Pai Pai Master
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The problem is implementing only half of the new system. Had item trading been included with this update, the randomized drops would actually make sense. Currently the system is broken because it's unfinished and half-assed.
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Team Fortress 2 Sniper Update Info, Pyro Megaton
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Darklord said:
Nice stereotyping us as "pasty nerds", and ignoring the posts here that actually, calmly list reasons and examples why this system is silly and isn't working properly, and what alternatives could have been better.
If you're talking about Steam forum rage, then that's different...I don't think people here have been raging on that level.
Same thing here. Troll elsewhere please.
undrtakr900
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Same here that was awesome:lolVolcynika said:
Gully State
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Anony said:
It's an awesome get out of jail free card. As long as you don't run into a pyro, it allows you to run away safely should you get caught.
Basically the lesson here is don't go to the Steam forums ever. It's just not worth it.
And I like this system. Gets rid of stupid achievement farming, means you don't have teams made up entirely of the class that has the new unlocks, and you get items at a decent rate assuming you aren't extremely unlucky.
I mean I have 11 sniper achievements and 12 spy ones. So I should have one unlock from each I think, going by the old system. I have a Huntsman and no spy unlocks, but I also got an Ubersaw, KGB, Bonk drink and a Sandman, (and some duplicates I can ditch later) all while playing as whatever class I wanted, without having to do any stupidly specific achievement whoring stuff.
And even if I didn't unlock anything I probably wouldn't give a shit. I don't play this game to unlock weapons.
Also as for the whole "They should have waited until the system is finished" argument, remember that they had to put the backpack up early to test it in the wild. It seems pretty likely that they had to do the same thing with these unlocks.
Basically we can have a working system that isn't 100% complete, or they could have launched it all at once but then quite likely encountered loads of bugs which also would have pissed people off.
And I like this system. Gets rid of stupid achievement farming, means you don't have teams made up entirely of the class that has the new unlocks, and you get items at a decent rate assuming you aren't extremely unlucky.
I mean I have 11 sniper achievements and 12 spy ones. So I should have one unlock from each I think, going by the old system. I have a Huntsman and no spy unlocks, but I also got an Ubersaw, KGB, Bonk drink and a Sandman, (and some duplicates I can ditch later) all while playing as whatever class I wanted, without having to do any stupidly specific achievement whoring stuff.
And even if I didn't unlock anything I probably wouldn't give a shit. I don't play this game to unlock weapons.
Also as for the whole "They should have waited until the system is finished" argument, remember that they had to put the backpack up early to test it in the wild. It seems pretty likely that they had to do the same thing with these unlocks.
Basically we can have a working system that isn't 100% complete, or they could have launched it all at once but then quite likely encountered loads of bugs which also would have pissed people off.
I can't help but wonder if the system is still broken, seeing as how I haven't unlocked anything in the past 7 hours. Surely I should at least be getting a drop once every hour?
I'm guessing resetting my stats was a shitty idea, if this system does unlock faster depending on how long you've played. :\
I'm guessing resetting my stats was a shitty idea, if this system does unlock faster depending on how long you've played. :\
Gully State
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Anony said:
Didn't know that..thanks.
Darklord said:
Ah ok. I don't think Valve is terrible or the game is terrible, I just think one aspect is silly...but fortunately I've been lucky. You can have my extra bonk drink, ambassador, dead ringer, blutsauger, and natascha if you want.
*edit* Three blutsaugers.
Also, I thought the dead ringer put out fire or at least made you invisible...when I cloaked using it I think it still showed me in flames though. I need to test some more.
Not sure how effective the razorback is. I saw a guy using it today, so instead of stabbing him I just shot him in the face with the Ambassador. He still didn't really have much of a chance. To any snipers who have used it: does it seem like you are getting attacked by spies any less? Honestly, when I come across a sniper with the shield, I just use the gun instead of the knife and most of them die before they can really do anything. Doesn't seem like it's worth giving up the speed for.
Dreavus said:
I agree. I backstabbed a sniper once and got killed by the machete, but the sniper would have to have REALLY fast reflexes to switch and turn before the spy changes weapons and shoots him, if it's even possible to be faster. And against any spy using the pistol or ambassador, a sniper doesn't have much of a chance unless they're amazing at insta-scope shooting or arrow aiming.
Also, just got my third force-a-nature, woot.
The razorback is a problem if the sniper isn't totally isolated. Instead of stabbing him and cloaking and noone knowing, now he can warn his team that a spy is around, which is going to make your life difficult. But yeah if he's on his own you'll probably kill him, but then again that is supposed to be one of the sniper's weaknesses anyway.
