He has to get in line man behind 80% of the population.
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Talk about double standards (Wall Street Journal vs. PewDiePie)
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He has to get in line man behind 80% of the population.
Sure. Assholes can have a point sometimes.
But if we're to use your analogy in this context, this is more like if you'd be falling down a building and several people would come to your emergency aid before you realize you have a bungee attached already, and one of the people in the back that's helping you get on your feet happens to be someone who's kind of an unsympathetic cock.
Carl of Akkad was not the first or even only one to jump to his defense. Pretty sure h3h3 was already there day one, and he has by far a much larger audience.
There were plenty of others that came to his defense though. He chose two vile people over his friends.
flintstryker
Banned
Its a good thing Sargon isn't the only person defending Pewdiepie then.
In any event my point stands not because you hate someone doesn't invalidate every single thing they say, the world is not black and white where people are either pure evil or jesus christ
You think HE is handling this well?
underscore_underscore
Neo Member
I wasn't familiar with Sargon, saw people calling him a fascist and wanted to know what he did to be called that.
Thanks for the links to those that posted them, will definitely look into it. (in class, will watch the videos later given their length)
Piwdiepie should actually sue WSJ for this. It's slander.
Anyone who has watched his show, and people like me who just started watching for the first time to see what was going on under the "scandal", can see that pewdiepie clearly is not anti-semitic or racist for that matter. He acted insensitively by treating nazi imagery so lightly, which was probably wrong, but that's a long way from holding anti-semitic beliefs and promoting anti-semitism. The meaning of anything cannot be separated from context to be accurate.
I've actually lost all respect for WSJ now. I used to think they were a highly credible paper/site.
Also, the I KILL HITLER! episode was both hilarious and the perfect response. Made WSJ look like the fools they apparently are.
I guess he makes an easy target looking the way he does, but that in itself is the definition of prejudice.
Anyone who has watched his show, and people like me who just started watching for the first time to see what was going on under the "scandal", can see that pewdiepie clearly is not anti-semitic or racist for that matter. He acted insensitively by treating nazi imagery so lightly, which was probably wrong, but that's a long way from holding anti-semitic beliefs and promoting anti-semitism. The meaning of anything cannot be separated from context to be accurate.
I've actually lost all respect for WSJ now. I used to think they were a highly credible paper/site.
Also, the I KILL HITLER! episode was both hilarious and the perfect response. Made WSJ look like the fools they apparently are.
I guess he makes an easy target looking the way he does, but that in itself is the definition of prejudice.
Spyder_Monkey
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You're right, the Daily Stormer is as well.
WhiskeyKnight
Member
Oh come on, Sargon is not a fascist. He's definitely a conservative, but that doesn't make him a fascist. Each side of the political divide has gotten so damn hyperbolic, it makes it impossible to have a an actual discussion.
jack_package_200
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Didn't Sargon do a recent video that defends Milo and his fucked up comments?
Not exactly the best company to be around, Pewds.
Not exactly the best company to be around, Pewds.
KZXcellent
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Not at all. I was vocal in the previous threads on how he screwed up with this. This is reinforced thanks to the responses other people made in this thread informing me about the people PDP is now associating with.
That said I feel like people are being really soft of the WSJ. Both parties have handled this poorly.
ForkNetwork
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Yo, some people just dont know. Learning about these topics can be tricky so thats why some prefer to ask "why" instead of jumping to conclusions. I"ve done it, and I have learned a lot thanks to people that respond politely and with information.
I hope this message doesnt come across as an attack.
RichiRamjag
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Even still, their points were shoddy as best and that vox headline was just stupid. Maybe they can stop trying to turn people into villains.
Scientist Supreme!
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I can't believe people are continually defending this guy. What a pos to run these kinda people because the "media" is being mean to you.
THey get views and get more shitty people to actually belive in those views. How did the whole SJW thing start? Someone said an incorrect term about social justice and now everyone hates social justice. You have to take it seriously or it grows into a monster.
Also, let's be clear, we're talking abut PDP who had a death to all jews sign in one of his videos which is what this whole thing started as.
Cozying up to an alt righter who basically believes overt racism and sexism is okay and if you call that out you are an SJW is detrimental to his image by default.
Yeah, gotta agree with people, linking to Sargon and that other guy is not a good idea/look. I get that those made videos that are defending you and there is this us (yt) vs them (media) mentality, but those channels are undeniably utter trash. If I had social media, I would call him out on that.
That said, from watching his content every now and then I have no reason to believe PDP is alt right. And I mostly agree with this video.
That said, from watching his content every now and then I have no reason to believe PDP is alt right. And I mostly agree with this video.
You right
NoblesseOblige
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Probably. Sargon only exists because he was an early avatar for GamerGate to rally behind. He's probably been aligned to Milo for years.
It is a dumb as fuck PR move to accept help from people who make you seem worse than you already seem. He needs professional help with this. Instead he's just elevating the profile of one of the worst people on YouTube.
