metalslimer
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Yeah unless RDR2 shows up i don't believe it.
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Take Two CEO "Nintendo is making a 'great effort' to support 3rd parties on Switch"
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The Main Event
Member
Bethesda is on board. Bethesda. On a Nintendo console.
AcademicSaucer
Member
many third parties were talking shit about the wii u by this time before launch tho.
metalslimer
Member
With a skyrim port. EA also showed up with a late Mass effect port on wiiu.
Also from what we know the switch is not a generation behind the base ps4/xbone
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
Yep. Nintendo courts 3rd parties, 3rd parties make mediocre games that don't sell, then 3rd parties leave the platform thinking only Nintendo games sell on it.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Saying they're excited for a new console launch isn't exactly the same as saying Nintendo is making a great effort to support 3rd party devs.
Saucycarpdog
Member
Why isn't Nintendo themselves saying this?
It doesn't make sense for a third party to say this when its Nintendo who has to convince them.
It doesn't make sense for a third party to say this when its Nintendo who has to convince them.
Aces&Eights
Member
That's great but I'm buying a Switch for nintendo games, really. Christ, I would buy it just for Zelda alone at this point. It feels like the game is never coming out.
OrbitalBeard
Member
That article was published nearly 18 months before Wii U launched.
Here's what Take Two's CEO said less than six months before it launched:
"We haven't announced anything," says Zelnick on the possibility of moving the company's mature titles onto the Wii U. "I'm skeptical."
For the sake of context, Switch launches in four months. I don't think Take Two will release much outside of sports and family games, but they're definitely more optimistic about the platform publicly than they were on Wii U.
People are experiencing cognitive dissonance when it comes from the proverbial horse's mouth (this thread), you expect them to believe Nintendo? We have gold metal gymnasts in here stretching every which way, they'd bend into circles to dispute it if Nintendo said it.
People are already making up alternate history just to keep themselves calm.
Father_Brain
Banned
Yeah, no. I don't believe for a second that the likes of EA, Take Two, or Bethesda will offer more than token support. Granted, even token support from the latter two is still more than I would have expected.
I will also be shocked if Switch gets more than a handful of direct ports of current-gen AAA titles over its lifespan, and if most of those it does get aren't from Ubisoft.
I will also be shocked if Switch gets more than a handful of direct ports of current-gen AAA titles over its lifespan, and if most of those it does get aren't from Ubisoft.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I want to believe, but yeah, this. We'll see.
Thanks for the link, yeah that's definitely better than the Wii U situation.
I know its you, but I feel like its still worth pointing out that this is a lie.
Take Two never mentioned great support by Nintendo regarding Wii and Wii U.
James Scott
Banned
Switch has a modern features and it's also the 3DS's successor. Instead of just being the worst version with *maybe* some control gimmick you end up with a version that's portable which should be a selling point to some.
Again, I wouldn't expect anything amazing but better than Wii U is easy.
I hope Namco will release their Tales Of games on it, starting with Berseria. That's the only JRPG franchise I miss on Nintendo console (fortunately they've been releasing them on Steam recently).
disappeared
Banned
Talk's cheap. It always has been leading up to Nintendo hardware launches.
I'm trying to be as optimistic as possible but it's been the same dog-and-pony show the last twenty years now.
Fucking Stockholm syndrome at this point.
I'm trying to be as optimistic as possible but it's been the same dog-and-pony show the last twenty years now.
Fucking Stockholm syndrome at this point.
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3rd party support at launch that slowly fades away within the first year. Same thing that happened with WII U. They had games like Mass Effect and Batman and Zombi at launch and within a year the 3rd party support fell off a cliff because the install base wasn't there.
OrbitalBeard
Member
A year? Try, like, five months.
SolidSnakex
Member
Well, Take-Two being excited and Rockstar being excited are two different things. Many got really excited about E3 this year because before it started Strauss Zelnick (TT CEO) said that they'd be there in a big way. Some took that to mean that it was time for RDR2's announcement. But in reality it meant that they setup a huge Mafia 3 booth. Rockstar kinda operates in their own world even though TT owns them.
But like I said before, there's no game Nintendo could announce at the Switch event that would be a bigger deal for them than RDR2. It obviously wouldn't be exclusive in any way, but it would be a huge signal of just how much things have changed for Nintendo when it comes to third party developers. It's obviously the biggest third party game set to release next year. Can they secure it for the platform?
thepenguin55
Member
Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like the key difference is here that it's a 3rd party company saying this whereas in the past it's generally been Nintendo saying that they're really supporting 3rd parties.
