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[CREMSteve]

Video looks fine to me. /shrug

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

This is absolutely nothing. Configuration of TVs or something.

Yeah the news do report it's because "Failed TV Configuration"

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130922_616498.html

 

[ShapeGSX]

No it isn't, it is a descriptor made by one of the key engineers system for a euro gamer interview - an interview which, IMO, was pleasantly devoid of the usual empty phrases and smoke and mirrors, given by two people who actually seemed fairly earnest and down to earth. It is not PR speak, and it is fairly disingenuous to characterize it as such.

It's more of a NeoGAF buzzword.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

There is the cult of MisterXMedia // Beyond 3D who believe this hocus pocus that Microsoft will unveil a second GPU inside the Xbox 1. They believe it is the explanation for the larger power draw of the machine.

Xmedia, He is a loon that kid. People were giving him shit on twitter for not approving disagreeable comments on that amusing blog . He seems a bit pissy at NeoGaf yet his followers are worse than what he claims goes on here.

 

[chubigans]

The new direct feed Drive Club footage is miles better than what I saw of Drive Club at Pax.

Ah, well I stand corrected then.

 

[illmatic22]

I guess, Forza 5 needed to be balanced.

Haha

 

[StoopKid]

I guess, Forza 5 needed to be balanced.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

DOOOM....DOoOOOOOOOOM

 

[GribbleGrunger]

By all means, point it out. I first noticed it in reference to the euro gamer article in question.

Well ... I don't really want to get into a debate about a word, but I've seen it used on many sites including this one. Perhaps it's just the repetition on Gaf that made me believe it's the new buzz word. I could be subject to the hive mind! I'll recalibrate my thoughts for now though

 

[jet1911]

Worse than I expected. Hope it's just a bad video.

You'll need to point the downgrade man...

 

[IAmRandom31]

I guess, Forza 5 needed to be balanced.

 

[Red Chocobo]

Could this be why T10 seem so reluctant to show us anything new?

 

[TheTrueLegend]

Get ready for the console warriors.

Spoiler

Oh wait, too late.

 

[ref]

Huh? This looks exactly like the Gamescom vids.

This, the Gamescom vids by Gamersyde look exactly the same as this footage.

I certainly don't see a 'severe' downgrade in visuals from that video though as the title suggests.

 

[thunder_snail]

By all means, point it out. I first noticed it in reference to the euro gamer article in question. Granted, I tend to gravitate more toward the PlayStation 4 side of things, but this whole "balance" issue seems much less prolific than the "power of the cloud" nonsense.

Hardware is only balanced as the software running on it. One engine can be bottlenecked by the CPU, while some another engine specialized for a different type of game can be bottle necked by the number of available CUs. That's why a hardware being balanced doesn't make much sense imho.

 

[ypo]

The rearview mirror is all kinds of horrible. Yikes!

 

[BruiserBear]

I have a hard time believing this story.

 

[Mugatu]

Hard to tell from Youtube but it doesn't look that bad as far as I can tell.

What I don't like is how arcadey the steering looks, like he car is just sliding around - again tough to tell.

It's Forza though so I doubt it will look anything other than great and drive fairly well.

 

[VanquishUK]

Is it me or is her arm freakishly long?

 

[Jack_AG]

I can't say shit about an off-screen capture. But IF true....

...


....

#teamCBOAT

 

[flipswitch]

Video looks fine to me. /shrug

Yeah, looked the same to me too.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Is it me or is her arm freakishly long?

Nope, her torso is freakishly narrow

 

[abadguy]

Looks exactly the same...

 

[JaggedSac]

No it isn't, it is a descriptor made by one of the key engineers system for a euro gamer interview - an interview which, IMO, was pleasantly devoid of the usual empty phrases and smoke and mirrors, given by two people who actually seemed fairly earnest and down to earth. It is not PR speak, and it is fairly disingenuous to characterize it as such.

Yep.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Yeah, looked the same to me too.

triple agree... don't see a problem but heck I'm a noob when it comes to this

 

[Angelus Errare]

Sounds like a non issue to be honest, but I expect this thread to be at least 15 pages (100ppg) by tomorrow.