Spotless Mind
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I got Dead Ringer. This thing is awesome. I was wiping out groups of people as they were pushing the cart on goldrush. You're totally screwed if a pyro is nearby though. >_>
:lol Ok, i'm so doing this later on tonight.evlcookie said:
benjipwns
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I don't think it's that out of place, he IS German after all.VaLiancY said:
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Gully State
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i've been sitting in an achievement server for like 2 hours now and i've picked up my 3rd and 4th FAN and my 2nd Natascha. i'm not sure how this trading thing will work since by the time it hits, everyone will have duplicates of all the weapons (or hopefully should)
Cohsae said:
I don't play the game just to unlock weapons, but once the update of them comes out, I'd certainly like to join the fun and try them out. Spy is my second most played class after pyro, so I'm dying for some of his new stuff, yet after getting 12 of his achievements(9 for the sniper...and still a lot of playing as pyro) I have yet to get any unlocks at all. It just gets frustrating being in a server for a while, seeing some guy randomly join and get something like the huntsman within 10 seconds of spawning.
firex said:
Yeah, you don't have the normal cloaking thing with the dead ringer. When you right click a watch activates and the first time you take damage causes you to do your thing. I don't think it's going to be very useful against experienced people unless it suppresses the visibility of damage for a short time. I know I'm going to plant a couple extra shots through spies whether I mean to or not, possibly revealing the ruse.
There are idling servers just for it. If you can't find one because they are all full try one of the achievement based ones. They *shouldn't* kick you or have a short time limit on maps.
I have TF2 running in a small window, minimize it, check it again 20 mins later to make sure im connected, repeat. I will probably leave it on all night tonight :lol
I have TF2 running in a small window, minimize it, check it again 20 mins later to make sure im connected, repeat. I will probably leave it on all night tonight :lol
PillowKnight
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I just got kicked from one. Managed to get the Ambassador and Jarate while I was away though.evlcookie said:
It looks like the aussie servers, gamespace and their achievement servers, may not kick you for idling. I have been idling on a few of their servers for a couple of hours now.
Americans would get a shit ping but since you would be in spectate mode, i doubt its a huge issue.
Americans would get a shit ping but since you would be in spectate mode, i doubt its a huge issue.
It has been almost a year since I've played for longer than 10 minutes and I'm really enjoying this update. I actually think the random unlock system is good, but maybe that's because the only weapons I had unlocked before were the medic ones.
So what are the advantages of using the Dead Ringer over regular cloak? I know it has a faster recharge rate, but you can only use it when it's full. I guess it would be most useful for escaping when you are found out after backstabbing a couple of people. Problem is gettting behind them in the first place. I guess disguising as your own team, and then rushing at them with the Dead Ringer out would be the best way?
Razorback is fairly useless though. I tried it before I unlocked Jarate and Huntsman. It saved me a couple times, but every time a spy backstabbed me, they just cloaked afterwards and escaped. I thought it was meant to stun or something? The smart spies just shot me with the revolver/ambassador. About 3 shots and dead. Unless you're using the huntsman, it's unlikely you'll win.
I must be lucky. In about 12 hours of play with no idling, I've gotten a Dead Ringer, Cloak & Dagger, Razorback, Jarate, Sandvich and Huntsman, in that order.
So what are the advantages of using the Dead Ringer over regular cloak? I know it has a faster recharge rate, but you can only use it when it's full. I guess it would be most useful for escaping when you are found out after backstabbing a couple of people. Problem is gettting behind them in the first place. I guess disguising as your own team, and then rushing at them with the Dead Ringer out would be the best way?
Agreed. Sniper is my most played class and I'm loving it. It's awesome combined with Jarate. So satisfying when you get a headshot, especially from long range. It's deadly at short-medium range if you can aim. The first time I tried it out I managed to get 4 headshots within a minute or so.evlcookie said:
Razorback is fairly useless though. I tried it before I unlocked Jarate and Huntsman. It saved me a couple times, but every time a spy backstabbed me, they just cloaked afterwards and escaped. I thought it was meant to stun or something? The smart spies just shot me with the revolver/ambassador. About 3 shots and dead. Unless you're using the huntsman, it's unlikely you'll win.
I must be lucky. In about 12 hours of play with no idling, I've gotten a Dead Ringer, Cloak & Dagger, Razorback, Jarate, Sandvich and Huntsman, in that order.
Suburban Cowboy
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anyone have a server suggestion for idling? Wont I get kicked after a map change, or will i stay spectator
UnluckyKate
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i've played the game for 3 hours yesterday. I didn't unlock a thing. I'm a bit confused.