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[thetrin]

It makes Engie more viable on 5CP maps.
Team captures mid -> build on mid -> team captures 4th -> move gear to 4th.

Or, use it in regular defensive scenarios.
Sentry keeps killin' dudes -> enemies figure out how to attack it -> move it before their next strike -> confusion and chaos.

Only time it's not as useful is offensive Engie, where you're expecting your gear to get killed, but even then being able to push your dispenser forward with your team would be invaluable.

Didn't think about it that way. Great points.

 

[Rlan]

I'm more interested in Battle Engie tactics with the moving Sentry

Imagine if you will, a level which has a waiting period before it starts. Think Gravel Pit, where you could build up a sentry just beforehand, then sneak your way around to the backlines and let your sentry go full pelt.

My around-the-back-secret-teleport Badwater Basin strategy is going to be all the sweeter

 

[Proven]

Also, this is really clever, and I've never thought of it like that. Are there any other multiplayer games trying something similar for progression?

Monday Night Combat which is coming to XBLA in a month (and when it eventually comes out for PC I'm telling you all to buy it) has something similar to the Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends type games, where you try to push an offensive with weak bots while also defending against the opponents and their bots, but in this case it's a lot more similar to payload race than payload.

 

[Proven]

I'm more interested in Battle Engie tactics with the moving Sentry

Imagine if you will, a level which has a waiting period before it starts. Think Gravel Pit, where you could build up a sentry just beforehand, then sneak your way around to the backlines and let your sentry go full pelt.

My around-the-back-secret-teleport Badwater Basin strategy is going to be all the sweeter

I already have a number of semi-sneaky spots I like to put sentries up for one or two kills. CTF maps are great for this. I can't wait for the Frontier Justice as well...

 

[Rlan]

I already have a number of semi-sneaky spots I like to put sentries up for one or two kills. CTF maps are great for this. I can't wait for the Frontier Justice as well...

My favorite at the moment is a corner in Badwater Basin.

If you're on blue you can jump off of the top window and down into this little corner without much trouble. Have your sentry building out and drop and run back up the stairs. Most Reds won't notice it, and if you're lucky you'll avoid any opposing Engineers as well

This will be awesome with movable sentry

 

[Proven]

My favorite at the moment is a corner in Badwater Basin.

If you're on blue you can jump off of the top window and down into this little corner without much trouble. Have your sentry building out and drop and run back up the stairs. Most Reds won't notice it, and if you're lucky you'll avoid any opposing Engineers as well

This will be awesome with movable sentry

Ha, when I'm blue I usually stick a sentry on a balcony at the same time as, or at least right after an uber push. Since everyone, especially Pyros, end up running out to try and dance around the uber, it's a lot easier and safer than having to jump down until after I see one or two sentries destroyed.

 

[Hop]

Ha, when I'm blue I usually stick a sentry on a balcony at the same time as, or at least right after an uber push. Since everyone, especially Pyros, end up running out to try and dance around the uber, it's a lot easier and safer than having to jump down until after I see one or two sentries destroyed.

But now, if Red's got a Wrangled sentry, their Engie can be all "oh shit, Blu Engie!" and take you down personally.

 

[MNC]

But now, if Red's got a Wrangled sentry, their Engie can be all "oh shit, Blu Engie!" and take you down personally.

Ooooooh. This update's gonna be good. Playstyles are gonna CHANGE MANGS.


HIGH FIVE ME FOR ADRENALINE EVERYONE WOOO ENGINEER UPDATE TOMORROW

 

[Rickard]

Wait a minute, so, with the wrangler could a sentry potentially have infinite range?

 

[demosthenes]

My favorite at the moment is a corner in Badwater Basin.

http://www.gamerbytes.com/bwahaha.jpg[img]

If you're on blue you can jump off of the top window and down into this little corner without much trouble. Have your sentry building out and drop and run back up the stairs. Most Reds won't notice it, and if you're lucky you'll avoid any opposing Engineers as well :D

This will be awesome with movable sentry :D[/QUOTE]

My best engi strategy is to go into map room as blue, and build get to the elevated section (you can figure this out, it's not hard) and then plant a sentry at the top of the stairs looking almost into their spawn. Set up a teleporter and go to business. Whenever I get a lvl 3 up there and lvl 3 tele, we usually win the round in the next minute :lol

 

[Javaman]

I'm more interested in Battle Engie tactics with the moving Sentry

Imagine if you will, a level which has a waiting period before it starts. Think Gravel Pit, where you could build up a sentry just beforehand, then sneak your way around to the backlines and let your sentry go full pelt.

My around-the-back-secret-teleport Badwater Basin strategy is going to be all the sweeter

I wonder if they temper the added ability by making you lose your carried sentry if you die.