Father_Brain
Banned
Just as importantly, also because the target demographic for those franchises wasn't there. But still, I see no reason yet to think that things won't play out similarly, even though the hardware is bound to sell better.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
This is different, and really unprecedented. Will be interesting how this turns out.
If you really think Switch will do as bad Wii U...
shira
Member
They didn't say anything about 3rd party current AAA support. Just 3rd party support.
#FingercrossedUndertale&StardewValley
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
If Switch has as low sales as WiiU of course, but it seems Switch has a much better starting point in every sense.
hans_castorp
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We've heard that before
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Father_Brain
Banned
In terms of hardware sales, almost certainly not.
In terms of catering to the Sony/MS demographic necessary for continued support from major Western third parties, I honestly don't see it doing much better. I don't think that many people are really clamoring for portable versions of the same games they can already play on PS4/XB1, even feature-complete ones.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
"Unprecedented Partnerships with Nintendo for the Wii U"
Yeah, don't read too much into this. I'm pretty sure there's a Nintendo with third-parties cycle.
Nintendo announces new hardware -> Third parties get excited -> Release a handful of games at launch along with some ports -> Nintendo does nothing to promote or assist with third party development -> Devs leave one by one -> Nintendo is stuck as the only developer.
Every single console since the N64.
Yeah, don't read too much into this. I'm pretty sure there's a Nintendo with third-parties cycle.
Nintendo announces new hardware -> Third parties get excited -> Release a handful of games at launch along with some ports -> Nintendo does nothing to promote or assist with third party development -> Devs leave one by one -> Nintendo is stuck as the only developer.
Every single console since the N64.
Basically. I don't think Switch will be the platform that breaks the cycle for them.
Just because the wording is slightly different slightly closer to launch doesn't mean shit. Third parties will put their usual test games on Nintendo, they fail, good bye third party support on Nintendo platform.
JonnyDBrit
Member
To be honest, the more I think on it, the more I wonder if some third parties are just excited by the possibility of being able to have their games on portable devices with (presumably) enough oomph to back it up. TakeTwo would be acutely aware of the significance of this, given their troubles with the Borderlands 2 port for PSVita. Thus if the Switch provides a portable that is powerful enough for their needs, even if still needing a downgrade from XBO/PS4 graphics, then yeah I could imagine them being receptive to it.
Or of course it could be PR talk and initial hype, but that won't pan out as the Switch is actually out on the market for a few years. We'll see.
Or of course it could be PR talk and initial hype, but that won't pan out as the Switch is actually out on the market for a few years. We'll see.
VolticArchangel
Member
The PR drivel makes us think that it confirms their full support on the Switch, probably at launch with some of their already released, but it's pretty much routine for 3RD party pubs before a console launch.
Nintendo would be all for them to not just bring their sports titles, but the BIG IP's and end that dodgy relationship with R*, first off. No more prototypes only and ease up on content censorship.
GTAV is NOT like GTAIV from a marketing standpoint. It's become, both multiple times bigger than most IP's out there today and a platform manufacturer's feast for PR for their machine. R* will have the same effect with marketing RDR2.
Nintendo would be all for them to not just bring their sports titles, but the BIG IP's and end that dodgy relationship with R*, first off. No more prototypes only and ease up on content censorship.
GTAV is NOT like GTAIV from a marketing standpoint. It's become, both multiple times bigger than most IP's out there today and a platform manufacturer's feast for PR for their machine. R* will have the same effect with marketing RDR2.
At the very least its in a different key. Bethesda of all companies is saying polite things.
There is certainly some room for measured optimism, but yeah, past performance and all that.
family_guy
Member
So? When it comes down to it, it's the consumers who have been passing on most third party games on Nintendo platforms since the Gamecube. Nintendo can't do anything about that.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
"...which is why we are supporting Switch with GTA 3."
I really don't expect third-party support. I'd like to be proven wrong.
I really don't expect third-party support. I'd like to be proven wrong.
MisterR
Member
Took me less than a minute to google game developers praising wii u to find multiple articles with the likes or Epic, Gearbox, Ubisoft, Irrational, ect praising the wii u. Dev's always say nice things about Nintendo. They seldom actually deliver games to the platform.
MisterHero
Super Member
I'll take ports of any 3D GTA. Just sayin'.
Except GTAIV.
Except GTAIV.
While I agree, Bethesda of all people being on board with the Switch has to mean they are at least doing SOMETHING right this time around.