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Team Fortress 2 Sniper Update Info, Pyro Megaton
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MrPing1000
Member
Here's hoping valve have data on people idling for hours on end and takes all their items away for a week.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
MrPing1000 said:
Wow, it offends you that people get items without having to work for them? Isn't that the whole point of the system? :lol
On a non-internet-argument note, does anyone know how exactly the dead ringer damage reduction works? Someone on F7 was apparently using it to avoid dying to backstabs, though I guess that's a glitch. I feel like it does some sort of reduction, though I don't think it always saves you. I should test it with sniper headshots or something.
Firestorm said:
Same, I never used achievement servers(aside from medic, because his set was awful) and got all the unlocks fine, but now I'm using idle servers when I leave the game hoping to get stuff.
MrPing1000 said:
Then people will outrage more, idle servers would be no more, and people would go into normal servers to hold down left click beating a wall as engineer or something...sounds much better. :lol
As it is now, idlers aren't doing anything to you, no reason to get all offended.
Also,
MrPing1000 said:
Yeah...if I had your luck, or hell, ANY of the new unlocks, I would not be doing this.
). Hopefully I'll get one of those new rooty tooty point n shooty guns today.
jaundicejuice
Member
It amazes me that Valve came up with a solution for the people who complained about achievement unlocks yet they still have to find an exploit because its not immediate enough. I earned all three of the milestones for Heavy and Pyro in under 8 hours of regular play, Medic and Scout have taken me a bit longer to reach just the second milestones because the Medic Achievements are a bit wacky (9 hours) and I'm a shitty Scout (12 hours).
I used the achievements to learn how to play the game when I first picked Team Fortress 2 up on PC. I had played vanilla TF2 for a bit on consoles before but the class updates were new to me. I didn't know the Pyro's air blast could reflect/redirect a soldier's missles or a demoman's pipebombs. I thought it just shut the flamethrower off when it wouldn't stop spewing flames. The achievements gave me a basic framework when I first started playing, they do so with every class I'm unfamiliar with.
I used the achievements to learn how to play the game when I first picked Team Fortress 2 up on PC. I had played vanilla TF2 for a bit on consoles before but the class updates were new to me. I didn't know the Pyro's air blast could reflect/redirect a soldier's missles or a demoman's pipebombs. I thought it just shut the flamethrower off when it wouldn't stop spewing flames. The achievements gave me a basic framework when I first started playing, they do so with every class I'm unfamiliar with.
The Dead Ringer really reduces damage, damn. I got hit by a crit rocket and only lost 19 health. I'm still really bad at effectively using it though, the uncloak noise it makes is loud, and no normal cloak makes it hard to get behind the enemy without being obvious.
Gully State
Member
What do you guys mean by "semi-cloak?"
Gully State
Member
Botolf said:
ic...so cloak and dagger vs dead ringer, which one in your opinion is "better?"
I haven't gotten the Dead Ringer yet, but I've seen it used. If you're a Pyro, the ringer is pretty easy to foil (I did it unintentionally and saw the real spy running down the tunnel in flames). There's no regular cloak, so I guess you have to be convincing in a disguise.Gully State said:
The Cloak and Dagger really is powerful if used correctly, though. I've been practising with it on 2Fort, I can usually get deep into the enemy base without being detected at all. There's all sorts of low-traffic sweet spots where you can wait for gaps in enemy movements. It can also be effective for sapping, wherein you can hover near a sentry, waiting for the exact moment the engie leaves.
EvilDick34
Banned
I find that the best thing for you to do against dead ringers is to play pyro, shock i know. Whenever i kill a spy now, i just start flamming every square inch of the area i just killed the spy in and if he is there, he gets lit up good.
PotatoeMasher
Member
WOOHOO! Razorback is mine... hoping for spy stuff next. All this while taking a shower.
Gully State said:
I haven't gotten the dead ringer yet, but the cloak and dagger is some of the most fun I've had with TF2, ever. I am by no means a good spy, but if you've got good timing and a little patience you can get deep into enemy territory without too much problem. I've won a few rounds on Pipeline and Egypt just by getting past the enemy line and taking down the lone engie/sniper to cap the last point before anyone else even realizes what's going on.
Evading enemies that have spotted you is a cinch as well. As long as there aren't any pyros around it's pretty easy to give em the slip, find a spot where they aren't looking for you and just. stand. still. I find standing next to objects sticking out from walls to be very useful, as if someone bumps into you they are much less likely to notice. And crouch! They won't see you down there!
PotatoeMasher
Member
Now I'm hungry for Oreos.
Greatest laugh I had with the Cloak and Dagger would have to be this:
I sat still in a corner in the enemy base, up against a hose and some boards. An Engineer walked up to me in a corner, turned around before he bumped into me and started building a dispenser. Naturally, I uncloaked immediately and backstabbed him and sapped it. I moved to the other corner and let my watch recharge :lol
I sat still in a corner in the enemy base, up against a hose and some boards. An Engineer walked up to me in a corner, turned around before he bumped into me and started building a dispenser. Naturally, I uncloaked immediately and backstabbed him and sapped it. I moved to the other corner and let my watch recharge :lol
Botolf said:
I can't wait to get that, but the Dead Ringer has some funny moments too. My funniest was probably getting chased by a demoman, pulling the watch out when he bonked me with a bottle, then he TAUNTED while I got behind for the backstab.
PotatoeMasher
Member
:lol :lol :lol
OK--I'm starting a poll. Speak your mind, GAF.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=ckQxd2FsT3p2NW51dVRIZEpWNlpQTFE6MA..
OK--I'm starting a poll. Speak your mind, GAF.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=ckQxd2FsT3p2NW51dVRIZEpWNlpQTFE6MA..
PotatoeMasher
Member
Firestorm said:
That sounds like an improved lottery concept--ultimately what they'll probably end up doing I think.
Orellio said:
Any achievement_* map.
BobJustBob
Member
PotatoeMasher said:
Nah, that's a terrible idea. The point is that this system is perfectly fair, rewarding everyone regardless of skill.
The problem is you feel like your actions are having no effect on what you earn. Points are an easy enough thing to earn. Each class gains points for what they're supposed to be doing so it emphasizes playing the class correctly. Even new players earn 10+ points in their first few games.BobJustBob said:
The current system is like getting loot in an MMO for just sitting there. The system I suggested is like getting loot after killing a monster.
There needs to be some feedback for the player. They need to feel like they did something to receive the reward. Otherwise, it's not a reward.
PotatoeMasher
Member
BobJustBob said:
My bad--I said improved, but meant that as it's an evolution of the current system. I make no judgments on quality until the stuff shows up in the game.
PotatoeMasher
Member
traveler said:
Damn. It was, and I went back and added the currency system in its place. Didn't mean to do that.