 

[demosthenes]

I wonder if they temper the added ability by making you lose your carried sentry if you die.

That would make sense to me.

 

[Blizzard]

I wonder if they temper the added ability by making you lose your carried sentry if you die.

I was thinking about that, and I wish that if anyone kills you, your carried sentry OPENS WHEN IT HITS THE GROUND, INSTANTLY SETTING UP AND DESTROYING THOSE WHO WOULD DARE TOUCH YOU. :lol

 

[Javaman]

My favorite at the moment is a corner in Badwater Basin.

If you're on blue you can jump off of the top window and down into this little corner without much trouble. Have your sentry building out and drop and run back up the stairs. Most Reds won't notice it, and if you're lucky you'll avoid any opposing Engineers as well

This will be awesome with movable sentry

By far my favorite is underneath the ledge on the back side of CP B on Gravelpit while you are on blue team. If the enemy doesn't catch you building, you can get it upgraded quickly thanks to the ammo box nearby and the ammo dropped by dead/surprised enemies.

Wait a minute, so, with the wrangler could a sentry potentially have infinite range?

Just like any shot projectile. How much travel time do sentry bullets have? It's always been hard to tell thanks to the delay in locking onto the person.

That would make sense to me.

That would certainly make sneaking around a lot more chancy since you have to take the time to rebuild each time you spawn. I guess it's a wash though since you would have to do that anyways close to enemy lines. At spawn it'll be quicker with the unlimited ammo.

I was thinking about that, and I wish that if anyone kills you, your carried sentry OPENS WHEN IT HITS THE GROUND, INSTANTLY SETTING UP AND DESTROYING THOSE WHO WOULD DARE TOUCH YOU. :lol

I need to get a script that'll turn any of corpses into a timebomb.

 

[Diablohead]

If you transport a level 3 sentry I would not be surprised if upon laying it down again it goes through an entire build-level2-level3 animation process, to help balance it out you know.

 

[MNC]

If you transport a level 3 sentry I would not be surprised if upon laying it down again it goes through an entire build-level2-level3 animation process, to help balance it out you know.

That would hardly make it a useful ability. If it's gonna be the an upgrade like the airblast, I think it'll only go through the animation once.

Also, I don't think dispensers/teleporters will be carryable.

 

[Twig]

lawl

you people making up crazy shit about carrying around level 3 sentries

 

[Javaman]

I wish the buildings were movable like in the PC Battlezone games. You just point to the ground where you want to to move and it packs up and floats/drives over there. In BZ there's a long vulnerable time where it's "planting" itself back into the ground where it's totally defenseless.

 

[Diablohead]

lawl

you people making up crazy shit about carrying around level 3 sentries

Well the photos we have seen so far show a level 2, it's always possible.

Are you scared little Twig?

 

[Rickard]

There's no way they're going to let you transport level 3s.

That + the wranglers fire rate buff would be bullshit.

 

[Javaman]

lawl

you people making up crazy shit about carrying around level 3 sentries

Word on the street is that the level 3 carries you around like a mechatechnospidercat.

Spoiler

With tentacles

 

[Sciz]

lawl

you people making up crazy shit about carrying around level 3 sentries

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

My best engi strategy is to go into map room as blue, and build get to the elevated section (you can figure this out, it's not hard) and then plant a sentry at the top of the stairs looking almost into their spawn. Set up a teleporter and go to business. Whenever I get a lvl 3 up there and lvl 3 tele, we usually win the round in the next minute :lol

I can't see that strat working on the servers I frequent. A decent spy will wreck that shit, plus there are a lot of snipers in that vicinity and SOMEONE is going to alert the rest of the team that something is set up there. Could also see people spamming in from the other side of the spawn door. Hell, even when I get into the map room, I'm already meeting resistance, or snipers from the far side, or people just jumping over to get at your team faster.

 

[Yasser]

There's no way they're going to let you transport level 3s.

That + the wranglers fire rate buff would be bullshit.

yeah letting you transport level 3 would be too much imo, you can build a l3 sentry pretty much right at the start so being able to then pick that up would be bullshit

 

[derFeef]

There's no way they're going to let you transport level 3s.

That + the wranglers fire rate buff would be bullshit.

Do you know how it would really work and how much time it would cost to pack your sentry? There is no way that this is instant like "click" sentry packed, "click" sentry built.

 

[chuckddd]

Any idea when this is going to go live? I know we at least have to wait for the last wrenches to go out.

 

[Javaman]

Any idea when this is going to go live? I know we at least have to wait for the last wrenches to go out.

IIRC they tend to come out in the evening, maybe around 7-9. It's likely going to take an hour or so for servers to get updated.

 

[Twig]

Well the photos we have seen so far show a level 2, it's always possible.

Are you scared little Twig?

What possible reason could I have for being scared of a bunch of people making things up?