And, isn't it obvious that if the WSJ has a journalist on staff with a serious conflict of interest, they'll fire him and move on? Plagiarizism scandals happen fairly regularly but the Atlantic and NYT etc are still deeply respected institutions. Folks acting like PDP has "eviscerated" the WSJ are embarrassing themselves.
ClosingADoor
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So we are encouraging doxing now? Witch hunts on journalists you don't agree with? Isn't this the exact same tactic from the Gamergater crew and all that bullshit? If you know you have an army of vocal followers, maybe take that into account and deal with that responsibility.
"Good publicity" got his show cancelled and how sponsors dropped.
Calling out click bait "News" is how it should be done.
ArchedThunder
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Yeah... PewDiePie can fuck off.
In case you don't know that was a reference to the Dailystormer having "The world's #1 PewDiePie fansite" written on their site. People asked why he didn't distance himself from it, but now the WSJ is apparently not distancing themselves from it either.
Since I pointed it out in the other thread, that JK Rowling image is a fucking Photoshop. But please, let's talk about how it's the mainstream media that's solely responsible for smearing people.
His Majesty
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Completely agree. Maybe we should reserve words like fascism and nazi's for cases when it's really warranted. Throwing them around as easily like this is shameful. No nuance in politics anymore I guess.
A lot of people are right in a lot of ways, and make great points about many things, but that doesn't absolve them from the consequences of their actions. I don't hope that his career burns, the only one responsible for any burning bridges is himself.
The thing is, even if it's a hypocritical witch hunt from the WSJ, does that change what he got flak and got dropped for? Him lashing out at those who have attacked him, even if they themselves are hypocritical or use very contrived reasoning to look for something to pile up on him more, doesn't change anything about his own actions or the fact that others (Disney, YouTube, etc) will react to them.
ClosingADoor
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When it's on Youtube, it's just a prank, bro /s
If you get an ad, yes. But the amount is so tiny, don't worry too much about it if you are interested in his arguments.
He is a trump supporter who has essentially waved away everything Trump has done so far.
And incase you didn't catch just one of his gems, he literally thinks us black people have lower IQ's by default
That is not something to be defended. Your barometer for hyperbole is out of wack
malboroking
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Wow, Sargon of Akkad huh? That's pretty fucking pathetic Pewds. He's just upset that someone called him out for making videos for the lowest common denominator. Is is going to start making cuck jokes next?
Why is pewds linking to fucking Sargon? It's one thing to have Sargon defend you and you ignore it.
Now you're willingly linking to that content and associating with it. Fuck off.
Oh and for anyone defending Sargon or pewds associating with him. This man thinks on average I have a lower IQ because of my skin color. Fuck him and anyone who supports or defends him.
Now you're willingly linking to that content and associating with it. Fuck off.
Oh and for anyone defending Sargon or pewds associating with him. This man thinks on average I have a lower IQ because of my skin color. Fuck him and anyone who supports or defends him.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
The WSJ is rightfully getting exposed for the garbage they post.
They are abusing their position in the media hierarchy and that entire hierarchy can't crumble fast enough.
They are abusing their position in the media hierarchy and that entire hierarchy can't crumble fast enough.
Corronchilejano
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I will not reply to your comment until you have watched the video, because it's in the video.
Spyder_Monkey
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Might as well scrap whatever publicity he can before he inevitably implodes.
KZXcellent
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I'm sorry what. Yeah I'm gonna hop out of this thread. Learning about this dude has left me beyond disgusted.
it was apparently a shop that got taken seriously
Calm waterfall
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The fuck is this? His show is not diet racist, and lol at people associating him with alt right. Everything and everyone you don´t agree with now is alt right, right? You are as bad as the people you hate.
platina
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Lol no
flintstryker
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This I definitely agree with, Pew probably need to hire some PR person, my main point was just that someone you hate can make decent points now and again and admitting that doesn't mean you have to stop hating said someone.
But the WSJ also showed nazi messages.
Scientist Supreme!
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ZeBraTurtle
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People saying that he should just let it go dont understand what the heck happened to him in the first place.
Listen I like Pewdiepie so I may be a little biased but if you put 2 and 2 together you would realize that WSJ went out of there way to make the initial situation way worse then it actually was.
Anywho why in the world would Pewdiepie drop it when WSJ did the following things:
- Got his 2nd season of his show canceled
- Got him dropped from his sponsors
- Almost got him completely demonetized from youtube
- Did all this without contacting him first.
Just dont understand how people can say he can't be mad at them lol.
Listen I like Pewdiepie so I may be a little biased but if you put 2 and 2 together you would realize that WSJ went out of there way to make the initial situation way worse then it actually was.
Anywho why in the world would Pewdiepie drop it when WSJ did the following things:
- Got his 2nd season of his show canceled
- Got him dropped from his sponsors
- Almost got him completely demonetized from youtube
- Did all this without contacting him first.
Just dont understand how people can say he can't be mad at them lol.
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