 

[srd4484]

lol. This is silly. I can do this too. Check out this video from the other day. Forza gameplay is near the end of the video. Looks amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sew2I-TOVoQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[Stoffinator]

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

I'm surprised from the comments on that video. Well ok, not fully, it is Youtube after all. But to me the game looks like a 360 game with some flare. Like the windshield reflection for example looks good.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

lol. This is silly. I can do this too. Check out this video from the other day. Forza gameplay is near the end of the video. Looks amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sew2I-TOVoQ&feature=youtu.be

Doesn't that just verify what the writer of the Japanese article is saying?

 

[Tsundere]

I wonder if Microsoft won't allow outlets to talk about the games final builds until launch.

 

[GameSeeker]

Sounds like a non issue to be honest, but I expect this thread to be at least 15 pages (100ppg) by tomorrow.

Hopefully that won't happen. The Turn 10 folks post on NeoGAF semi-regularly. They just need to post that Forza 5 is still 1080p at 60fps and no downgrades to visual effects (AA, reflections, etc.) have taken place. One post from Turn 10 and the rest of this thread can be avoided.

Shutting down incorrect rumors is a good use of PR.

 

[Insane Metal]

The rearview mirror is all kinds of horrible. Yikes!

 

[Hurf]

I don't see any reason to believe that Forza 5 won't be running at true 1080p upon release. Despite the issues it may have in contrast to the PS4, Xbone still a huge leap up over the PS360 consoles and Forza 5's assets are all pretty simplistic and running in an engine that's embarrassed by the lighting in GT6, a PS3 game; Forza 5 is not exactly pushing Killzone or BF4 quality visuals, there's no reason to assume it's too demanding for the hardware.

The TVs it was running on were probably just calibrated horribly by staff rushing to get everything set up.

 

[RaijinFY]

I'm surprised from the comments on that video. Well ok, not fully, it is Youtube after all. But to me the game looks like a 360 game with some flare. Like the windshield reflection for example looks good.

You say it looks like a 360 game because of what?

 

[Joemoe]

Has direct feed ever been shown after E3?

 

[badb0y]

Need some direct feed footage before I can make a judgement.

 

[AgentP]

Looks the same to me, but it always looked like FM4 @ 1080P, they are just at diminishing returns until they push their engine to do more.

 

[frizby]

Certain studios should get the benefit of the doubt. I'd imagine Turn 10 would on that list.

And that's coming from someone who isn't a big fan of MS FWIW.

 

[Jabba]

Personally I think it's Laguna. That place looks like shit no matter whom does it.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

When I have it in november we will see whos lying

 

[Seanspeed]

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

Yea, looks the same as before from what I can tell, which isn't much with that quality of video. But of course its an Xbox One game, so lots of people will eye it with an extra layer of grease over their eyes because that's what they want/expect to see.

And I don't care how realistic that glare is, its annoying as fuck.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Wow, MS upclocks CPU and gpu and the result is games must be downgraded. Forza was running on the actual box even at e3.

Yep, apparently we're suppose to see something this coming week at the Eurogamer thing, so we'll hopefully know more then. Does seem odd, but I had a very odd feeling with how little we've seen

 

[thunder_snail]

When I have it in november we will see whos lying

Lying is a strong word. Default settings on a TV is not 1-to-1 mapping but compensating for overscan and sharpening the hell out of the image. That can make normal TV streams look sharper but make aliasing a lot worse in games.

 

[RaijinFY]

Laguna Seca, not matter what will always look like shit.

 

[Tagg9]

Eh, it looks fine to me. The buildings could maybe use some more detail, but on the whole it's not so bad. I'm sure DriveClub will look spotty in parts as well.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

What is that weird change in color at around 1:21-1:23?

 

[phosphor112]

IIRC both CBOAT and Thuway said this would happen.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

What is that weird change in color at around 1:21-1:23?

Someone taking photos?

 

[Pharaoh 117]

T10 got the short end of the stick having to deliver a title like Forza at launch. Having to make a game with updated assets and still try to match the previous title numbers is a tall order.

MS always makes the dumbest decisions. Launch would be the perfect time to bring Project Gotham Racing back.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Lying is a strong word. Default settings on a TV is not 1-to-1 mapping but compensating for overscan and sharpening the hell out of the image. That can make normal TV streams look sharper but make aliasing a lot worse in games.

Well if everyone takes it for fact, I should be able to say lying