 

[perryfarrell]

ONLY 5 WRENCHES LEFT, 95 was just found

 

[perryfarrell]

Aaand only 4 left.

Edit: this feels like loking at election results... Florida results are now in!

 

[Twig]

just make it stop already valve

geez

 

[The Technomancer]

I'm going to jump in now. Every damn update fills me with a compulsion to play a hella lot more TF2 then usual.

 

[Holepunch]

Wrench 95 was found by Huggernaut, His profile says he's a member of NeoGAF.

Anyone know him?

And congrats!

 

[perryfarrell]

he has 1400 hrs of playtime.

*applause*

 

[hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka]

he has 1400 hrs of playtime.

*applause*

90% of it idling I bet.

 

[Diablohead]

Time to get into the engie mood with a little music

 

[Hugbot]

Wrench 95 was found by Huggernaut, His profile says he's a member of NeoGAF.

Anyone know him?

And congrats!

Haha, I go by that name some places so I was wondering how the hell I found the wrench while I was at work. Not me, though.

 

[Javaman]

Wrench 95 was found by Huggernaut, His profile says he's a member of NeoGAF.

Anyone know him?

And congrats!

We MUST get him on the neogaf server!

 

[Metalic Sand]

Eng update is today right?


Edit: What is the Gaf server usually playing on? Gametype. Maybe ill join in sometime today.

 

[TP]

Eng update is today right?

Sure is, only 4 golden wrenches left then we get the update
but that could take hours

68.232.178.184:27015

 

[Diablohead]

I bet it will be 1am again in the UK since the last few days worth of updates have been then.

Are we sure that we will actually get a client update tonight? or just more info.

 

[TP]

From the blog

with all of this culminating in the long-awaited Engineer Update this Thursday!

 

[desu]

Btw, lol @ all the golden wrench "cheating". So much drama for some virtual item.

Anyway, looking forward to the update.

 

[Slayer-33]

What the fuck :lol is it real? Sorry I'm an old school tfc player just bought TF2 recently, what is this wrench shit craze happening right now?

 

[The Technomancer]

What the fuck :lol is it real? Sorry I'm an old school tfc player just bought TF2 recently, what is this wrench shit craze happening right now?

As a promo for the Engineer update Valve is giving out 100 gold wrenches randomly to people who have been crafting. The wrenches are identical to regular ones, except that when you kill someone with them they turn to a gold statue.

 

[MNC]

What the fuck :lol is it real? Sorry I'm an old school tfc player just bought TF2 recently, what is this wrench shit craze happening right now?

Class updates roll out every few months
Valve is giving golden wrenches out to 100 players this time
That is an image created in Garry's Mod, a sandbox game

 

[barnone]

:lol :lol :lol
I saw that I Have Big Balls (or something) found wrench 97 a few minutes ago. Now mercurial_ace has it. Wonder what happened..

 

[Boonoo]

Looks like they're going to be releasing cp_coldfront, a decent community made 5cp map.
The maker posted a check from valve. 3k for the map.
http://angryhosting.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/44/44915a2162b165fca9a4ec38d2d5f4d641aa2d44.jpg

 

[Blizzard]

Btw, lol @ all the golden wrench "cheating". So much drama for some virtual item.

Anyway, looking forward to the update.

I think someone on the server last night ("mhmm", one of the loudest people ever besides maybe Clown? :lol) said that 6 people have been VAC banned and lost their wrenches so far.

*edit*
Oh no, Boonoo gets his heart's desire, another 5-point push map. Plus, now I have to figure out...

...if even BOONOO says it's only "decent", then does that mean it's actually TRULY horrible?

...or if Boonoo says it's only "decent", does that mean it's actually great since Boonoo's map preferences are clearly upside down?

On the plus side, it sounds like it might be snow or mountain themed! On the downside, I don't know if they ever fixed their koth viaduct performance issues! I think I used to get 20-30 fps in the middle of that map.

 

[Boonoo]

I think someone on the server last night ("mhmm", one of the loudest people ever besides maybe Clown? :lol) said that 6 people have been VAC banned and lost their wrenches so far.

*edit*
Oh no, Boonoo gets his heart's desire, another 5-point push map. Plus, now I have to figure out...

...if even BOONOO says it's only "decent", then does that mean it's actually TRULY horrible?

...or if Boonoo says it's only "decent", does that mean it's actually great since Boonoo's map preferences are clearly upside down?

On the plus side, it sounds like it might be snow or mountain themed! On the downside, I don't know if they ever fixed their koth viaduct performance issues! I think I used to get 20-30 fps in the middle of that map.

Only the middle area is snow, the rest is inside. It's a fun enough map, though a little flat for my taste. I've only played it 3 or 4 times, though. I remember liking the mid fight, though.