think it would be interesting to have a few stages like other fighting games where there wasn't an "edge" of the screen per se, kind of like Shadow Moses Island in Brawl but without the destructible walls, but the meat of smash stages for me is platforms floating above Nintendo locations or whizzing around random islands.
On another topic, what if Link's side B got replaced with the hookshot? Keep his grab being a hookshot for the range but what if pressing side b (and also tilting it up or down to aim it slightly), would damage them and pull you towards them so you can attack again?
I really like Link's boomerang, but if they replaced it with something that worked like that, I'd be pretty okay with it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Actually it should be of, when will we know the date of Direct?
Red Rudolph
Member
I dunno, I think it looks like it's zoomed in a lot. Like maybe there might be a good deal more going on, and that the island is kind of a cameo background element. Hence why we're seeing no platforms whatsoever. He's paused it and zoomed in quite a bit.
49 years after the game is out? That's not very efficient.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That's why I mentioned that it might came from Wuhu Island Stage.
Akibastman
Member
Yes, please. And the hang glider is flying over the island of course.
It'll be about the New Play Control rerererelease of the game where you use virtual reality controls made possible on the Nintendo Wii VR!!!!!
MisterHero
Super Member
Wave Race/1080 can be represented by Ricky Winterborne, who's traded his snowboard for a skateboard.
I imagine it'll be like the Kid Icarus shot, very sparse amounts of shots.
joffocakes
Member
A Pilotwings stage? Amazing. Amazing amazing. I love Pilotwings. Stick Pilotwings 64 on the Wii U virtual console for me too, please.
Does that imply there'll be a Pilotwings character? Dunno who that would be. As long as we get some of the music I'm very happy. I used to fly around in GTAIV's helicopter in first person with the Pilotwings Gyrocopter music playing as my custom soundtrack.
Does that imply there'll be a Pilotwings character? Dunno who that would be. As long as we get some of the music I'm very happy. I used to fly around in GTAIV's helicopter in first person with the Pilotwings Gyrocopter music playing as my custom soundtrack.
MisterHero
Super Member
Pilotwings Resort used Miis. I'd rather have Lark with a moveset dedicated to Pilotwings though. Miis have all kinds of sports to pull moves from.
Shaders are hard.
There needs to be a Wuhu Island. I'm sure that stage is iconic.
Not saying anything negative about the PilotWings stage, but it just looks bland from that one screenshot, so hopefully it will be more immersive.
There's a Brawl Mod of Wuhu Island, and it's pretty good although it doesn't land anywhere at the moment:
SSBB Mods - Wuhu Island 1.0
Not saying anything negative about the PilotWings stage, but it just looks bland from that one screenshot, so hopefully it will be more immersive.
There's a Brawl Mod of Wuhu Island, and it's pretty good although it doesn't land anywhere at the moment:
SSBB Mods - Wuhu Island 1.0
I'm sure Wuhu Island will be based on the 3DS.
They could use the Pilotwings version or steal the Mario Kart one and make a moving stage out of it.
Brainiac 8
Member
Odder than a stage based on Super Mario 2?
Or Electroplankton?
Or the DS Doodlechat or whatever it was called?
This is Sakurai, his unpredictability is one of his best/worst qualities.
I'd rather have Wuhu Island on the U and use the Streetpass Plaza games as inspiration for the Mii stage on the 3DS. Though what I visualise is based on the latest update with the scrolling screen and rabbit holes which is likely too new to be included in Smash now.
I think it's odd looking because we see no platform. It just looks like a flat background with no life to it.
Obviously there'll be platforms, i'm just saying.
Wuhu Island belongs on consoles. It originated in Wii Fit and also got use in Wii Sports Resort, and it's coming to Wii U in Wii Fit U eventually.
Are you sure that won't be WuhuU Island?
Possibly so, but it also works on the 3DS.
It could be thrown both ways, they're both likely to get it.
Game title confirmed! Super Smash Bros. Universe!
Sakurai also uploaded a new trailer today, i'm surprised there was no press release for this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOcEQW5w6VE
Sakurai also uploaded a new trailer today, i'm surprised there was no press release for this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOcEQW5w6VE
lol it's a hilarious trailer
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Did you posted that long time ago in this thread?
Nope, not me. I just stumbled across it on YouTube and found it hilarious.
Now THAT is an example of wishful thinking out of left field that would even shame most people here! I could totally get behind this idea mind you.
Sigh, why did this franchise have to die Konami? Why!?