I was expecting a big improvement in visuals, not a downgrade. Please don't tell me F5's resolution has been downed as well or something similar. Hopefully they sort it out before release. I still want to buy this when I eventually buy an Xbox One, but if it's a lacklustre effort I just won't bother. Already annoyed at the limited amount of info they've given, any downgrades would just be poor show.
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TGS Forza 5: Severe Visual Degradation? No, Uncalibrated TVs, No Geek Squad Available
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Colonel Nasty
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Huh? This looks exactly like the Gamescom vids.
Portugeezer
Member
The other videos looked fine.
It was you that was saying XBO games would look better at E3 than at launch, right?
Yep I watched everything you said come to the light.
I guess GDDR5 was too uncomfortable for them.
i HeaR MusiC
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The Forza footage from Major Nelsons event in Boston looked completely fine to me.
Phire Phox
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Meh, taken with a grain of salt. Just wait for the reviews and final build to pass judgment. Probably badly calibrated monitor.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
What did he say?
LowEndTorque
Member
Ice cold.
hmm.
Still cautiously optimistic.
But I get the impression that this news, along with the whole deal with releasing chunks of content that won't be on the disc via download, tells me that they polished the shit out of the couple of tracks they were showing before, and now are working on everything else and running out of time.
I just don't see how a game that was already running on hardware (it was running on hardware, right? That was confirmed?) would get downgraded. Doesn't make much sense.
Still cautiously optimistic.
But I get the impression that this news, along with the whole deal with releasing chunks of content that won't be on the disc via download, tells me that they polished the shit out of the couple of tracks they were showing before, and now are working on everything else and running out of time.
I just don't see how a game that was already running on hardware (it was running on hardware, right? That was confirmed?) would get downgraded. Doesn't make much sense.
Kind of funny to me how this is turning out. Months ago everyone was making fun of the PS4 exclusives for not looking so good despite the more powerful hardware, but they kept improving as months went on. The XB1 exclusives all seem to be getting downgrades of some kind as time goes on.
uncledonnie
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Haven't they been showing this off in Microsoft Stores on the actual hardware? I would think we would have heard about it.
Which track was shown there?
I also thought it looked amazing in that footage, so I don't see where this is coming from, unless like I said before the rest of the game is simply undercooked compared to what had previously been shown.
thehypocrite
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This got me. You could say it was written in the clouds.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
That's what MS 'said' yes, but a few people were sceptical, including me.
It looks so shiny and clean, even sterile at this point. Not sure if I like that. :-/
Reminds me a bit of how CoD looks to keep the framerate at 60.
Also, whoever thought that making the sun do the things it's doing in this game must either be blind, or played too much BF3 and thought to himself: "That's what missing from racing games! You can see where you are supposed to drive in them!"
Reminds me a bit of how CoD looks to keep the framerate at 60.
Also, whoever thought that making the sun do the things it's doing in this game must either be blind, or played too much BF3 and thought to himself: "That's what missing from racing games! You can see where you are supposed to drive in them!"
Damn, I don't get it. I'm missing context.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Damn, I don't get it. I'm missing context.
It's the new MS buzzword that replaced 'cloud power'.
Then why did the MS rep say, "we are aware of the problem." No one had the remotes to calibrate the TVs I guess.
My guess too.
TV's set with sharpness up too high, on dynamic mode or something. Worst case a drop in AA or resolution, but I'm doubting the latter. Usually things get better optimised late cycle, not the opposite. Having said that, I think Ryse's resolution drop has people a bit nervous about any further downgrades on other games.
Iacobellis
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Wasn't there supposed to be some big move being made right now? CBoaT hinted at something happening in September.
R3TRODYCE
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I agree.
Then why did the MS rep say, "we are aware of the problem." No one had the remotes to calibrate the TVs I guess.
"We're aware the TVs are shit" or something. That or one level is not as far along as the others. It's silly to suppose the game was downgrade since like two weeks ago with the highly boycottable PAX showing.
Damn, I don't get it. I'm missing context.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-the-xbox-one-architects
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
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Damn, I don't get it. I'm missing context.
The Xbox Defense Force has been trying to convince the mainstream gamer that Xbox One is at relative parity with PS4 in terms of performance because it is "balanced". It's double speak, marketing garbage that dances around math.
And for those of you doubting Turn 10's ability, don't. Turn 10 knows what they are doing. The game did not magically drop that severely in performance. Unless some disaster happened.
Ryse, however, is as expected downgrade from 1080p --> 900p.
Hah, yeah I guess. Seriously Sony and MS need to send TV calibration experts to all their expos from now on. The same problem happened with Driveclub at PAX.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Not surprised that sort of thing happening often.
Bad TV set ups can ruin demos. I hope when demo kiosks for PS4 and XBO go out the TVs are set up right because if not a lot of people won't be convinced to upgrade.
It certainly reads like it could be that. It could be people aren't reading the OP, but a drop to what seems like 720p is far less believable than poorly calibrated televisions.
Though I do believe in cboats incoming shit storm, I don't think this is it.
Wildstar75
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Hope this is not true. This was the standout launch window Xbox one game for me at e3. Played well with nice rumble trigger support, but the graphics were so sweet it became a must have title! If the game gets a big visual downgrade I may just cancel my xbox one preorder.
From personal friends at PAX, and Proelite-kun, Drive Club was looking like a mess with people asking if that game really is next-gen. The updated build Rushy has posted looks light years ahead.
gaming_noob
Member
Thanks for bringing that up. It's already Sept 22....
Thanks. And holy shit at 18 results for "balance" in that article.
Proelite
Member
The new direct feed Drive Club footage is miles better than what I saw of Drive Club at Pax.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I'm not sure if you are being very 'dry' or whether I'm imagining seeing the word 'balanced' everywhere
It also depends on whether MS had any influence on the DF article.
CassidyIzABeast
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There is the cult of MisterXMedia // Beyond 3D who believe this hocus pocus that Microsoft will unveil a second GPU inside the Xbox 1. They believe it is the explanation for the larger power draw of the machine.
recklesscognition
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The original Japanese source does appear at first glance to be a Forza fan. He seems generally disappointed and worried about what has happened since E3. He said the responsive triggers in the controller were a nice addition, but in addition to the monitor issues, he also expressed concern over a few other things, I think...
　
　
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